HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 02/14/1989 7 EN PT AIRTE cYiTY Cnt;NCTT,
APPROVED MINUTES
T'JF^DAY, FEBRt111RY 14 , 1989 7 : 30 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COUNCIL MEMBERS : Mayor Gary Peterson, R ichar�] Anderson,
Jean Harris, Patricia PIdcock , and
Douglas 7,-rn pa•,-
CTr'Y COi.]NCIL STAFF : City Carl J . .Jullie, City
Attr,rnr•y P,oger P.-icily, Directnr of
Planning C-hri--- F.nger, Director of
Parks , Pecrc•atlon & Natural Fesnur^es
Robert ',_imhert , Olrer_.tot of Public
Work: Eu(jenf2 A . Dietz, .and Recording
St-crr-tary Deb E(Ilund
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
:=Or,L C,:LL . All Members Present.
1 . A. ROVAL OF ACENDAT A11,DOTT__J TZM^ C?F EAU^I t1JF,
Pidcock moved , seconded by Harris to approve the Ac3enda as
published and amended .
APDI7I0143
Add Item VI . City Manager Evaliiat; i +,n .
Motion, carried unanimously.
I I . PRESENTATION_ 0 G-QLFF COURSP ALTFRNA71VE DESIGNS FOR
P3L[[.1FF_PA_K -. BAD MAN�Ace.SOCT ATES
Barry Warner , Barton-Aschman Associates, presented three
possible alternatives for a golf r.ourse . A household survey,
community demographics and market competition were taken into
consideration . The issues which were addressed in the
declsion making process were the MTJSA Line, the Flying Cloud
Airport clear zone , another golf course at the west boundary,
the Minnesota River Valley Bluff line, respect of the natur.-11
vegetation, the . City ' s object, and the natural charac-teristics
,af each property. The first alternativF! was .i J)"blic:•ly- owned
18 -holtt course with the provi:-, ion for two open- -.':paco—,-j)srkc: .
Vie ;,#-rond altern.-itive would rr. t.aln t•hP i,,1x: c-n1,1r�;e at Cedar
Hill. . It wc;,,i t2 �.;irireaccess from Highway 169, which would
require significant expenditure to provide I,-ines for
s.-tfet:y . It would ,also allow for Five pockets of ,single - family
res1denti,aI hQtnt--:i . The third .al"prnativa
Wrinusota Riv,zr Bluffs . Residential homes would be broken
into ,msl ]. porket areas . T}ie clU bhOuse wOU ld overlook the
Minnesota River Valley.
Fehruary 14, 19S9
Warner s t-it e.-I t h In t t h 7 o"44 p"Lit i-j w;i 'h,:iVC. the
ClLibhoii�:(- centrally loraled ; firSt 9 hn1ti-s would have an
attractive view. 711 ,1t, W01-11d 1:)1' .71 g00(1 it -If t:!it- !)rOrjOrty
rtf the restriction .; of MA?7 . Open -__pace- adil-icent to
the golf course would 1ie, preserved a.:i well a_-., the PL !c,,y Creek
Valley. This Tocation would provide a good opportunity for
residential (1--velopmerit . Warner noted that additional mapping
would be required prior to course design , Warner believed
theft! was enou�jh land availzible for the golf COUr,.�,e t c3 e.xist
succtz--ssfully with --lingle-family residential and that this
would be a guod vehicle to pr"-serve :--ensitIv-E• areas within the
property.
Peterson asked If land wtilch was not part of the C-harl-. on
property would also be developed as residential . Lambert
replied Yes .
Tom Bierman (luestioned what the rationale had been to Include
res. i(lential- propt:-rty t-.hrw.ig1ir_)ut the entire 30�-.Z�.tr site for
the golf course . Lambert replied that 140 to 160 acres would
bf- required for an 13-hole golf course-; In many of the areas,
the contour was extremely steep which rau3efl the additional
land requirement . Lanibezt- believed that this, proposal would
provide a win-win situation for both Mr . Chorl-_-on and the City
by allowing Charlson to retain prinne lots for sale a--
residential homec, at an increaf;e invalue because of the golf
course, which would help make tip the difference for the price
the land sold to the City.
