HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 05/22/1995 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
May 22, 1995
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy
Foote, Ismail Ismail, Katherine Kardell,
Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Matthew Mahoney
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner
Scott Kipp, Planner
Jan Schneider, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chair Katherine Kardell.
Absent were Tim Bauer, Kenneth Clinton and Ismail Ismail; all other members
present.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
• MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Schlampp, to approve the Agenda as
published. Motion carried 4-0.
III. MINIITES
Due to lack of a quorum, the minutes from the April 24, 1995 meeting will be
resubmitted for approval at the June 12, 1995 meeting.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PAFKO 2ND ADDITION by Roger and Addie Halverson. Requesting for
Rezoning from R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 4.19 acres and Preliminary Plat of 4.19
acres into 8 single family lots and one outlot. Location: Kurtz Lane and
northwest of Twin Cities and Western Railroad.
Scott Kipp introduced Dick Schutrop and Denny Griswold, representatives of
the owner's of the property, Roger and Addie Halverson.
Denny Griswold, landscape architect, reviewed the Pafko project with the
Planning Commission. The existing zoning is R1-22 and the request is for R1-
13.5. The proposal is to subdivide the 4.19 acres into 1 outlot and 8 single
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family lots. Lot 3 consists of the Halverson property. Sanitary sewer access
• would be from Park Terrace Drive through the publicly owned land up to this
subdivision. All other sanitary sewer connection alternatives have been
reviewed, but determined unavailable due to the depth.
The proposal is to dedicate to the City, Outlot A, and an existing wetland.
The staff suggested that existing Lot 2, Block 2 of Pafko Addition, which is all
wetland, also be dedicated to the City. The proponents are willing to do this.
A Neighborhood Meeting was held on May 2, 1995. The concerns raised at
that meeting have been addressed in the plans, including a conservation buffer
along the north side of the property, evaluation of all utility alignments, and
preservation of an existing 30" Oak on private property.
Kipp indicated that the average lot size is 17,800 sq. ft. with a density of 1.9
units per acre, and is a good transitional area from the multi-family to the
south adjacent to the railroad tracks and 13.5 zoning to the northwest and R1-
22 to the north.
Proposed Lots 6 and 7 will require a variance from the Board of Appeals for
lot depth to the railroad tracks. Code requires average lot depth of 150 feet.
Kipp stated there is merit for a variance. Kipp stated that the proposal is to
construct a cul-de-sac and to vacate the remaining right-of-way. This proposal
• would eliminate any future crossing of the railroad track with a city street.
The Engineering Department endorses a cul-de-sac to remove any liability
issue of a street crossing a railroad track.
Mr. Anderson, who is a property owner to the southwest end of Kurtz Lane
uses Kurtz Lane as one of his access points to his property. Due to the
liability and cost of maintaining a crossing at the railroad, he has agreed to
terminate this access and a new address will be assigned to him.
The cul-de-sac length will be approximately 940 feet. City code's maximum
cul-de-sac length is 500 feet, however, this is not a zoning code, it is a
subdivision code and will require a waiver from the City Council for cul-de-
sac length.
The site is heavily wooded with 27% of tree loss proposed. The proponent
will retain a 50 foot buffer along the north property line in a Conservation
Easement to protect those existing trees. The plan does show some wetland
encroachment and it is being replaced on the south wetland area at a 2:1 ratio
in conformance with the State Wetland's Act. A small section of roadway will
be 24' in width, instead of the standard 28'. This will minimize wetland
encroachment.
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Foote asked how the 150 feet setback from a railroad is established. Kipp
replied it is a City code and is not a railroad company requirement. Foote
questioned who's responsibility it is if a derailment happened. Kipp said he
did not know, but that granting the variance for lot depth doesn't restrict the
placement of a house beyond structure setbacks.
Wissner noted the homes on Hallmark appear to be closer than 150 feet from
the railroad tracks. Kipp replied that the houses which have a sideyard toward
the railroad track are not 150 feet away and the code does not regulate this.
Kardell was concerned about the watershed which contributed to the drainage
in the area. Kipp replied the Engineering Department reviewed the 15 acre
watershed for the existing ponds, noting that 3.5 acres of this proposal drains
to these wetlands and indicated that the added runoff will minimally affect the
functioning of the wetland. The Conservation Easement will also maintain a
the natural drainage pattern.
