HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 03/25/1996 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, March 25, 1996 7:00 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote, Ismail Ismail,
Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward
Schlampp,Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael Franzen, City Planner
Scott Kipp, Planner
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE --ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. STARING LAKE TOWNHOMES by Pulte Master Builders. Request For
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Low Density, Medium Density, and High
Density and Office to Medium and High Density Residential and Office on 88.5 acres,
Zoning District Change from Rural to RM-6.5 and RM-2.5-on 44 acres, Planned Unit
. Concept Review on 88.5 acres, Planned Unit Development District Review on 44
acres, Site Plan Review on 44 acres, Preliminary Plat of 44 acres into 394 lots, and
EAW review. Location: Anderson Lakes Parkway and HWY 169.
B. BEST BUY PARKING by Best Buy Company. Request for PUD District
Review on 28.5 acres,Zoning District Change from Rural to I-2 and Site Plan
Review on 0.7 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 28.5 acres into one lot. Location:
10555 Northgate Parkway.
C. WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION by City of Eden Prairie.
Request for PUD Concept Review and PUD District Review on 18.9 acres,
Zoning District Amendment within the I-5 District and Site Plan Review on 18.9
acres. Location: Southeast comer of Highway 5 and Mitchell Road.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
IX. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
• CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
March 25, 1996
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Katherine Kardell, Kenneth E. Clinton,
Randy Foote, Ismail Ismail, Douglas
Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane
Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Mike Franzen, City Planner and Barbara
Anderson, City Recorder
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-ROLL CALL
Chair Kardell called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:Wissner moved,Foote seconded,to approve the agenda as published. Motion
carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Wissner moved, Sandstad seconded, to approve the Minutes of the March 11,
1996 Planning Commission meeting as submitted. Motion carried 7-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. STARING LAKE TOWNHOMES by Pulte Master Builders. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Low Density, Medium Density, and High
Density and Office to Medium and High Density Residential and Office on 88.5 acres,
Zoning District change from Rural to RM-6.5 and RM-2.5 on 44 acres,Planned Unit
Concept Review on 88.5 acres, Planned Unit Development District Review on 44
acres, Site plan Review on 44 acres, Preliminary Plat of 44 acres into 394 lots, and
EAW review. Location: Anderson Lakes Parkway and HWY.. 169.
Franzen introduced Tom Stanke of Pulte Master Builders. Stanke reviewed the
project and noted they have targeted three different types of needs within this
development. One type is the Village Home which is a 12-unit building in the shape
of an"L". There are four different floor plans within this housing type, and all units
will have garages located underneath which are accessed from the rear. The second
type is the Court Home which has 8 units per building. Two units will have single car
garages and six will have double car garages. The third type is the Club Home which
has been most successful with retired persons or empty-nesters, and meets a need for
single level living, which is in high demand in this age group. Stanke reviewed the
demographic information on prospective buyers for homes in this project.
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Stanke described the overall site plan with the Club Homes being located closest to
the existing residential property to the west. They have increased the density as the
project expands to the east toward Highway 169. They have created color packages
for each unit and laid them out so that the development will be less monotonous with
similarly colored buildings immediately adjacent to each other. They believe they are
providing a community which will keep people in Eden Prairie and give them the
lifestyle they are looking for.
Clinton inquired about the options available and Stanke responded there are only two
structural options available with the porch addition,but there are other options which
can be selected such as fireplaces, cabinets,etc.
Foote asked if the developers had considered including some affordable single family
housing in the project and Stanke responded that the project had been developed with
a different market in mind, similar to that at Hartford Place and they have 155 people
on a waiting list who want to purchase housing of this type.
Franzen gave the staff report and noted that staff recommended approval of the
requests subject to the requirements listed in the staff report. Clinton inquired if the
• traffic figures included the traffic from surrounding areas, and Franzen responded it
did,but they had not included school bus traffic in the figures. Sandstad inquired if
the office development were to be constructed if it would require construction of a
parking ramp. Franzen responded it would if it were all one-story. He noted that
staff believed this development was less intense and would generate approximately
50%less traffic than the previously proposed office use. The development standards
for this project are similar to other developments of similar intensity.