A resident asked if the course voul(] I)e hj : ly . Warner replied
that the portion to the east was rolling hills .
John Standal , 9955 r�pring Road, asked if sewer and water would
be available in this area. Warner replied sewer and water
would not be available until, approximately the year 2000.,, the
home sites would have private wells, and the golf cour:6e wou1,_1
have Its own well .
III . REVIEW OF PROJECTS LDS
THE JANUARY 31ST
MEETING - BOB LAMBERT
IV. 1)j S RE : p0tlp REFERENDUM NDUM RnJE TS
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A .
B .
U:imbert reported t.h.-:3t witli 4 Oiirchasc of 130 acres tj-'e City
would be ahl to dovulop a golf rource , pr vicle 0 - for 70 acres
of hark 1 .�n(], 1-ind the bal,iiicu of thtt property woul(_1 13e-
residential . A conceptual agrt�ernent to
WOUld be estimated at $12, 500 per acre for $ 21'r900, 000; 70
-acres would '.)e dedicated to the City Fis a gift . The property
owner would maintain the best lots for residential use, and
r 1.1-.*r
the Riley creek W-illey would ht- retain�,-! . he City woul,11 n(-Yt-.
-50- Itf Lu have the- .-,, o fttnal I f ield3 and r" ' Ubl.-Ioust� w,,-)uld
not overlook the Minnesota River Blurt ; c;evt-ral
other sites were available with magnificent views . Lambert
briefly addressed the other items listed as proposed pro.-Jects
to be 1nclu(1c--d in the referendum with a propoz-ed estimated
cost of $10' 77)01noo .
P(-ters(-.)n If the amount's took Intr;
the lncreas .Jnt] population and If the figures InClUCIell E(-�Z- ._tray
m,--ilntenance of the facilities . Lambert replied that .a
increase in population growth was included ; however, It ' id
not
includFL any maintenance, only the cost to pay the bond .
Woody DInkel , 10430 White Tail Crossing, asked If fh-arf- was a
timetable established for the project;, . I-Ambert rer)21 ,7d that
construction could begin in 1.910 but woi-ild not see use until
1991 . T.ambert added the bubble on the ice would be at least
one year away .
Standal afjkt-,d who would pay for the development of the gulf
course . Lambcrt replied that the development would be
provided for as part of the bond referendum . Othex
communities h-ad indicated that fees from the course would pay
for the development, and operating cost if the City had the
property available .
Kevin Dahl was concerned that Miller Park would not be able to
cover the soccer field needs If the Flying Cloud fields were
no longer available .
A resident questioned the $3, 400, 000 cost for Miller Park .
Lambert replied that the S3 . 4 million was for the completion
of Miller Park, with the maJor portion of the cost being for
grading and utilities . Lambert added that the storm water
piping and utilities needed to be Installed at the same, time
as the road system. This amount did riot include any outdoor
hockey, or beach . Lambert stated that an outdoor pool In the
future was a possibility If a beach were determined not to be.
feasible .
Pat Richard, 6713 Lorenei Lane , believed that It was important
that neighborhood meetings be held to dI.-->cuss these j).-Irk:7 :-,L)
that no misunderstanding:; occurred . Lambert replied that
notice to those in the z;e-rvice area would advised of
neighborhood meetings . All plans were conceptual In mature .
Lambert added that the City had no intention of developing a
neighborhood park in opposition to a neirjhborhoodz wishes .
(71nkel ht-lieved that- 991 (.-, f the success of the referendum
would dtap(-nd on informing the public and belleved that when
the information packets were sent out the public should be
made aware of the neighborhood meetings .
City 7ounc. 11 Y, i ri ii to s 4 February 14, 1989
Lorrie Heimke--. , C.-trt-.way Curve , If tht: trail from
IS r'd 1111 t - -- nt � T :ambert.cwa 11L o `, . y 1 -.
replied that thi.-, trail w,Liz; includt--d in the Vll�, 000 figure;
however, it had been inadvertently 1----ft uut �Yf the
de ;C.r 1 f)t it i 11 .
Mary Campbell, 17918 South Shore Lane West, belitz-vf.-d that the
tjentlenian who had brought up the issue- of the (.-Ailldren ' s
wadin,j pool 31,71 not nic-an to close in the existing structure,
hut to build a new oiie . Lambert reel l,..-d that this was
correct .