Don Dahlstrom of 15633 Park Terrace Drive, was concerned about the
addition of utilities and how much it will affect the trees. Griswold explained
the north half of the sewer alignment would be altered with minimal impact.
The south half would affect some existing trees, but would be kept to a
minimum. Dahlstrom asked about restoration. Griswold explained the front
will be sodded, with the back portion placed in seed meeting existing
• conditions. Dahlstrom stated he was concerned with the additional grading on
the adjacent development, since his lot is the lowest lot adjacent to the wetland
area and questioned whether there will be any change in runoff expected.
Kipp stated he didn't feel it would be a problem, but would voice the concern
to the Engineering Department.
Tom Snicker of 15561 Park Terrace Drive, was concerned with the water
drainage from the cul-de-sac and where the excess water would run from the
pond. Kipp replied that the NURP pond would collect the street run-off and
would not effect the existing drainage pattern in the area.
Brian Rosengren of 6544 Kurtz Lane, questioned the drainage and water level
on the north side of Kurtz Lane. He feels this is a holding area for runoff and
with the wetland encroachment proposed,�the area's capacity will be reduced.
He asked if a culvert could be added. Kipp stated that during the final design,
they are looking to shift the road further to the south so the road grade could
be lowered. Kipp said it may also be possible to provide a culvert between the
ponds. This would be looked at during final design.
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Randall Breedenbura of 6520 Kurtz Lane, is concerned about depth of sewer
and water. Griswold stated it will be 8 feet for sewer and 7 feet for water.
Breedenburg stated he would also like to see a minimal loss of trees. Another
concern is the extra traffic added to Kurtz Lane, which has no street lights or
curb and gutter.
Sue En eg brit of 6558 Kurtz Lane, is concerned about the encroachment onto
her property. Kipp explained where the proposed encroachment was and that
it would most likely be reduced during the final road design. Another concern
was the increase in traffic with many children in the area.
Sue Bennett of 6731 Hallmark Drive asked about walking paths next to the
tracks. Kipp stated there are no City approved walking paths. She asked that
the project preserve as much nature as possible.
Wissner asked about the absence of street lights. Kipp stated it was not a
requirement when the existing development was originated. Kipp stated that
the neighborhood could request that the City evaluate the need for street
lighting. If installed, it would involve assessments. Wissner also was
concerned about the "T" intersection and the amount and speed of traffic.
Kipp said final design plans are yet to be made.
Foote asked if streetlights are going to be added to the new development.
• Kipp replied yes. Foote encouraged the residents to bring their concerns to
the City Council. Kardell also encouraged this action. Foote stated that seven
houses doesn't bring about a major traffic increase. Kardell concurred.
Foote asked about the train's whistle and it was noted that the whistle blows at
Birch Island Road and continues to blow to alert the deer.
Schlampp asked about the railroad right-of-way and where does the runoff
from the drainage ditches go. Kipp stated that a portion of this runoff drains
into the existing pond.
MOTION 1: Wissner moved, seconded by Foote, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 4-0.
MOTION 2: Wissner moved, seconded by Foote, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Roger and Addie Halverson for Rezoning
fr*b'm R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 4.19 acres based on plans dated May 12, 1995, and
subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 19, 1995.
Motion carried 4-0.
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MOTION 3: Wissner moved, seconded by Foote to recommend to the City
• Council approval of the request of Roger and Addie Halverson for Preliminary
Plat of 4.19 acres based on plans dated May 12, 1995, and subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 19, 1995. Motion carried 4-
0.
B. DATA METALCRAFT by Data Metalcraft. Request for Rezoning from I-
General to I-2 Park and Site Plan Review on 3 acres. Location: 7875 Fuller
Road.
This project was not reviewed because the proponent formally withdrew his
project on May 19, 1995.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
a. Housing, Transportation and Social Services Board. Wissner stated the
Hope Program is moving forward and a bus tour for affordable housing
sites was recently taken.
b. Tree Committee. Foote stated the last meeting focused on bonding
amounts, saving non-significant trees and lowering the tree size to 9
inches. He added that the committee should be done in one or two
more meetings.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
None.