Kardell requested density figures on a product by product basis and Franzen
responded that the four-unit buildings had a density ratio of 5 units per acre,the 8-
unit buildings had a density of 10 units per acre,the 12-unit buildings had a density
of 16 units per acre, and the overall density of the project averaged out to 8.9 units
per acre. Kardell inquired about the timing for the project and the southern access
point. Stanke commented they met with the Hennepin Technical College people and
talked about the road alignment into their property which will help with the traffic on
Columbine Road when it is fully constructed. They propose to create a model home
complex which will include one of each type of product, and they will commence
selling all three types at once.
Sandstad inquired about a statement on page 8 in the EAW which sounded like it was
minimizig the quality of the lake. He commented he had seen a large number of fish
come out of the lake which would contradict the statement that it was not a quality
fishing resource. Franzen stated that the EAW was required to be submitted to a
number of agencies and they have to submit comments regarding its accuracy. The
Metropolitan Council did not have a problem with the EAW but were looking at the
traffic impacts from the proposed development. Sandstad commented that Item#13
stated that there would be no abandoned wells,but then they describe how they would
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cap a well if it were discovered. Page 12 discusses the total phosphorus inflow into
Staring Lake and he was concerned if the NURP pond would be adequate to handle
this. Franzen commented that the pond was sized according to the amount of water
which will drain into the site and this includes water from adjacent areas. The DNR
or Corps of Engineers would tell staff if more ponds are needed.
Schlampp commented that phosphorus will not be stopped by the NURP pond but
will continue into Staring Lake. He assumed the phosphorus would be less than it
was when the land was being used for agricultural purposes and large amounts of
fertilizer were used.
Wissner inquired who would be responsible for maintenance of the NURP pond and
Franzen responded that it would be an outlot dedicated to the City,which would be
responsible for its maintenance. Wissner inquired why the school bus traffic was not
included in the traffic projections. Franzen responded that it included people who had
the school as their destination by dropping off or picking up children. Wissner
commented she did not like the access onto Staring Lake Parkway and felt it should
be eliminated. Franzen discussed the traffic flow on the site and noted there would
be about 10%of the traffic exiting onto this roadway during the morning rush hour.
• The Public Hearing was opened.
Paul Olson, 8899 Flesher Circle, was concerned about the impact of putting a
development with this density into this neighborhood and its effect on the quality of
life for those residents already there. There is a traffic problem on Staring Lake
Parkway now and he was concerned about what the impact on the park will be as this
development contains no open space or land for park purposes. He was concerned
about the impact of phosphorus on the wildlife and vegetation and he inquired what
the total value of the project would be when it was completed. Stanke responded that
he could not address the phosphorus issue but he would ask the landscape architect.
He was not at liberty to discuss what they paid for the property but the approximate
value of the completed development could be calculated by applying the sale prices
to the number of units.
Chester Baker, 8918 Pine Bluff Court, inquired why the proponents had requested
such a high density development when Pinebrook has been built by Centex Homes and
there are numerous quads and duplexes on Mitchell Road. He felt that the
development was in opposition to the things that have been prized by those who live
in this neighborhood. He had lived in a townhouse development by the high school
and it had many units for sale all the time.
Gene Kopyar, 8937 Hilloway Road, stated he represented the Boulder Pointe
Townhome Association, and submitted a petition in opposition to the proposed
development containing 58 signatures. He believed this area was saturated with high
density residential units presently. As this development will have an association which
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will be responsible for the roadways and the enforcement of the restrictive covenants,
he was concerned about the development having adequate funding to maintain the
development adequately. Many similar developments have experienced problems in
finding funds for maintenance and he was concerned about the development falling
into disrepair and adversely impacting property values for adjacent properties in the
area. Stanke responded that the FHA and VA reviews and comments on the
covenants prior to closing for prospective home buyers. They also leave the projects
they develop with a large reserve fund for maintenance purposes when it is completed.
Kopyar inquired what criteria staff used when making a recommendation to the
Commission and Council. Franzen responded that staff adhered to the criteria
contained in the City Zoning Ordinance and Comprehensive Plan when making
recommendations to the boards and commissions, as well as the City Council. Sight
lines and peak period trip generation figures must meet requirements set forth in these
documents. The access point is about halfway between the school access points and
meets City standards for intersection location. The safety issue is reviewed by both
the Police and Fire departments and they have not had a problem with this project.