GInkr-1 --tatted that during the last referendum 35% were for an
ice arena and 471. were r)pVn.---ed . The co---t for the
proposal wao three times the amount of the current referendum
cost for an dome . Cinkel believed that it was vital to
make now Uc--ms c-l-e-ar ant] to provide detailed costs . G I n k e 1 t.
added t-hat the voters should be informed that they would be
voting for their future and it would he possibly 7 to 8 years
befo -o jiven another chance . Ginkel believed that if the
voter-. were informed properly and completely the referendum
would bct ucceE;-- ful .
Fred Le Grand, 9866 Linden, questioned If the amount of the
referendum being over $10, 000, 000 might have a psychological
barrier to some voters .
Steve Krause, 6^032 Sugar Htll Circle, stated that these items
being presented were items that the committee believed were
important . Krause believed that the voters should be Informed
about the items which were also looked at and rejected as well
is those included . He believed that the voters needed to see
oome common sense used .
Christine Dodge, 15850 Westgate Drive, stated that the Council
had been -asked to determine the priority of the community' s
needs . Dodge believed that it was important to inform the
voters that these were only the beginning of park needs, and
not the end , so that voters realize that other referendums
would be coming up in the future . Dodge noted that the City
Nall Issue still needed to be resolved at sumo time in Lhe
future . She believed that the most Important aspect c.-,f the
.r(=ferendum wa-, the land acquisition and that it possibly
:-.hoiild be separated from the other area of the referendum.
Dodge believed that come of the items could be done at a later
t-.Im#-- ; however , the land could he gone forever If not purchased
now .
Pett�rs-on believed that if the majority (if the Items I !--,ted
were aporovt-d on this referendum, another rpferenduni would n ci t:
he neressary In the near future .
Bierman �.t.-ited that a double gym had been -added at the last
meeting . Bierman queztlonrd the need for a double gym when
City Council MinllteS r i i.'t r y 14 , 1 89 1
tllF high scho'711 .711141 II ! ,]ih werf.. 'Icldin�3 new 'Jym-.5 to
their
emotional ab'(-.)11t certain; Issues . L.aiiibcrt that he had
received several nerj.. tlivc, comment: recar(lincj th,=- double gym
and believed this item would he difficult tc :7 f, 11 to t ti
voters because of the f(-.-.I I owl rig objf-ct I ori-e� 1 ) t•=-i Y.e,s, 2
:3chools have jyins already, and 3 ) priv.ite fac il Ities are
ava I lable
A tl- �4t Ahe .;a- that after A I - 7!,I)ending $10, 000 , 0001, very li tt I c
t-_-speclally IUI-it natural areaL� . Lamtert- replied that there
would be 70 acres reserved as part of tho-_- Bluff Park area , the
City had approximately 1, 400 acres of open space park land,
and would eventually have 3 ,000 acres to he part of a wild
life and conservation area . Lambert believed that Eden
Prairie would have enough land 'It-ft in riatur.-il
Pat Richard bellt_�ved that the dollar amount should be kept
tinder $10 , 000, 000 . Richard asked how much could be saved if
the road-, were not paved at the parks . Lambert replied that
this altoernative was not ac-ceptablo ht_-cause additional land
Would 1-.)F- taken up with the ditch --race required ir gravel road
were used Lambert said this would save approximately
$250, 000 .
Mayor Peterson concurred that the dollar amount needed t c? be
reduced.
Anderson believed that the land acquisition amount should not
be reduced . He believed that the land acquisition was the
future of Eden Prairie .
Peterson asked Lambert how Important the 3 neighborhood parks
at 15 acres each were in the Southwest Area at this time .
Lambert replied that the Rice Marsh Lake Park was Important
rind should not be delayed because developers were already
wanting to develop this property. The other two parks were
outside the MUSA Line and could possibly wait for another five
years . Lambert belleved that the Rice Marsh Lake Park land
should be purchased In 1989 or 1990 at the very latest .
Pf_-LerJorj believed that If other funding methods were :available
to purchase these two parks they should be conoidered .