VH. NEW BUSINESS
Mike Franzen discussed the housing plan for Pioneer Ridge 2nd Addition.
Wissner stated she would like to see creativity put into the plan before it is
presented to the public. Kardell stated the site's location was ideal. Franzen
asked the Commissioner's to review the plan and give him any comments.
The plan will also be distributed to the City Council. The developer would
like direction before formal application is submitted.
Foote mentioned the Brentwood Development's homes have went up in price
since the plan went through the Planning Commission. He stated they are now
selling for approximately $425,000, when they were proposed to sell in the
range of$250,000. Franzen replied that developers start out with their
minimum value. It increases due to demand. The City does not regulate
housing value.
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VHL PLANNERS' REPORTS
0 a. Review of Residential Monument Signs
Wissner moved, seconded by Schlampp, that there will be no change to
the current Residential Monument Sign code. Motion carried 4-0.
b. Franzen noted it will be a full agenda for the next meeting with five
projects to be reviewed.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Wissner, to adjourn the meeting.
Motion carried 4-0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 P.M.
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, May 22, 1995
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote,
Ismail Ismail, Katherine Kardell, Edward
Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner
Scott A. Kipp, Planner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Matthew Mahoney
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE -- ROLL CALL
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
M. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARING
A. PAFKO 2ND ADDITION by Roger and Addie Halverson. Requesting for
rezoning from R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 4.19 acres and Preliminary Plat of 4.19 acres
into 8 single family lots and one outlot. Location: Kurtz Lane and northwest of
Twin Cities and Western Railroad.
B. DATA METALCRAFT by Data Metalcraft. Request for Rezoning from I-
General to I-2 Park and Site Plan Review on 3 acres. Location: 7875 Fuller
Road.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
a. Review of Residential Monument Signs
IX. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
June 12, 1995
COMIVIISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth C. Clinton, Randy
Foote, Ismail Ismail, Katherine Kardell,
Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner; Scott
Kipp, Planner;
Elinda Bahley, Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by acting Vice-Chair Ken Clinton.
Absent were Tim Bauer and Katherine Kardell; all other members were present.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to approve the Agenda as
published. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MINUTES
MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to approve the Minutes of April 24,
1995 as amended: page 4, first paragraph, second sentence should read: He is
concerned that office space was approved without a specific use or tenant. Motion
carried 5-0-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to approve the Minutes of May 22,
1995 as published. Motion carried 4-0-1 with one abstention by Clinton.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. KNOB HILL ESTATES by Knob Hill Homes. Request for Zoning District Change
from Rural to R1-13.5 on 7.0 acres and Preliminary Plat of 7.0 acres into 16 lots.
Location: Sunnybrook Road.
Joel Cooper, of James R. Hill and Associates, reviewed the Knob Hills Estate project
with the Planning Commission. The proposal is for the subdivision of 7 acres of land
into 16 single family lots, with a gross density of 2.29 units per acre.
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Due to existing topography on these 2 remnant parcels, the tree loss is higher than the
average tree loss of most residential developments. The Staff Report notes a 73%
tree loss, but he believed tree loss is 66%.
There are 3 lots that they are requesting variances for, Lots 13, 14, and 16. The
reason is to create an outlot for the NURP pond.
Franzen noted that Staff looked at this project to see if they could fit 16 lots on the
property, and still keep the tree loss to the average for a residential subdivision,
which is 30%. Staff looked at different ways of placing the houses on the property.
It became apparent to Staff that there wasn't enough land to relocate houses to, that
would help significantly reducing tree loss.
Staff suggested removing a couple of lots to bring the density down comparable to
other subdivisions in wooded areas with the hope that tree loss would also be reduced.
Staff suggested the second alternative in the Staff Report.
Ismail was concerned with the discrepancy in the tree loss calculations. Franzen
noted that Staff calculations includes the trees physically lost due to construction, and
the trees with potential to be lost to construction damage. He also noted that the
Developer's calculations do not include trees damaged by construction.
Schlampp asked what the cul-de-sac is for. Franzen replied that the purpose of
having the cul-de-sac is to make sure Lots 5, 6 and 7 meet the required 50 foot street
frontage.