Gary Bongard, 8946 Garland Court,was concerned about the safety issue and felt the
project would be an eyesore because there was no area allocated for a playground or
open space or significant buffering from adjacent properties. Locating the highest
density units closest to Highway 169 presented a safety problem for residents with
children. Stanke stated that there is a total area of 88.5 acres which contains 1.5 acres
of wetland, 1.5 acres for the NURP pond, 3.1 acres of woodland and 3.5% will be
green space. Franzen stated that the Park and Recreation staff had recommended a
cash park fee instead of a land dedication because there were not that many families
with children which would utilize a playground area. He noted the traffic levels on
Highway 169 are expected to decrease when County Road 18 is completed. There
will be a signal installed at the Fountain Place and Highway 169 intersection which
will also help improve traffic conditions on Highway 169.
Jan Pitzer, 8820 Flesher Circle, stated he felt that the numbers of children which
would live in this development were not accurate, and the lots did not meet minimum
standards for size and there were waivers required for all the dimensions. Franzen
noted that this was standard in Planned Unit Developments. Pitzer commented that
he believed staffrecommended approval because this was a better plan than the plan
which had been previously approved, but he was not happy with the proponent's
proposal. Franzen commented there were always changes in the market, but the
Comprehensive Plan is not based on the market. The City does not change the
Comprehensive Plan based on development requests but rather on the City's vision
for how the City should be developed regarding its long range goals. This includes
performance standards which are contained in the Ordinance.
• Bob Bowes, 8636 Langley Court, was concerned about traffic and believed the
density was too intense for Eden Prairie. He was opposed to the project, and
commented the City should buy some of the land for a buffer or for parkland. Clinton
responded that he was unwilling to raise taxes to purchase more land for park
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purposes. Bowes inquired why the Cash Park Fee money could not be used for this
purpose. He thought the density should be distributed more evenly throughout Eden
Prairie and not just located in this one spot. He requested that the developer build
single family homes. Stanke commented that the majority of homes in Eden Prairie
are single family homes, and this development will address a need for more affordable
housing, for which their research has indicated there is both a need and a desire.
Sandstad stated that this project will create a market for first-time homeowners in
Eden Prairie,which has been difficult for first time homeowners to achieve because
the cost of houses in Eden Prairie are too high. He believed more lower cost housing
was needed in Eden Prairie.
Ron Bastyr stated that there was a 75 foot setback from Highway 169 which would
be both bermed and heavily planted, and there would be berms and plantings of both
trees and shrubs along both Anderson Lakes Parkway and Staring Lake Parkway.
There was a 35 foot setback from both Anderson Lakes Parkway and Staring Lake
Parkway, and over 4800 caliper inches of trees would be planted overall. There are
also berms and plantings between the various housing types within the development
itself.
• Franzen discussed the elevations and sight lines and indicated that the berms would
not be as high or provide as much screening as some people might think there should
be because of the elevation of Highway 169 and surrounding topography. Wissner
commented she was surprised at how much high density residential housing there
really was on Anderson Lakes Parkway because it is so well screened and buffered
from the roadway, and she felt Eden Prairie had done an excellent job in designing it
because the berming and landscaping create a feeling of open space.
Paul Olson stated there was a significant traffic problem on Anderson Lakes Parkway
and Staring Lake Parkway today, and this project would only exacerbate those
problems.
Karen Sell, 8796 Flesher Circle, stated she was concerned about traffic and believed
the trip projections made by the developer were too low. She did not see how a
traffic signal at Columbine Road would help traffic,but felt it would act as a giant
roadblock. Franzen commented that signals will provide openings for traffic flow and
let people get through safer. Signals are installed to provide safety and control but
do not reduce traffic levels. Sell was concerned about the impact of the project on
Staring Lake Park and how close the buildings would be to the outdoor center,
wetlands and other facilities, and how it would affect park usage. She inquired if
these units would have direct access to the park and Bastyr responded that the
development would be connected to the two public trails along Columbine,but there
will not be a direct connection from the project into the park. Sell stated she was
opposed to the project.
Marna Reilly, 8956 Garland Court, stated she did not believe this project was
appropriate for this area and she believed that it was a threat to the wildlife and the
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environment. There are few places that have the peace and quiet that this
neighborhood has and she felt that this project would be a disruption to that. She was
concerned about safety,traffic, and noise pollution, and requested that the proposal
be denied.
Chris Henkenius, 8812 Flesher Circle, stated she was opposed to the project.
Mary Valensky, 14359 Starwood, stated she was also opposed to the project.
Mike and Dixie Quinn, 8900 Flesher Circle, stated they were opposed to the project.