Anderson ;i::;k(,(] Lambert what the estimated cost of the RIce
Marsh Lake P;irk would be . Lambert replied that each of tilt' 15
acre parks were estimated at $200, 000 each . L'im17.ert :added
that :,in exac.t fl.gure was not known at thi,, time ind there was
the pr)�.slbllity to acquire land In lieu of park
Ander:_jriij that if the City delayed in the purrhaTe_ t-,)f
tl-;(- C).7(-,j)rrty it would hav- to pay snore for the 1.31-1(1 in the
futurr-� Lambert concurred that the land watt 1d be more
tl..:pen3ivr in the future; however , the cash park fees should
he hiql-tor -4::; well . Lambert was conce-rnf-d that the r-Ity's
its r"c,,,;�ci1 :tin„t;��s C February 1 �, 1939
ability to pur.ct-,._ se. lanj� parcel of land was decreasing .
Lambert was not as concerned about the area Foiith of County
Road I .
Pi�3crac-k asked Lambert if hey heli<-,ved that $2401000 would be
enough purcha-se the land fctir Riley t.•ik- Park. Lambert replied
that the cost would ie, hi�jh,:r . The snitching arnount. of the
(32 .ant w,,is fruni several year:, Kayo :and now the City would have
to pay IAice r.-ite _a the clevt,lope rs . L,imhext believed that
with rash j)ark fees .and the matching grant it could be
possible to come close to the $240 , 000 figure .
Tenpa,3 stated that lie was frtuotrated with the accuracy of the
fl4jures being presented . Lambert replied that whenever he had
Lo pres-ent figures to the public before an .=+dual decision was
macde the figures are higher . Lambert re 1 ieved that the actual
r-osts would be lower than these eotii►gated figures ind that
^�ome of the projectu could be negotiated throi.igh the cash park
Ee- pr oc e.-.;s • ftt
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Peterson pointed out that this process was only to approve a
poij , ible funding concept and the City was not committed to
f,pec,d these dollars .
LAND ACQUISITION
Anderson was concerned about the City waiting for land e
.acclul :Ation . He added that the price of land would only be
higher and the land available was quickly dlsaDipearing .
Pc_t:e-. r: on stated that purpose was to get ca referendum Passed
arid believed that costs needed to be reduced in order to
accomplish this goal . Harris concurred with Mayor Peterson
that the costs needed to be reduced and added that she
believed the costs needed to be under $10, 000, 000 . Harr is
believed that a need for each item needed to be Wert i f led for
the voters . She also believed that while land acqui Ation was
ar, important issue, there were other needs which were equally
Important and because the development of the Southwest sector
was well into the future and cut: needed to be made, that the
two 15-acre parks could be eliminated at this time .
Z. ON :
Harris moved, seconded by Peterson to remove from the land
•acqui::�ition two of the 15-acre neighborhood parks at an
estimated cost of $2.00 , 000 each, leaving the land acquisition
cost at Y?, 730, 000 . Motion failed 2-3 . Anderson, P HIC.- ,ck ,
.and TenpaL; all voting "NO" .
7 rrebruary 14 , 1989
Mn-TT ON
Pldcock moved , :De-conderl by Anderson to approve thr- land
acquisition amount of $4 , 130, 000 .
:;t.-Ated that there- wa:; an opport. ,zi-IlLy to X:(:(,1UC:e this
amc)i by ellininating the tw(-) park,; and he
-int. hy ";, 400, nr0 .0
belleved th,it th(!,rt_- were mare important current needs which
nee-ded fund my now, while these two parks could wait for .:I few
yea r
,Anderson -, tated that this was a unique area . Anderson p..-) Inted
out that in the past the City had not always ht-f-n able to
1)u r c h a s e 17)r oper ty which was needed . Anderson believed that
the land acquisition was the most important
Motion carried 3-2 . Harz !-- and Peterson voted "NO" .
.COM.MTJNTTY PARK DEVFLOPMENT
Harris asked Lambert if there would he ancither alternative to
Irrigate the fields- at Flying Cloud Field . Lambert replied
no .
Anderson asked Lambert If the City had not been able to get
help from the DNR In the past for fishing piers . Lambert
replied that Vit-_- cost was approximately $5, 000 and that grant
couldbe possll)le .
Harris. bellovc-cl that all of the items under the Community P.--Ark
Development were e-sisential .