Foote noted that reference was made in the Staff Report that shifting the road would
reduce tree loss. He was concerned about which way to shift it. Franzen noted that
the road would be moved further to the west.
Lee Smith,'residing at 12500 Sunnybrook Road, noted the dead end road is in her
backyard. She commented that she is in favor of this development, but is opposed to
the design of it. She expressed concern about having to look at barricades in her
backyard. She noted that there are 28 cul-de-sacs in Eden Prairie, and would like this
road to be a cul-de-sac.
Curtis Connaughty, residing at 11860 Sunnybrook Road, noted that he supports
Lee Smith, and the plan should be changed. He expressed concern about the number
of lots, noting that he sees no reason why there can't be a design to fit this property.
Bill Knoblauch, developer, noted that it is imperative that this project be approved for
16 lots. It's not financially feasible to make money on 14 lots with what he is paying
for the property.
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Foote questioned the price of the homes. Knoblauch replied on the low end of 250's
to the high end of 350's.
Wissner noted that she is not comfortable with the number of homes on the property,
and that the density is too high for a wooded area. She agrees with Staff's
recommendation of removing at least 2 lots, and feels strongly that it's an option that
must be taken.
Franzen commented that a cul-de-sac may help the developer with higher value lots,
reduce the street costs, and reduce his tree replacement. He noted that it may be
worth while to consider another plan if the developer is willing.
Knoblauch noted that unless he has 16 lots, the development will not work for him.
Ismail responded that he was disappointed with unwillingness of the developer to
consider other plans.
Schlampp noted the road could be configurated with a cul-de-sac with a substantial
savings of the trees.
MOTION: Schlampp moved, seconded by Ismail, to continue the proposal for 2
weeks with direction for a revised plan with a new road plan, two less lots and less
tree loss. Motion carried 5-0-0.
B. FOREST HILLS 8TH ADDITION by Taurus Properties. Request for rezoning
from R1-22 to R1-13.5 on 9.1 acres and Preliminary Plat of 9.1 acres into 20 lots.
Location: West of Baker Road south of Theresa Place.
Franzen noted that Staff has looked at this project for quite a long time. A
neighborhood meeting was held in the Council Chambers on May 4th. Lot size and
road connection issues were raised by the neighborhood. Staff and the developer
decided to come to the Planning Commission with a concept plan first before
preparing construction drawings to get direction on road connections and lot sizes.
The Staff Report identifies two questions. What should the lots sizes and the density
be, and should Forest Hills road connect to Baker Road.
Duane Dietrichs, representing Taurus Properties, reviewed his project with the
Planning Commission. He noted that they have acquired the northerly 4 parcels from
three different property owners.
He initially began with a plan for 23 lots, but after speaking with Staff and the
Engineering Department, the number of lots was reduced to 21. The new access to
Baker Road was in the same spot that the neighborhood group suggested.
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Franzen reviewed the Staff Report with the Planning Commission. He noted that
there are 6 different possible ways of looking at the road connections to go through to
Baker Road. One option is to connect to Theresa Place. Staff suggests either option
one or three. He suggested the commission first consider the reasons for road
connections, then if these reasons apply in this situation and then to choose a road
alignment. The lot sizes proposed are not the smallest or the largest as compared to
the surrounding area, but staff believes that the transition is reasonable.
Larry Simon, noted that he resides on the cul-de-sac. He expressed concern about
the elimination of the cul-de-sac. He said that that's what brought him and his wife
out to Eden Prairie. He feels that someone asking to have bigger lots for transition is
not out of line. He noted that there is a traffic problem out there. There is a health
club nearby, and everyone who takes their children to school would love to use that
access as a short cut.
Tracy and Chuck Keibler, residing at 6995 Mariann Drive, noted that the plan is
much better than it was the last time they saw it. In terms of transition, they feel
people get caught up in the R1-22 and the R1-13.5. They expressed concern that the
3 lots that need the variances will be quite small given the average size of the lots
nearby.
Joann and Tom Meyer residing at 13695 Theresa Place, noted that they have the
abutting lot on the north side of the proposed addition. They expressed concern about
• the lots being small compared to the large lots in the neighborhood. They are very
concerned about the density issue. They would like to see only 14 or 16 homes.
