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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 07/10/1990 - Joint Meeting APPROVED MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL AND PARKS , RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION TUESDAY , JULY 10, 1990 6 : 00 P.M. COUNCILMEMBERS : Gary D. Peterson, Mayor; Richard Anderson, Jean Harris , Patricia Pidcock, Douglas Tenpas COMMISSION MEMBERS: Bud Baker, Chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Karon Joyer, David Kuechenmeister , Paul Karpinko , Pat Richard , Del Vanderploeg ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein CITY COUNCIL STAFF: Assistant City Manager Craig Dawson; Director of Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Robert Lambert ; Landscape Architect Barbara Penning Cross ; Recording Secretary Roberta Wick The meeting convened at 6 : 05 p.m. in the City Council Chambers. II . Community Center Entry There were two problems with the entrance to the Community Center: ( 1 ) The entry to the Center is too narrow and ( 2 ) the landscaping is messy. Lambert presented two separate plans for redoing the entrance . Barbara Cross, Landscape Architect , explained the problems with the present design. She said one alternative was to relocate the present entrance and install a brick plaza in place of the landscaping. The cost of doing this would be $276 , 000 . Alternate funding had been suggested by selling :cricks with citizens ' names on them as well as corporate logos . It would take 13 , 200 bricks and 105 corporate logos to break even on the cost. The second approach would be to repair the circulation system , which is the biggest problem. A temporary fix would cost $23, 369 . If all new concrete were installed the cost would be $49 ,000 ; exposed concrete would cost $80 , 000. For the entire street work and entry work the cost would be Unapproved Minutes 2 June 10, 1990 Special Meeting, Eden Prairie Ci t.y rntinci 1 and Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission $105 , 000 provided the City crews would do all of the work except the concrete . Staff would like direction on this from the Parks Commission and the Council . Vanderploeg said he liked the plaza design. Joyer liked the design but was concerned about the temporary planning . Baker pointed out that there was no line-of-sight from the door of the building to the car when picking up someone at the Center. Pidcock asked if a model could be done first . Lambert replied that it could be done but it is very time-consuming. Tenpas said he liked the plan with the entire project completed . Anderson asked if this kind of thing should be done at all with all the things that need to be done in the City. He also asked if City should hold another referendum . Lambert said there should be agreement on a plan before anything was done about a referendum. Peterson said he favored the entire project but it would not be a priority for 1990 and it should be in the budget for a later date . All Councilmembers were in agreement with him on this point . ' I. CaRital IMProvementProgram o Park and Open Si>acg Plan Bill Morris of Decision Resources reviewed some of the results of a survey done on the satisfaction level. of Eden Prairie citizens with the quality of life and with recreational facilities, and what they saw as being needed in the future. Fifty-two percent considered the quality of life in Eden Prairie excellent ; 46 percent said good. Regarding the quality of park facilities , 92 percent said excellent or good. ►'he small parks in the area were used by 70 percent of the Eden Prairie households; 71 percent used the large parks. On the Community Center entry, 80 percent supported changes if they could be done without additional taxes . The evaluations on the recreational facilities in the City were as follows : Small parks - 90 percent said excellent or good ; Community Parks - 89 percent said excellent or goad; Community Center - 90 percent said excellent or good; Trails - 85 percent said excellent or good. Unapproved Minutes 3 June 10 , 1990 Special Meeting, Eden Prairie City Council and Parks , Recreation & Natural Resources Commission Regarding a possible Miller Park referendum, 53 percent supported it, 35 percent opposed it . Morris pointed out that for a special election the critical thing was how many people go to the polls . Opponents tend to go to the polls on these issues . November of even-numbered years is the best time to present the referendums . Baker asked if the questions with regard to the Miller Park referendum indicated the magnitude of the costs. Morris said no , but it led people to believe that costs would be lower than the last time. Anderson asked if it would be possible to have the referendum include several things in addition to Miller Park. Morris said if the total package was over $50 for each property owner, it would be harder to pass than if it were lower. Richard said he believed that in a good turnout election, the Miller Park Referendum would pass. Lambert reviewed briefly Pages 1466-68 of the agenda materials on planned expenditures. Details were covered in the memorandum dated of May 18 . Lambert discussed the issue of power boats and jet skis on Bryant and Riley Lakes . He said he believes some limitations on horsepower will eventually be requested. 4 Lambert asked the Council how it wished to finance the improvements. Pidcock and Anderson suggested more discussions , possibly in work sessions or special sessions. Anderson asked how much time was needed to put the referendum on the ballot . Dawson said six weeks . Lambert said that a formal report from Decision Resources will be ready for the Parks , Recreation and Natural Resources Commission, for the first meeting in August . Dawson said that the analysis of the Community Survey will be ready in a month Monday, August 6 , 1990 was agreed upon for a joint meeting to discuss the remaining items on the agenda. V . ADJOURNMENT y The joint meeting was adjourned at 7 : 20 p.m.