Peter--on asked if the City would lose the matching grant if
Riley Lake Park was riot In the budget . Lambert replied that
the matching funds could be lost .
Teripas believed that the improvement proposed for Round Lake
Park , StjrIncj Lake Park, and Flying Cloud Fields were
aesthetic in nature and questioned if tho-_-se It.ems could not be
eliminated at this time .
M=nt!:
Tenpas moved, seconded by Pidcock to remove Round T,ako Park,
Staring Lake Park , and Flying Cloud Fields from the Community
Park Development for a savings of $90, 000 .
Lambert bellevt�d that the City nPeded to expand the hard-
-;Urf,tued areas at Round Lake Park and Staring Lake
Park
(_) f Uie traffic patterns and the increaso... In uz;e .
Lambert stated that the turf at these! parks waz, not hnl(Ung up
ition sy-tem was riecesL�ary . A e erosion.ind :.ifi irrig, 1 b 1 -
problem could occur at these parks if the tut wat_- lost clue- to
the lack of wale-r .
City f-nlincll 1-1 i ni u t(-s 133 Ff.-UrUar'V 14 , 1.1189
Anderson concurred with r.amlhert- th;7-it irri,jating the Flying
(-loud Field:.; was not a good idea; . Laint-utt a1rild that for a
^00 invtstment the City EA-iou' c"! '0-
years of use and th.-it could not be guar:" fit eecl it this} t i in e-
P I dCOCk, aSkr_-(j if Wood chips could 11-le 1,7:BQJ It P.DUti(I L.-.Aku Park .
Lamb"rt replied ghat it would not look at-, go(_)d anl would not
hold up in 't-he well-traveled areas arouLnO the-- bull2ing:3 .
Peterson stat(--d that. 'lie fjv(-;rvd the litution an L d beli :vec-" that
alternate funding sources for thet,-t2 prc�jt_!cts :;hol-ild
considered .Motion carried 4 -1 . Harris voted "NO" .
NETC,14BORHOOD PARK L�EVELQPMEN T
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Peterson asked Lambt-rt t-r) (-_I.�rlfy the meet for the garage pit
Edenvale_- Park to be replaced . Lambert replied that the floor
va-1 cracking and there were also problems with the building
rt.-uctllre itself . Lambert _stated Staff be" 1 eved that the
building either needed to lble over. hauled or replaced .
-a-,;ked if the I.-)u 1 ld Ing was used year round . Lambert
replied It was used as a warming hou:5e in the winter and for a
few suramer programs; however , It had not been used at all this
last summer . Tenpas stated that he would like to see the
Preserve Park building eliminated and the second floor
renovation at Hoineard Hills Park .
Anderson believed that there had been i strong interest from
the ptiblic for Homeward Hills Park, Wyndham Knoll Park, and
Pioneer Park . Lambert concurred .
Peterson asked what could be done at Pioneer Park for $50, 000
Instead of $100, 000 . Lambert replied that grading, seeding,
and a jravel parking lot could be done for $50, 000 .
Anderson asked if everything had been resolved at Prairie Fast
Ula r k Lawburt replied that this park should have a, skating
rink and a picnic shelter which was not enclosed . He added
that two years ago the neighbors have voiced strong requests
for these items . The neighbors did not want a parking lot on
Buckingham Drive .
MOTTr)N :
Placoick ,roved, ti.econded by Tenpas to rf.-Ouce Preserv(� rank to
710, 000, delete Homeward Hills Park entirely, and Ed(_,nvale
P.--irk., reducing the costa by
:; t-ati-d that Homeward Mlll:i w.is_ *-i large neighborhood
which had a strong interest about the park alceltcr . This
neighborhood was a loncl way from any other park . Lambert
M 1 n u t e: 9 'rFt:bru--) ry 11, 191C19
ht-11evt--d th'it this park W(-)1.j1(1 ht�lj) (J.-A11-1 .--A 14)t of :-'-Ipport for
Lh(_ zcferonduni if left in .
Pj-dcock .--*ske,-1 wYiy the ut)-�;L was $'45, 000 . Lambert replied that
the barn needed to be in.-:.ulated and brought ij) to code
,,3 ta n d a r d z; . Iik--- ._;dried that a second access for a fire escape
also needed to be provided .