They are concerned about the raw area and are still unclear about what's proposed for
the pond. They are concerned about the pond because they have flooding in that
area. They are in agreement with the road with Theresa Place as a cul-de-sac.
Franzen commented that when the developer first brought a plan in, they had a plan
that showed how big the pond was going to be. It was a sized according to how
much water was supposed to be in the area. Since the revised plan is a concept, the
drainage plan is not complete yet so staff does not know whether or not this area is
really large enough for a pond. Staff wants to make sure the pond area is large
enough so the water does not go beyond its current level on the property to the north.
Joann Meyer indicated that she would like to know what height the new homes will
be, and if they are comparable to the homes on Theresa Place. Dietrichs noted that
the homes would be of a similar height.
Joann Meyer expressed concern about the sewer and water issue. She wants to know
about the assessment and will they be involved with it. She would like that in
writing. Franzen replied that all assessments will be against each of the lots within
the subdivision. Staff can get a letter from the Engineering Department to say there
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is no assessment on the Meyer's property.
Joann Meyer was concerned about where the road is going to be, and would like to
know, as they get closer to the time given, what the price of the homes will be.
Franzen replied that this road would be 50 feet of right-of-way. The pavement will
be 8 feet away from the back of the curb to where the property line would start,
about 11 feet on either side of the road.
Clinton noted that the Planning Commission does not address home value or price,
but reviews lot size and density. Price is an issue between the property owner and
the market.
Loreena Reiff noted that she is thinking about selling her property. She signed a
tentative agreement. Her purchase agreement was signed saying that the lower half of
her property would remain clear from any infringement as a result of this building.
She was not in favor of selling her property to begin with, but was approached by the
developer and decided that it might be a good thing to go along with the proposed
development. There are provisions that are to be maintained with this new road, and
she was concerned about what they have in mind as far as that road is concerned.
Dietrichs noted that road in no way will infringe on her property. The cul-de-sac
where she lives is not being extended and nothing has changed.
Glenn Bowen, residing at 7025 Mariann Drive, noted that his property is on the top
of the west side. He made reference to Lots 2, 3, and 4. He stated that there are
conifer trees which shade his property. He would consider that a suitable transition if
those trees were contained in Lots 2, 3 and 4.
John Mallo, residing at 14000 Forest Hill Road, was concerned about the impact of
Forest Hill of people living there. The second issue is what kinds of problems will
Golf View and Holly Road have if the traffic is there. He did a petition in the
neighborhood, everyone signed it and no one wanted it extended. He did a survey of
cul-de-sacs, and just in the Edenvale development there are 31. He noted that a cul-
de-sac is very much the rule rather than the exception.
Richard Greene, residing at 13731 Theresa Place, expressed concern about whether
or not sewer and water are going to come in. He also was concerned about the safety
of the children in the neighborhood if the cul-de-sac does not remain.
Dietrichs noted that the sewer will connect through the water and sewer that is
terminated at the end of the cul-de-sac, and any damages will be fixed by the
Developer.
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. Wissner was concerned about whether sidewalks will be put in if Forest Hill continues
and goes out to Baker Road. Franzen replied that that's something that hasn't been
studied yet.
Foote asked if there were any instances in the City where you have a road just
stopping like this. Franzen replied that the only one he could think of is Welter Way
off of Sunny Brook Road.
Ismail expressed concern about the past traffic studies on Kingston and Golf View
Drive. Ismail stated that he feels it should be studied, if a road connection is
considered.
MOTION 1: Schlampp moved, seconded by Wissner, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
Wissner commented that lot sizes are consistent with the overall area. She would like
the sidewalk issue looked into. She asked about the City policy on cul-de-sacs vs.
through streets. Franzen explained the policy is to pursue road connections and to
minimize unnecessary cul-de-sacs. Necessary cul-de-sacs may be for traffic control,
to save trees, topography and differences in land use. Through streets distribute
traffic and provide better emergency vehicle access.
Foote noted that from a planner's prospective, he would like to see the road
connected. However, based on existing conditions, he could support no connection.
He would like to see one lot taken out on the west side for a better transitions.
