HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission - 05/27/1997 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday,May 27, 1997 7:00 p.m.
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COMMISSION MEMBERS: Beverly Alexander,Kenneth E. Clinton,Randy Foote, Bill Habicht,
Ismail Ismail,Douglas Sandstad,Mary Jane Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Jessica Lind
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael Franzen, City Planner
Scott A.Kipp, Senior Planner
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE--ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VILLAS AT MITCHELL LAKE by Hartford Capital Corporation. Request for PUD Concept
Review on 9.64 acres,PUD District Review on 9.64 acres,Zoning District Change from Rural to Rl-
9.5 on 9.64 acre,and Preliminary Plat of 9.64 acres into 30 lots. Location: Terrey Pine Drive&Hwy
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B. CAR X MUFFLER& BRAKE by Brian Cook. Request for Zoning District Change from Rural
to C-Reg-Ser on 0.56 acres and Site Plan Review on 0.56 acres. Location: 8108 Eden Road.
C. CROWN AVIATION by David Crown. Request for Site Plan Review on 0.7 acres for construction
of an 18,125 sq. ft. hangar at Flying Cloud Airport. Location: West end of hangar row along
Pioneer Trail.
V. PUBLIC MEETING
VI. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VH. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
IX. PLANNERS' REPORTS
X. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY,MAY 27, 1997 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Beverly Alexander, Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy
Foote, Bill Habicht, Ismail Ismail, Douglas
Sandstad,Mary Jane Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Jessica Lind
STAFF LIAISON: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner; Scott Kipp,
Senior Planner; Al Gray, City Engineer
MEMBERS ABSENT: Ismail Ismail,Douglas Sandstad
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-ROLL CALL
Chair Clinton called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Foote moved, seconded by Wissner,to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 5-0.
III. MINUTES
MOTION: Alexander moved, seconded by Foote, to approve the minutes of the
May 12, 1997 Eden Prairie Planning Commission meeting as published. Motion
carried 5-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. VILLAS AT MITCHELL LAKE by Hartford Capital Corporation. Request for
PUD Concept Review on 9.64 acres, PUD District Review on 9.64 acres, Zoning
District Change from Rural to R1-9.5 on 9.64 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 9.64
acres into 24 lots. Location: Terrey Pine Drive.
Bill Griffith,with Larkin Hoffman,reviewed the concept development plan with the
Commission including the grading and landscaping plan. This development provides
life cycle free housing for the community which will target pre-retirement and
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retirement age. Life cycle housing has grown in demand in recent years because of
the demographics ofthe population. This project is unique in the single family home
design. The site clusters the development and its an opportunity to preserve the
natural features of the existing woods. This development also provides a positive
impact on the lake.
The homes are called villas because they're on one level and are walkout style or
lookout style. All the units will be constructed with an attached double garage and
the units will be completed with stucco exterior and brick finishes. The cost of the
units will be between $275,000 and $400,000. There will be a homeowners
association similar to the concept of townhomes. The density is 2.4 units per acre.
He explained why this is a positive development in terms of the regional benefits and
how it fits in with the Comprehensive Guide Plan. A large single family development
would have much greater impact on the site with two-story homes and larger
footprints than the homes proposed. It's also likely a lot of the large trees would be
lost with larger footprints and larger lot sizes. Traffic and the trip generation is lower
because it's retirement age residents. The trip generation is 50 percent less as a result
of this market. The developer has proposed to pay for the cost of extending the
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He reviewed the site plan revisions suggested by staff. A number of building locations
along the easterly property line have been set back 30 feet to meet City code. In
working with Mr. Fristed,a neighbor,they have agreed to a privacy fence and a berm
with several trees planted at that location,with a fence to the lakeshore to provide a
clear separation between this project and his home. They would try to keep the fence
out of the 75 foot setback area,but if staff and the City are willing,they would bring
the fence down to the waterfront. They would like flexibility to custom design the
homes and be able to come back to the City for minor modifications. He referred to
letters of several residents who are in concurrence with the project.
Foote asked if the minor modifications would include two level homes. Griffith said
the minor modifications would be more exterior treatments of the building,the color,
the design,and materials. The homes would remain one level.
Foote asked if there will be one or two docks. Griffith said they would like two docks
with 24 slips,but staff has suggested one dock with 12 slips. They understand staff s
reasons for less dockage area but they have reduced what would be on the lakeshore
if these were large single family homes.
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Clinton was concerned about the berm and the fencing and asked what the height is
of the berm. Perry Ryan,Ryan Construction,referred to the grading plan and noted
the existing berm along Highway 5 is at an approximate elevation of 904 and coming
up at a 4:1 slope. They would continue that berming up just right north to the cul-de-
sac to an elevation of 908 and increase that berm in that small area.