Tenpas asked what the square footage of the first floor was
L.-tnibert replied that the barn was 40 ' x6O ' with an open space
area of 20 ' x401 on the first floor . Tenpas believed that the
City' s money would be better spent developing new facilities
where none currently existed and In the acquisition of land.
Anderson asked how usable the facility was presently. Lambert
replied it was currently used as a warming house- In the winter
And for summer playground programs . Lambert believed that the
potential use would be unlinjited if the building were opened
Lip . r,ambert emphasized the need to get the ref(--reridun, passed
and believed that the CliMiT-iation of Homeward Hills Park would
he detrimental .
Peterson concurred that UcimewArd 14111s, was far away from any
other park and suggested .3 compromise to include $30,000 for
Homeward Hills Park .
4. AMEL4.DM TO THE MOTT Oki:
Pldcock moved, seconded by Aricle-rson to Include $30, 000 for
Homeward Hills Park . Amendment to the Motion carried 4-1 .
Tenpas voted "NO" .
The original motion carried 4-1 . Tenpas voted "NO" .
R A TL
Harris moved, seconded by Anderson to accept the Trail System
as recommended .
Peterson asked If two txall::, were Included at Purgatory Creek .
Lambert replied yes .
Motion carried unanimously .
City ""JUtIC11 MIIWtt- a Fehiu.--iry 14 , .19,89
COMMUNITY CET-17ER TMPRr-".7 MENT^
M(IrT ON:
move,?, 'recr-11de-(I t)y Parr to do ihle
gymnasium, indoor rm-sriing tr,:tc-'K. , and indoor wading
pool .
Motion carried unan imously .
noted that the entrance improvement for the Community
Center for $75, 000 had bo-eri forgc.,tteri . Lambert also commented
that tht- reasc.)n the vading pool had been Included wa :. that
there was no plac--e for the small children to swim .
?4()T T 0 N
liar r I s moved, seconded by Tenpas to include the followiri-;
under the Community Center Tinproveyments : Recreation Staff
offices an(] multi purpose room, fabric dome and ice rink- , and
the entrance, totalling S925, 000 .
Peterson (11-IeStiOrle9 if the multi-purpose room would be
necessary if the plans for the Factory Outlet Centre proceeded
for development as a family entertainment center . Lambert
replied It would depend on the types of facilities and the
supervision provided. Peterson asked what portion of the
$250, 000 was Ear the multi -purpose room . Lambert replied that
It would be hard to Estimate because some of the offices were
included in this arun also .
Mot -Ion carrie-d unarilmou-sly .
Refe-rendum, Total at this 11oint $9 , 140, 000 .
Paul Karpink.c), 6891 Su<jar Hill, stated that the Council had
done an excellent Jol) in reviewing the recommended projects .
Karpinko was concerned that the maintenance costs were not
included and asked where these funds would come from.
Peterson replied that: estimated would be provided for
maintenance and personnel costs; however, these figures were
difficult to determine because many of the project would riot
be completed for 5 or more years .
T31(-rman stated that the Council had (jotten below the
�30, 000, 0110, but questioned some of 1--he reductloti77, .
believed that Flyincj Cloud Fields, Round Lake Park, and
Staring Lake Park were all highly visible projects and the
,-IMOUnt of money saved by eliminating them had been minimal .
Bierman was concerned that the costs had been redticed by too
much . Pe-terson replied that the �10, 000, 000 figurp dI43 not
preclude some of these items being addressed at another tim#-;
additional (Iolltrs w111 be spent over the next few years and
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other niethac7c. of fund1ng ccou!d l.)c- ia.-e(_1 h•ar►dle :cc1n)(. of the
items .
Candy L.eGrand , 93G6 , inde:rn, recommer:rle_d `!,_it the Council
consider tal:_inil out Lhu ;400, non from th,-• i..ind •=acqui:sition as
originally considered and put t_)ack in the items that the
residents will vote for .
Kevin Dahl concurred with LeGrDnd that the land acquisition
redilct iun I-hul-ild bL c'u:zs. idrreJ . Hu addedt that tl►( Southwest
quadrant was un+leveloped at C:oi:_: time acrid the funds could t.)e
better used in ether areas .at this time .