Ismail indicated that he did not see compelling reasons to make Forest Hills Road
connect to Baker Road.
MOTION 2: Clinton moved, seconded by Schlampp, to recommend a continuance,
and direct the developer to prepare a plan with no connection to Baker Road, one less
lot on the west side, a sidewalk connection from Forest Hills Road to Theresa Place.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
C. ANDERSON LAKES COMMERCIAL CENTER 3RD ADDITION by 169
Anderson Lakes Corporation. Request for PUD Concept Amendment on
approximately 17 acres, PUD District Review on 12.4 acres, Preliminary Plat on 12.4
acres into 3 outlots and road right-of-way. Location: Anderson Lakes Parkway and
Aztec Drive.
Kipp indicated that this site is part of Anderson Lakes Commercial Center PUD
approved back in 1984 and guided Neighborhood Commercial. In 1984 and 1986 the
property was rezoned Neighborhood Commercial for a daycare and gas station,
respectively, on the site near the corner of Aztec and Anderson Lake.
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This proposal is to replat the property. The platting does not include rezoning the
property or approving development plans. It is to resolve a title/ownership issue so
that Outlot B can be depicted as a parcel of record under separate ownership within
the PUD development area.
The proposal is Outlot B to be a 1 acre lot. Since the property is still zoned Rural, it
will require a waiver through the PUD to allow a 1 acre lot size. If the Planning
Commission recommends approval, Staff would ask there be a condition that any
future commercial development on the parcel be required to replat and that any
development proposal meet all City zoning codes without variances or waivers.
Wissner commented that this seems to be a way to resolve an existing situation. Kipp
replied that Staff considers this a housekeeping item. Since the project requires a
waiver, the City may add conditions. That future development does not have
variances or waivers.
MOTION 1: Wissner moved, seconded by Schlampp, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2: Wissner moved, seconded by Schlampp, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Anderson Lakes Corporation for PUD Concept
Amendment on 17 acres, PUD District Review on 12.4 acres, based on plans dated
June 8, 1995, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 9,
1995. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 3: Wissner moved, seconded by Schlampp, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of 169 Anderson Lakes Corporation for Preliminary
Plat of 12.4 acres into 3 outlots and road right-of-way, based on plans dated June 8,
1995, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 9, 1995.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
D. REGENCY PARC TOWNHOUSES by Regency Parc Limited Partnership. Request
for Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Industrial to High Density Residential on
7.27 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 7.27 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review on 7.27 acres,'Zoning District Change from I-2
Industrial to RM-2.5 on 7.27 acres, Site Plan Review on 7.27 acres, Preliminary Plat
on 7.27 acres into 86 lots and one outlot. Location: City West Parkway.
Jack Brandt, reviewed his project with the Planning Commission. He noted that
these townhomes will be more upscale in the sense that each unit is 1,440 square feet,
2.5 baths, either a 2 bedroom plus den, or a 3 bedroom, panel doors, washer/dryer,
double garages, and very strong features that are not generally found in rental
housing. Each unit will have an entering courtyard area with landscaping. The
clubhouse will be 100% brick.
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The developer recognizes that this is higher density than typically has been obtained
in other kinds of home developments. They are proposing to transplant large
evergreen trees, 14 to 15 foot tall to soften the view of higher density. The caliber
inch proposed exceeds the ordinance by approximately 200 caliber inches. The
developer feels there is a strong market for this type of development. It's 100% lease
rental.
Wissner commented that she has no problem with the project, but was concerned
about the use of vinyl. She can not see using vinyl in that area. Brandt replied that
the vinyl will be used on the rear of the garages. The garages are hidden from
passerbys and pedestrians.
Franzen noted that the Staff Report also recommends the use of stucco.
Schlampp indicated that stucco would look nice, but vinyl is used around in Eden
Prairie in very expensive homes.
Brandt noted that this is the most expensive townhome rental in the whole state of
Minnesota. It would cost another $3,000 to $4,000 to use brick on the entire
building.
Foote asked how much more would it cost for stucco. Brandt replied approximately
$2,000. It's significantly more than vinyl.