Stanke stated that concerning the issue of single family housing versus the proposed
housing types, they are constructing housing which is intended to meet a specific
market which has been unmet in Eden Prairie.
Foote commented that if they constructed single family homes on the land they would
be sold faster than they could be built. He believed that some single family housing
could be incorporated into the project and the developer would still have a viable
proposal to present to the City.
• Franzen discussed the types of housing through the community and where they were
located. He noted that the Metropolitan Council has asked that the metropolitan
communities adopt the Livable Communities Act.
Grant Warfield, 8991 Ferndale Lane, commented he felt that people who spoke
looked at Staring Lake Park as if it were an extension of their back yards, and he
believed the community was worth more than the project represented.
Diana Johnson, 8788 Flesher Circle,inquired what the status of the project was at the
present time. Stanke responded that they are under a contract to purchase the
property subject to approval of the project by the City and closing will not occur until
they have obtained that approval. Franzen reviewed the process by which a proposal
is reviewed and approved by the City, and noted that upon approval a development
contract is entered into between the City and the developer which sets forth the
requirements of approval.
Larry Berger, 8780 Flesher Circle, stated he was concerned about the density of the
project and the impact it would have on the quality of life. He inquired what taxes
would the City receive from the project.
Deb Dow, 14382 Starwood Circle, stated she was concerned about the impact all the
new residents with children would have on the schools,because the school district had
just had referendums to construct additions to existing schools. She was concerned
about current overcrowding in the schools, and inquired if the City intended to
construct another school to educate the increased population from this development.
Franzen responded that the school district reviews the demographic information every
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year and makes the decisions regarding school capacities and staff has not heard
anything from the school district regarding the impacts of this project.
Mickey Gaylor, 8934 Columbine Road, stated they have a scenic easement across
their property as do their neighbors, and she felt it was unfair that they were required
to place a scenic easement on their property but none was being required of the
developer. She was also concerned about the density and felt careful consideration
should be given to how the project was going to be managed once it was completed.
Franzen commented that scenic easements were usually required to protect wetlands
or trees.
Karen Tanner, 14366 Starwood Circle, stated that her planting and landscaping had
to be kept out of the scenic easement across her property because it was Oak
Savannah, and she inquired why this developer was being allowed to build right up
to this area. She also commented that the school district was not always accurate in
determining school needs, and she was tired of having referendums every few years.
Michael Luvratovich, 8933 Hilloway Road, stated that there is a noise problem from
Flying Cloud Airport and this development is going to be constructed less than 3/4
mile from the end of the runway. A light airplane crashed in this area last summer,
and he was concerned about the safety of having a housing development located in
this area.
The Public Hearing was closed.
Ismail commented he was not comfortable with the development as proposed and
believed there were too many variables in the proposal. He felt the density was too
high and should be reduced;the developer would still have a viable project.
Stanke commented that when they designed the project they attempted to create a
development that was aesthetically pleasing and did not know if the density could be
reduced.
Sandstad stated he had concerns about the effects of the density on the surrounding
area. He believed there were several buildings that were placed too close to Anderson
Lakes Parkway and Staring Lake Parkway and they cannot be adequately screened
or buffered from the roadways. He believed greater separation distance was needed
in these areas. He also believed there should be some sort of protection constructed
between the development and the parkland in the southwest corner. Stanke
commented they would consider doing this. Sandstad stated he was concerned about
the traffic and strategies for traffic management within the development.
Wissner stated she concurred with Sandstad, and requested that something in writing
be obtained from the school district stating that this project will not adversely impact
the schools in the area. She was not comfortable with the exit onto Staring Lake
Parkway and believed some redesign was needed to manage the traffic internally so
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that it did not exit at that point. She inquired about snow removal and storage on the
site and Bastyr responded that there was ample room for snow storage at the ends of
the private drives and other green space located throughout the project. Wissner
commented she did not think families with children would be likely to buy these units,
but believed there were significant issues that needed to be addressed before the
project could move forward.
Scblampp commented that he felt the project was nicely done and had good amenities.
He believed the setbacks should be increased from Anderson Lakes Parkway and
Staring Lake Parkway.
Clinton stated that Eden Prairie will always have traffic problems because of the way
in which it has been laid out, and he did not believe traffic from this project would
have that significant an impact. He believed that the density should be reduced. He
did not like the idea of Hennepin Tech viewing Columbine Road as another freeway
when the connection is made, and he felt this should be reviewed. He thought the
impact of this development should not be underestimated and he was uncomfortable
with it as it was presently proposed.