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Lorrie Heimkes, 12157 C.artway Curve, stated that only one
Counci Imenzl:,er had said they had visited a neighborhood park
and heliev«:d that these items should be readdressed . She
believed that the Council was cutting out important items to i
the voters when only one. Councilmember had indicated that they
had actually visited or used any of the parks .
Vicki Koenig, 7239 Topview Road, supported leaving the land
.:acquisition as it was . She added that if thr City did nc:t
purchase the land now it might not have the parks in the
fc.:tIIre .
.7,Dhn Freemyer. , 6616 Harlan Drive, believed that lane-]
acquisition was the most important issue; however , he would
.(upport takl tag out the 2 parks at $400, 000, Especially If
there wb a possibility of a land dedication by the
c3Pvrlopt�r�: . Freemyer stated that the City was asking the
voters. to oxtend into the next 10 years for land acquisition
cAnd telivvuL1 that maybe this was too much to ask right now .
Mr . Wuttke, 1GC60 Flying Cloud Drive, concurred that the land
acquisition should be reconsidered and reduced by $400, 000
because it vas too far in the future Wuttke believed that
the Council had cut out areas which would be vote getters .
Brian Nicholson, 6635 175th Avenue West, stated that he was
pro land acquis1tican for the parks in the future; however , the
ultim.�;t:e <3oal of having the referendums pass also needed to he
considered .
Moe Cook, 6920 Parkview Lane , supported the ltanO acquisition
.and believed that the residents needed to begin thinking of
the needs of the City 10 years from now . He belleved that Uie
tjoal was tn 1iave the referendum pass, but al;su bellt�ved that
the City needed to project the imp►ye that it was lookin<j it
the lung-term need:_; of the residents ind, therefore, land
c 4ulsitiun should be the number one priority.
!' F=red Le- Grand noted that the laxid acquizition wa 45% of the
total referendum figure .
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Tenpas believed that it v,--i.s important to lock' at long-range
plat-is for the City ,-arid it was equally important to educate the
residents of th .1 ,2: riffF-d _ T;e t1 .At ac-(_jtY1 %, 1L1cin was
important fort'her believed th,-it financing items Such
as community pa_-k linprovi- ment:s should bt.- haridled on a short-
term finance basi :.;; not tjjrc),.j9jj 1(-)ri(.j-tetw hond r(-- ff_-rendums;
14a_ zri5 stated ghat Lhosf,.- resIrJ(_-ntz3 who are living here now are
the one, which are t,.zyiny fur the p,irk.:_ An(_1 other Iteil's -Md
the Council needed to be cognl�;ant of tht-- ir need_- ctit(] Include
items which address their inter,-.-Lts, -such as community parks .
Harris stated that the City had br-en successful to zloquire
park ?and as the areas were developed . she bellevt~d Lhat the
same opportunity would be available In the �.(.),uthwr-5t, section
of the City.
Anderson :-.fated that. maybe it was an impossslble ta-y. to have
the referendum be undt--t
Peterson stated that the Issue waF. to provide what the
residents wanted . Anderson replied that the cuts had started
to be able to get the cost tinder :710, 000, 000 . Peterson stated to
that it was important for the residents to know that the
Council had considered all of these items very carefully.
Woody Ginkel stated that If the philosophy of the Council was
presented to the voters related to long-term versuc, short-term
plans , the voters would uAnderstand .
Doug Lawver, 16631 North Hillcre5t Court, believed that the
City should j)ut forward a first class referendum or do none at
.-ill . He dIL1 not believe that $8, 000, 000 to $11, 000, 000 was an
unrealistic figure .
Another reE:ident stated that the Council had come a long way
and that the ultimate goal to be under $10, 000, 000 could be
reached by the elimination of the double gymnasium and the
Indoor track and there world still be a short-term and a long-
term balance .
M 0T I ON
Pidcock moved , seconded by Harris to bring the land
acquisition que:-;tion back for further d13CUSsion .and Proposed
to delete the two 15- acre parcels for $400, 000 .
Harris asked if the Intent was then to add items back In which
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had b,-(-ri t!-/(-lxjdud In exchange for the lend I.LCqUI ✓1tion .