Clinton asked if the developer has considered keeping the plan with single family
living down to the lake but meeting the City Code in terms of the lot sizes. Griffith
said the developer looked at a number of alternatives and for a number of reasons
went with this type of project.
Alexander commented that empty-nesters want to get away from maintaining a home
and some are of an age that probably don't want to deal with boats. She supported
one dock with 12 slips. She also supported the privacy fence stopping at 75 feet. She
was concerned about personal watercrafts and asked if there will be some control
over the types of watercrafts used. Griffith explained the project will have restrictive
covenants. Typically the users of the small personal watercrafts tend to be younger
less responsible in the use of watercrafts. They do not expect to see that here. They
can include restrictions of types of watercrafts in the covenants and consider that part
. of the development.
Franzen reviewed the staff report and gave background information about the small
lot concept for clustering single family homes and provided examples of this plan in
Eden Prairie. He explained the rationale for small lot housing and the purpose of a
planned unit development. He reviewed the four impacts of the plan which staff felt
were minor because there was mitigation. Staff believes the waivers for this project
are justified by the benefits with four of them listed in the staff report. Staff
recommended approval.
Foote asked what the side area setback is on these units. Ryan replied 10 feet
between the units and five feet on each side.
Clinton asked what the distribution of traffic would in the afternoon because you can't
make a left turn on Terrey Pine. Al Gray,City Engineer, said he would presume that
outbound traffic from this development would use Highway 5 so it would be 80
percent of the trips that leave this development. Regarding inbound, he would
presume most people who live here would be approaching from the east and west
direction because the median is closed. He noted most of the people who will live
here are probably not tied to an eight to five job and can use the roads other than rush
hour times.
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The public hearing was opened.
Glenn Fristed, 17247 Terrey Pine Drive, commented he is most directly impacted to
this site. He would like to add a fence to extend approximately 30 to 40 feet of the
high water line.
Clinton asked who enforces the limitations on the size of the boats. Franzen said that
is a City ordinance limited to 10 horsepower. Al Gray said it would be enforced by
the police. He explained how they enforce it and noted generally the residents help
patrol it. Clinton said as a resident of Staring Lake he sees jet skis out and in the
winter he sees snowmobiles and noted it is posted. He asked how to enforce that if
it is a law. Gray said calls to the police and they would send somebody down there.
Foote was concerned about the type of potential future development along Terrey
Pine because there is still empty land there. He asked what kind of housing would
that yield in the future to distribute to the traffic problem. Franzen said all the land
remaining on the north side of the lake is guided up to 2.5 units per acre so the person
who has one house can subdivide and have additional units. Franzen said he presumes
there's going to be another 15 or 20 units.
Habicht commented the proposal is a little more dense than he liked but given the
tradeoff with the large conservation area, and the fact these are single story units and
no disruption to the shoreline area, it's a good project. The reservation he had was
the fencing and recommended to stop at the 75 foot area because he was concerned
about setting a precedent. He was in favor of staffs recommendation of one dock
with 12 slips. He supported the plan with those recommendations.
Foote said he thought the project was a little too dense the first time he looked at it.
He would like to see the homes a little further apart than 10 feet. It's a good project
and it's better than having a traditional single family housing project. He supported
the project with the fencing stopping at 75 feet and one dock with 12 slips.
Wissner was comfortable with the project. She commented from her own experience
living in a townhome development of 24 units that there isn't a high traffic area of
people coming and going as when there are small children. She supported the project
with one dock and 12 slips.
Alexander supported the project with the fencing stopping at 75 feet and one dock
with 12 slips.
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Clinton also supported the project with the fencing stopping at 75 feet. He was still
concerned about the traffic on Terrey Pine Drive because inbound is still going to be
a problem. It's the only way into the project coming from the east. He also
recommended one dock with 12 slips.
MOTION 1: Wissner moved, seconded by Habicht, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION 2: Wissner moved, seconded by Habicht, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of Hartford Capital Corporation for PUD Concept
Review on 9.64 acres,PUD District Review on 9.64 acres,Zoning District Change
from Rural to R1-9.5 on 9.64 acres,Preliminary Plat of 9.64 acres into 24 lots based
on plans dated May 23, 1997 and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated May 23, 1997. Motion carried 5-0.
B. CAR-X MUFFLER & BRAKE by Brian Cook. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to C-Reg-Ser on 0.56 acres and Site Plan Review on 0.56 acres.