Kardell stated that she concurred with the comments made by her colleagues, and
noted that she supported multi family housing on the site. However, greater setbacks
and transition was needed between the project and Anderson Lakes Parkway and
Staring Lake Parkway. She believed that the southwest property line should be
fenced or protected in some way. A traffic study should be done which takes school
traffic into account and the issue of traffic from Hennepin Technical College cutting
through should be addressed. She did not have a problem with the private road
access to Staring Lake Parkway,because the more access available the better internal
traffic circulation would be. She believed that more affordable single family housing
would be good, but there was also a need for the proposed type of housing. She
requested staff to determine whether the NURP pond should be a single cell or a
double cell.
MOTION: Clinton moved, Sandstad seconded, to continue the Staring Lake
Townhomes by Pulte Master Builders request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Change
from Low Density, Medium Density, and High Density and Office to Medium and
High Density Residential and Office on 88.5 acres,Zoning District change from Rural
to RM-6.5 and RM-2.5 on 44 acres, Planned Unit Concept Review on 88.5 acres,
Planned Unit Development District Review on 44 acres, Site plan Review on 44 acres,
Preliminary Plat of 44 acres into 394 lots,and EAW review to allow the developer to
address the concerns expressed by the Commission. Motion carried 7-0.
B. BEST BUY PARKING by Best Buy Company. Request for PUD District Review
on 28.5 acres,Zoning District Change from Rural to I-2 and Site Plan Review on 0.1
acres, and Preliminary Plat of 28.5 acres into one lot. Location: 10555 Northgate
Parkway.
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Franzen reviewed the staff report and stated that staff recommended approval of the
parking lot expansion for Best Buy Company.
MOTION: Sandstad moved,Foote seconded,to recommend approval of the PUD
District Review on 28.5 acres,Zoning District Change from Rural to I-2 and Site Plan
Review on 0.7 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 28.5 acres into one lot for Best Buy
Company based on plans dated March 22, 1996 and the stipulations contained in the
March 22, 1996 staff report. Motion carried 7-0.
C. WATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION by City of Eden Prairie. Request
for PUD Concept Review and PUD District Review on 18.9 acres,Zoning District
Amendment within the I-5 District and Site Plan Review on 18.9 acres. Location:
Southeast comer of Highway 5 and Mitchell Road.
Director of Engineering Gene Dietz and Gary Tushie, Tushie-Montgomery Architects
were present representing the City of Eden Prairie. Franzen reviewed the staff report
and stated that staff recommended approval of the expansion of the Water Treatment
Plant.
Ismail inquired what the location would be for Highway 212 and Dietz responded that
the portion from the highway which was funded would be from the interchange to
Wallace Road, and had been scheduled for construction in the year 2000. He noted
that the toll road issue will have to be resolved before any construction occurs.
Tushie reviewed the plans for the expansion. Wissner commented that it would be a
significant improvement and the area where the sludge ponds were located would
appear to be almost park-like when completed. Dietz stated that when the facility
becomes fully operational in 1998 they will need to have a place to put the residuals,
which will be trucked out on a daily basis. The City is considering purchasing enough
land to be able to store this without having to pay someone to handle it for them. He
noted that the expansion was not coming from tax revenues,but rather from residual
funds from water bills, from SAC charges, and new construction fees. Sandstad
requested that the Planning Commissioners be given a tour of the facility when it is
completed.
MOTION: Sandstad moved,Wissner seconded,to recommend approval of the PUD
Concept, PUD District Review, Zoning District Amendment in the I-5 Zoning
District, and Site Plan Review, all on 19.8 acres, based on plans dated March 22,
1996 and stipulations contained in the staff report dated March 22, 1996. Motion
carried 7-0.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
None.
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Kardell noted that this was Ed Schlampp's last meeting as he was retiring from the
Commission. Sandstad thanked Schlampp for his service to the City,noting there was no
finer thing a citizen could to for his community than to serve on a public body.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
None.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
Franzen noted that there were several items scheduled for the next agenda, including
Lifetouch Headquarters facility,the Eden Prairie Presbyterian Church and the Staring Lake
Townhome project.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
• MOTION: Sandstad moved, Wissner seconded,to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
7-0. The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 p.m.