Pldcoc-Y roplied that was the Intent .
Tenpas bellevc-.!d that to re(ILICE.' tht.' land acqui-a- ILIon figure
would be short -:3ighted and Irrespons1l:,le when surveys had
indicated that the residents believed that land acquisition
W:.is vital to the community.
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Petersen stated that the council was only talking about 30
..ic.res in the southwest area out of a total of 360 acres, which
Ind should not bev��:i:'rid='L <a� s1hort
sighted .
Anderson asked if a compromise could be reach:.d by reducing
the land acquisition figure by $200, 000 .
Peter son stated that he would not be inclined to add items
unless something was taken out; in exchange .
Pidcock stated that she had been the Councilmember who had
Introduced strategic planning to Fden Prairie and died not
consider it fiE.cally irresponsible or short-sighted to
consider reducing the land acquisition figure .
AMF,_UPk!7_�Q__THE MOTTgN :
Anderson moved , seconded by Pidccck to reduce the laird
1-ic uisition amount b $200 000 . Motion carried 3-2 . Ton as
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and Harris both voted "NO" .
MU'►'I ON:
Anderson moved, seconded by Harris to include Staring Lak<t
Pa-irk .and Round Lake Park in the referendum figure for an
addition of $60, 000 .
Tenpas asked haw long it would take for these items to be
completed through the operating budget . Lambert replied these
two parks could be done next year if included in the budget .
Tenpas believed that these parks were important but should he
handled by short-term funding .
Anderson asked if these two parks could be included in next
years budget . Jullie replied it was possible .
Motion carried 3-2 . Tenpas and Peterson voting "NO" .
Tenpas stated that it was not a question of need, but rather
}row the City could best pay for the needs . Tenpas added that
with taxes rising it was important to consider every possible
means of paying for these items .
Anderson questioned the need for the garage at Edenvale Park
and why It would cost $45, 000 . Lambert replied that the
pr opo;,a l was to ptit: up a park shelter and warming hou e . The
proposed cost in 1933 had been approximately t*.,35, 000 . Lambert
noted that it was these types of items which -seemed to he cut
from tht, budget. first .
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MQTIQN:
lnuve:31 n -,(I C Y Cry Peterz;(, to . L rl C) the
refe-rendum cost the Ede-rivale Park garage. . Motion carried 3-2 .
Tenpas and Pidcock voted "NO" .
C . Sing .01
Pldcock moved to have a multiple question ballot . The
motion failed for lack of a second .
U_O_T T�()f
Anderson moved, seconded by Harris to have a single
question ballot . Motion car-- ied unanittiously .
D . Date of Re_t!-�ndum
Mn- TT nN :
Anderson moved, e-ecorided by Pidcock to set April 18, 1989
as the date for the referendum.
Lambert noted that this would be close to the same time as
when the property valuations would be sent.
Tenpat; believed that it should be at least postponed for
two weeks after the proposed date due to income taxes
being due on April 17, 1989 .
Peterson believed that one week would be sufficient .
A resident noted that the first half of the property taxes
were due on May 15, 1989 . Another resident noted that
many would be getting state and federal tax refunds .
ANEIN-PLMIUMT—T-9-1-M,-B-n—Ti-SPINK:
Anderson moved, seconded by Pidcock to change the original
proposer] date to April 25, 1989 .
Motion to set the date for April 25, 1989 was approved
unanimuut;ly.
V . A= 0 I_7 AT ,_Ejt jBI,Ig_TNRM
MOTTO
PICCOCI; moved, Secorlded by Anderson to approve the budget as
proposed . Motion carried
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Vr . e^_ ITY MANN ER GOALS
1 :�-.v' � tiii3t tIIR' -jS.Jj!?ct -)f the. City MI-triaijer ' s goGils
needed to addressed . She recommetided that t}le City Manager
came to the Strategic Planning meeting with these goals in
mizid .
.7 il" le ::.ta:`ec3 that he had a llo:t of specific goal: .
Peterson questioned if the Stro- te,)Ic:: pialit,11,19 meeting w.�s the
.appropriate Mace to include this item .
Harris requested information by the next regular City Council
meeting .
VIZ . An�JOURMMEN
The meeting ad Journtd at 10 : 35 .