MOTION 1: Schlampp moved, seconded by Foote, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2: Schlampp moved, seconded by Foote, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Regency Parc Limited Partnership for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Industrial to High Density Residential on
7.27 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 7.27 acres, Planned Unit
Development District Review on 7.27 acres, Zoning District Change from I-2
Industrial to RM-2.5 on 7.27 acres, Site Plan Review on 7.27 acres, Preliminary Plat
on 7.27 acres into 86 lots and one outlot based on plans dated June 9, 1995, and
subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated June 9, 1995. Motion
carried 5-0-0.
E. MAIL HANDLING SERVICES, INC. by CS & M Company. Request for Site Plan
review with variances to be reviewed by Board of Appeals on 9.66 acres and
Preliminary Plat of 9.66 acres into 1 lot for construction of a 61,000 square foot
addition. Location: 7550 Corporate Way.
Jack Shaw, of Swedenborg Shaw Construction, representing the owner, Tom Silver,
reviewed his project with the Planning Commission. The proposal is for a 61,000
8
square foot addition to the existing facility. The addition would be constructed to the
south of the existing facility. The addition would be primarily a warehouse, as well
as having 4 loading docks positioned adjacent to the dock spaces. The construction of
the addition will be masonry or concrete wall panel. All conditions have been met
with the exception of where the loading dock is facing. This will require a variance.
They have taken into account reconfiguring the truck drive to better screen that, as
well as adding additional landscaping for screening.
Schlampp indicated that at least 8 to 10 foot high conifers should be used to create the
screening, instead of 8 foot high conifers.
Kipp noted that the existing facility does have about 5 to 6 foot berms along the front,
so the proposed evergreens should provide screening. One of the recommendations in
the Staff Report is to continue that planting scheme further north on the berm to
maintain screening of the existing loading facilities as well.
Darrell Anderson, architect, noted that the visibility in the trucking area is very
limited if you're driving 20 miles per hour.
Ismail asked what kind of business is Mail Handling Services. Tom Silver, owner,
replied that they prepare third and first class bulk mail. They do it for a lot of
companies. They assemble and stuff and mail the packages. They are also printers.
. MOTION 1: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 2: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of CS & M Company for Site Plan review with variances on
9.66 acres based on plans dated June 2, 1995, and subject to the recommendations of
the Staff Report dated June 9, 1995. Motion carried 5-0-0.
MOTION 3: Wissner moved, seconded by Ismail, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of CS & M Company for Preliminary Plat of 9.66 acres into 1
lot based on plans dated June 2, 1995, and subject to the recommendations of the
Staff Report dated June 9, 1995. Motion carried 5-0-0.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
None.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
None.
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VIE. NEW BUSINESS
Franzen noted that Tim Bauer has resigned from the Planning Commission. He is
forming a company out in Scotsdale, Arizona, and will be moving out there in July.
They will be looking for a replacement. If the Commission has any suggestions, they
might consider talking to the Mayor and City Council.
Ismail indicated that when he applied there were 10 people. He suggested reviewing
candidates from that list.
Wissner suggested Doug Sandstad because he wanted to continue on the Commission
and that experience would be beneficial to a Commission with several new members.
Wissner also suggested a workshop for new members. It might also help other
commissioners revisit current policies, procedures and ordinances. Franzen noted that
he would put something together and perhaps this might be done on a yearly basis,
much like City Council workshops or first of the year administrative meetings.
Wissner was concerned about Mervyn's building without Planning Commission
review. Franzen replied that code allows Staff to make administrative approvals on
projects and that it is sometimes difficult. If a project meets City code, is not a large
expansion, is an already approved expansion from years ago, or does not cause
potential traffic or drainage problems, then staff would review a project
administratively. Mervyn's, for example, was only a modification to building
entrances, not an expansion. Clinton reminded staff that they had previously agreed
to keep the commission informed of "administrative approvals." Franzen responded
that these projects would be added to the project profile.
Schlampp commented that he is on the Tree Committee and didn't think he would like
having developers on the committee. After listening to the developers, he learned
quite a bit, and the developers completely changed his mind about an issue. He
suggested that someone similar to that could make a good addition to the Planning
Commission.
VM. PLANNERS' REPORTS
None.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Schlampp moved, seconded by Foote, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0-0. The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
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