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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 03/28/1994 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION MONDAY,March 28,1994 7:00 p.m. City Center Council Chamber 8080 Mitchell COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote, Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Lisa-Marie Gualtieri STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Community Development; Michael D.Franzen, Senior Planner;Donald Uram,Planner L PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE--ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chair Doug Sandstad. All members were present. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Wissner, to approve the Agenda as published. Motion carried 7-0-0. IIL MINUTES MOTION: Schlampp moved, seconded by Bauer, to approve the Minutes of the March 14, 1994, meeting as published. Motion carried 6-0-1 with Foote abstaining. IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS The Commission began with Item B because the proponent for Item A was delayed. B. FRASER HOMES by Community Home Program. Request for Zoning Change from Rural to RM-6.5 on 1.7 acres and Preliminary Plat of 4.3 acres into 3 lots. Location: Pioneer Trail. Franzen said this proposal for six one-story twin home units will require a variance for a floor area ratio in excess of .20 for one-story buildings. The twinhomes could be made two-story and meet City Code,but the cost of housing would go up because of a need for an elevator. Bernie Vrona, representing Community Home Program, said this is a non-profit organization that is working to develop housing for disabled individuals in the metropolitan area. PLANNING COMMISSION 2 March 28, 1994 Wissner asked whether the residents will live in the units temporarily or permanently. Vrona said some will be there temporarily and others will be long term. Kardell asked how many will live in one side of each unit. Vrona said there are five bedrooms on each side, with one bedroom for the caregiver and one resident in each of the other four bedrooms. Bob Ready, project architect, said this will be a prototype for similar units throughout Hennepin County. He said they are designed to fit in with the surrounding housing. He said they will dedicate the driveway and utility system as a drainage easement and will tie into the existing sanitary sewer on Grey Widgeon. Sandstad asked if any of the residents will drive their own vehicles. Vrona said it would be rare for one of the individuals to have access to a vehicle. Sandstad then asked if the parking will be sufficient. Vrona replied that there will be eight parking spaces for each building. Sandstad asked why they are platting. Ready said the bond underwriters recommended that they subdivide the property into individual lots. Schlampp said he was concerned that Metro Mobility vans are higher than the garage door opening which could result in there being no shelter for people going in and out of vehicles. • Vrona replied that they are contracting with a different mobility company for their clients that are on medical assistance and most of their vans are 76". Schlampp then asked if the street could go through to County Road 1 and if emergency vehicles would be able to get in and out as it is proposed. Ready said the vertical grade between County Road 1 and the site would make this difficult, so the Engineering Dept. recommended having the access off Pioneer Trail. Ready noted there is a turnaround for emergency vehicles at the end of the drive. Franzen said Staff recommends approval per the Staff Memorandum of March 25, 1994, noting that two variances will be required--one for the floor area ratio greater than .20 for a one-story building and the other for a lot size less than ten acres in a Rural District. Sandstad asked if the triangular piece of property to the east is unbuildable. Franzen said it has a steep slope and it is privately owned. Doug Hayden, 9563 Grey Widgeon Place, said his street is a small cul-de-sac with 30 children and he was concerned about their safety. Vrona said the residents in the facility will be physically injured individuals who are coming out of the hospital and who need a place such as this during their recovery time. Chuck Schaitberger, 18014 Valley View Road, said his mother lives to the west of this project. He was concerned that her septic system drain field near the property line might be adversely affected by excavation for this project. He also was concerned about the depth of ,. • � � �1 • . .� � _ - _ � r • , � + _ � � � 7 t � � �, e I � - ' PLANNING CONHOSSION 3 March 28,1994 the sewer and water lines from this property in case his mother should want to hook up to those lines. Franzen said the developer is required to extend the utilities to the next adjacent property. Sandstad asked if the project will be fenced to limit excavation. Franzen said a silt fence will be required around the entire perimeter of the project, and the surveyors will locate the outside limits of the drain.field. Walter Kotch, 9594 Grey Widgeon Place, said he is concerned about children's safety because of the increased traffic and also about the possible adverse effect on his property value. Vrona said the homes are of high quality construction, are well landscaped and are designed to fit into the neighborhood. He also noted that there will be limited vehicle traffic in and out of the project. Sandstad asked if there is a sidewalk on the north side of Pioneer Trail. Kotch said there is. Sandstad asked if they had considered access on County Road 1. Franzen said the County said there would not be access permitted to County Road 1 because of the slope. Joe Klonne, 9600 Creek Knoll Road, said he was particularly concerned about public safety because there are no signal lights at the intersection of County Road 1 and Pioneer Trail and there is a lot of traffic on County Road 1 during rush hour. • Bauer said he supports the project; however,he thought the issue about the height proposed for the garage doors should be investigated before the project is brought before the Council. Kardell,Wissner and Schlampp were also concerned about the height of the garage door. Kardell said she thought the project provides the type of housing for which there is a serious need in many communities including Eden Prairie. Foote said he was concerned about the possibility of increased levels of traffic on Pioneer Trail. Schlampp said he was concerned about access onto County Road 1. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to close the public hearing. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Community Home Program for Zoning Change from Rural to RM-6.5 on 1.7 acres based on plans dated March 25, 1994, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated March 25, 1994. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Community Home Program for Preliminary Plat on 4.3 acres based on plans dated March 25, 1994, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated March 25, 1994. Motion carried 7-0-0. PLANNING COMMISSION 4 March 28,1994 (Continued from March 14, 1994 Meeting) A. PIONEER RIDGE by R. H. Development, Inc. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 6.9 acres and Preliminary Plat on 6.9 acres for 17 single family lots. Location: Mitchell Road and Pioneer Trail. John Helmer, representing proponent, said they have revised the plans to eliminate the connection to Corral Lane, thereby allowing them to add one additional lot to the 16 lots originally proposed. Franzen said Staff recommends approval of the request, per the recommendations of the Staff Report dated March 25, 1994. .Al Krause, 15911 Cedar Ridge Road, asked if the lot sizes are large enough for the R1-13.5 zoning since the project has grown from 13 lots to 16 and now is at 17. He said he has 3/4 acre or larger lots in his development. Franzen said all the lots meet the minimum lot size, and the project density is 2.45 units per acre which is below the 2.5 limit. Bob Waldron, 15700 Corral Lane, asked how the McGraw property will be developed. Helmer said they have included a concept for development of that property; however the property has not been sold. Tom Schroer, 15820 Corral Lane, said he has concerns about development of the sites adjacent to this one. Franzen replied that they have seen a plan for the Centex development to the west which includes single family homes and some town homes. Bauer said he is not enthusiastic about the long cul-de-sac and would like to discuss the issue of cul-de-sacs at an upcoming Commission meeting. MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Bauer, to close the public hearing. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Bauer, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of R. H. Development,Inc. for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 6.9 acres based on plans dated March 25, 1994, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated March 25, 1994. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Bauer, to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of R. Ii Development, Inc. for Preliminary Plat on 6.9 acres for 17 single family lots based on plans dated March 25, 1994,and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated March 25, 1994. Motion carried 7-0-0. V. MEMBERS' REPORTS • Sandstad commended the Commissioners on their attendance at the Joint City Council, Human Rights & Services, and Planning Commission meeting. A discussion followed regarding the possibility of adjusting engineering standards in order to promote development of more affordable 1 r '.� '_ ;,. .� ,t a .,� � � ._ �. . — , . .. ..' ' " .. �. � � _� � - r, • � � � - ". � PLANNING COMMISSION 5 March 28,1994 housing. The consensus was that the Commission should not wait for the larger group to form before identifying costs and concerns involved in the affordable housing issue. Schlampp said he thought the property involved would have to be owned by the City in order to make this work. Lindahl said we currently have a program where first-time buyers are helped with a 2nd mortgage which is a deferred loan with low or no interest that is repaid when the property is sold. Foote said he thought it was important to differentiate between affordable or entry-level housing and low-income housing. Kardell noted that we do not provide a continuum of housing in the community. Lmdahl said he recommended having the Engineering Staff draft a memo regarding the engineering standards involved. VL CONTINUING BUSINESS VH. NEW BUSINESS A. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Sandstad thanked the Commission and Staff for their help during his tenure as Chair and noted that he had agreed to serve only one year as Chair of the Commission. MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Wissner, to nominate Kardell as Chair. Motion • carried 740-0. MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Clinton, to close the nominations and cast a unanimous ballot for Kardell as Chair. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Kardell, to nominate Bauer as Vice Chair. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Kardell, to close the nominations and cast a unanimous ballot for Bauer as Vice Chair. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to nominate Clinton as Recorder. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to close the nominations and cast a unanimous ballot for Clinton as Recorder. Motion carried 7-0-0. B. MANAGEMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS Bauer said he agreed with the recommendations in the Staff Memo of March 24th regarding the management of Planning Commission meetings and said he thought they should be reviewed with the audience at the start of each Commission meeting. He said he thought the developer should be informed that they can assume Commissioners have read the material and have made a site visit. He also noted that we should explain the purpose of the blue . . r � . . . : ._ ,: .. � _. . . .. _ . r� . . . _ .. t.� . { • ' • � � � s I• � � PLANNING CON0IISSION 6 March 28,1994 slips. Sandstad said he thought we should post a sign regarding signing up in order to speak at the public hearing. Bauer said he thought the role of the Planning Commission should be explained and those who attend the public hearing should be told that they will have another chance to express their concerns at the City Council meeting. Kardell thought Staff should make a list incorporating Staff and Commission recommendations as discussed and distribute it before the next meeting. Clinton said he thought the Agenda should be posted outside of the meeting room, and there should be a table with the procedures and other materials available outside the room. VIM PLANNERS' REPORTS IX. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Clinton moved, seconded by Wissner, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 7-0-0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, March 28, 1994 7:00 p.m. COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote, Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Lisa-Marie Gualtieri STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Community Development; Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Donald Uram, Planner I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE --ROLL CALL IL APPROVAL OF AGENDA M. MINUTES W. PUBLIC HEARINGS 7:30 Continued from March 14, 1994 Meeting: A. PIONEER RIDGE by R. H. Development, Inc. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 6.9 acres and Preliminary Plat on 6.9 acres for 17 single family lots. Location: Mitchell Road and Pioneer Trail. B. FRASER HOMES by Community Home Program. Request for Zoning Change from Rural to RM-6.5 on 1.7 acres and Preliminary Plat of 4.3 acres into 3 lots. Location: Pioneer Trail. V. MEMBERS' REPORTS VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS VII. NEW BUSINESS A. ELECTION OF OFFICERS B. MANAGEMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS IX. ADJOURNMENT