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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 03/06/1984 - Joint Meeting APPROVED MINUTES JOINT MEETING EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, MARCH 6, 1984 6;30 PM, SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION BOARDROOM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS: Mayor Wolfgang H, Penzel , Richard Anderson George Bentley, Paul Redpath & George Tangen PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Bob Hallett, Stan Johannes , Dennis Marhula, Edward Schuck and Hakon Torjesen CITY STAFF: City Manager Carl J. Jullie, Planning Direc- tor Chris Enger, Director of Public Works Eugene A. Dietz and Recording Secretary Karen Michael I . CALL MEETING TO ORDER a t The meeting was called to order by Mayor Wolfgang H, Penzel . 7 II . ITEMS OF DISCUSSION Planning Director Enger reviewed what might constitute an office/service use according to present criteria being developed by the Planning Staff. He noted the differences being requested now with more office space being requested with- { in what had been generally regarded an industrial use. He indicated the high tech use which has been requested in Eden Prairie has had varying ratios of commercial/office/industrial uses. Enger discussed the various rationale behind the requests. Enger reviewed the existing office/service (high tech) character- istics : height of building; ratio of exterior perimeter wall to building foot- age; ratio of lineal feet of wall with windows to total perimeter wall area; percentage of building finished initially with floor coverings , wall coverings , and ceiling; percentage of building initially with heating, ventilating and air conditioning; exterior material ; parking; service area doors ; building size; landscaping; bay depth average; building details; mechanical equipment; percent- age of building with a two-story office element; and the type of building. He suggested that proposals could be reviewed based on these characteristics and he will provide the Council and Commission with further information. Enger also noted that the present square footage of office and commercial space had been reviewed along with potential square footages of office space based on a recent real estate study -- this showed that Eden Prairie would absorb spec office land within ten years. Enger said that the office space which is available in Eden f Prairie is prime office space and should be retained as office. He said that he hoped the remaining industrial areas in Eden Prairie could be developed to their highest use -- and this might be office/service. i Joint Council/Commission Minutes -2- March 6, 1984 Redpath asked if it was appropriate to look at proposals with respect to k their relationship to the Major Center Area. Enger said he thought this was valid. Tangen said he had voted against the last proposal for City West because he felt warehouses (high tech) were a lesser use than what had origin- ally been intended and he thought an office use was preferable. Bentley asked if these ideas should be put together in a format to provide another zone. Enger said what has been presented tonight is the beginning of that process. In the next few weeks other projects will be coning before the Planning Commission and the City Council which will be measured against the criteria as presented; this will give further indication as to whether or not another zone is needed. Anderson asked how long it would take for the Planning Staff to draft stan- dards which would then come through the . Planning Commission to the Council which would indicate what high tech is. Bentley said there should be certain minimum standards and once a project was below a certain number of points it wound no longer be eligible for consideration. Enger said it is possible to come up with a definition relatively quickly. He questioned whether the characteristics of a zone that would be acceptable to the City would respond to development requests. In other words, would the zone be used? Bearman suggested we look at what we don't want in an industrial zone and go from there. The consensus was that Staff will be directed to develop information and a proposal for the Commission and the Council on the office/service use based on tonight's discussion. Enger said he would provide the Planning Commission and City Council with the materials which were presented tonight relative to ranking proposals. Beaman suggested that perhaps the Cormnission and the Council should take a look at criteria for determing a Guide Plan change. He said he felt there is a need for more substantive reasons for making changes including a check list. III. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 7:30 p.m.