Location: 8108 Eden Road.
Ken Nordby,architect,presented the proposed elevation of the Car-X building which
will be next to the Jiffy Lube site. The building is approximately 4600 square feet
with six service bays. Construction will be brick and they have added some color
block for some accent colors, and a prefinished canopy. The building will have
recessed service doors which is similar to Jiffy Lube next door. They worked
together with staff for the landscaping and are trying to preserve as much of the
existing trees that are on the site. They have talked with Jeff Johnson about trying to
create a NURP pond. Mr. Cook has requested that the City accept a financial
equivalent to the construction costs of an on-site NURP pond to the City's Storm
Water Utility in lieu of constructing the ponding. These funds go toward construction
of regional ponds for treatment of storm water.
Wissner asked if they would work together with Jiffy Lube by bringing the cars to
each other. Brian Cook, owner, said normally they do not but they would trade
coupons. They are separate businesses.
Clinton asked how Car-X compares to Jiffy Lube in size. Kipp replied Car-X is
slightly larger.
Foote asked if this is a typical size to other Car-X shops. Nordby said most of the
Car-X shops they have worked on are going to eight bay areas rather than six.
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Lind asked what the distance is from this building to Jiffy Lube. Nordby said
approximately 125 feet.
Alexander was concerned about whether there would be sufficient parking for the cars
waiting to be served and the employees. Nordby said yes. The cars that are waiting
to be served would actually be across and adjacent to the property line of Jiffy Lube.
There is also some parking up against the west side of the lot.
Kipp reviewed the staff report and noted that the proposal is consistent with the
design philosophy used for other car care projects. The use of building jogs,recessed
service doors, and metal canopy designs provide architectural compatibility and
minimizes views to the service doors. The staff recommended approval.
The public hearing was opened.
Habicht commented it's a small site and the use is consistent with the surrounding
area.
MOTION 1: Habicht moved, seconded by Foote, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION 2: Habicht moved, seconded by Foote,to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Brian Cook for Zoning District Change from Rural to C-
Reg-Ser on 0.56 acres based on plans dated May 8, 1997 and subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated May 23, 1997. Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION 3: Habicht moved, seconded by Foote,to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Brian Cook for Site Plan Review on 0.56 acres based on
plans dated May 8, 1997 and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated May 23, 1997. Motion carried 5-0.
C. CROWN AVIATION by David Crown. Request for Site Plan Review on 0.7 acres
for construction of an 18,125 square foot hangar at Flying Cloud Airport. Location:
West end of hangar row along Pioneer Trail.
David Crown, president of Crown Aviation, briefly discussed the proposal. They
want to build a hangar of 18,125 square feet in size. It has 24 foot walls with dual bi-
fold doors that face away from Pioneer Trail. The parking will be on the north side
of the building and the north side of the building will be the portion that will be facing
the ballpark on Pioneer Trail. Everything has been done according to City Code.
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Kipp reviewed the staff report. This was reviewed against the Flying Cloud Airport
Design Framework Manual that was adopted by the City Council last year and it
meets all the criteria. The 24 foot tall hangar will be constructed of metal, with 25
percent of the north elevation constructed in rock face block. Currently sewer and
water is not available to the airport but a private holding tank is proposed meeting the
building code. This building is prepared to connect to sewer and water when its
available. It's difficult to provide landscaping on facilities at the airport, but some
landscaping is encouraged through the Design Framework Manual. The plan provides
for planting of some trees and shrubs along the parking area and staff will be working
with the developer to finalize that prior to permit issuance. Staff recommended
approval.
The public hearing was opened.
MOTION 1: Alexander moved, seconded by Foote, to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION 2: Alexander moved, seconded by Foote, to recommend to the City
Council approval of the request of David Crown for Site Plan Review on 0.7 acres
based on plans dated May 6, 1997 and subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated May 23, 1997. Motion carried 5-0.
V. PUBLIC MEETING
None.
VI. MEMBERS' REPORTS
None.
VII. CONTINUING BUSINESS
Clinton commented since Tire Plus withdrew its application,he noticed a sold sign on
the building for Hardees. Franzen said National Tire and Battery wants to build on
this site and is scheduled for the next Planning Commission meeting, June 9.
Wissner asked why Tire Plus fell through. Franzen said it was too expensive for them
to bring the building up to the Fire Code.
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VHL NEW BUSINESS
None.
IX. PLANNERS' REPORT
Franzen reviewed the agenda for the June 9 meeting.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Foote moved, seconded by Habicht,to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. The meeting adjourned at 8:34 p.m.
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