HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 11/15/1983 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1983 7:30 PM, CITY HALL
COUNCIL MEMBERS: Mayor Wolfgang H. Penzel , Richard Anderson, George
Bentley, Paul Redpath and George Tangen
CITY COUNCIL STAFF: City Manager Carl J. Jullie, City Attorney Roger
Pauly, Finance Director John D. Frane , Planning
Director Chris Enger, Director of Public Warks
Eugene A. Dietz , Director of Public Safety Jack
Hacking, Police Captain Keith Wall , and Recording
Secretary Karen Michael
INVOCATION: Councilman Paul Redpath
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL: all members were present
I . COMMENDATION FOR RICK RABENORT/BUCK AND JIM MATSON/HAWKEYE
Mayor Penzel asked Director of Public Safety Hacking to explain what the
dogs and their trainers have done. Hacking then introduced Officers Rick
Rabeno rt and Jim Matson and their dogs Buck and Hawkeye as well as the
wives of the officers. Penzel presented a letter of commendation to each
of the officers and expressed appreciation on behalf of the citizens of
Eden Prairie to the officers and their families for the hours of training
in addition to their regular working hours which are spent in this endeavor_
Janet Koch of Black River Falls , Wisconsin, was also introduced. Penzel
presented her with a letter of appreciation for the hours which she has
spent assisting our K-9 units with their training programs .
Hacking introduced Tom Myers, President of the Crime Prevention Fund. The
Crime Prevention Fund has paid for the equipment, travel expenses , and mis-
cellaneous expenses which have been incurred by the K-9 program; these
expenses have not come out of tax dollars.
Buck demonstrated his ability to assist in locating a "foreign substance"
by locating marijuana which had been placed in the Council Chamber.
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II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
The following items were added to the Agenda: IX. A. Penzel - 1. _ Location
of Meetings in January, 2. Liquor License Terms and Method of P_,ymegt; and
X. A. Lease Arrangement - Rosemount MIDB.
The following item was removed from the Agenda and continued to December 6 ,
1983: VII . A. South_ Hennepin Human Services Council - Mary Hayden and Rose-
mary Dysinger.
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Redpath, to approve the Agenda and Other
Items of Business as published and amended. Motion carried unanimously. i
III. MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 1, 1983, CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Anderson, to continue action on the Minutes
of the November 1, 1983, meeting of the City Council so additions and corru-ctions
could be made. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Clerk' s License List
B. Change Order #1, Brookview Circle, I.C. 52-040
C. Des_ nate Eden Prairie Road (between CSAH 1 and TH 169)�as part of the
Municipal State Air-& tem —(Resolution No. 83-281) tT
D. Final Plata roval for Massee Addition _(Lot Repl at in Edenval a 15th
Addition (Resolution No. 83-282
E. Chan a Order #2, I.C. 51-308A-2
F. Change Order #1, I.C. 51-308C
G. Change Order #5, I .C. _52-025
H. Set Public Hearin for easement vacations in Ridgewood West for December
6, 1983, at 7:30 p.m^
I . Final approval of Municipal_ Industrial Development Bonds for BBS Partner-
in the amount 6f1,750,000.00 Resolution No. 83-2867--
MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Anderson, to adopt items A - I on the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried unanimously.
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City Manager Jullie stated notice of this Public Hearing had been published
and notices had been sent to property owners within the project vicinity.
Ron Krueger, proponent, addressed the proposal .
Director of Planning Enger noted this request had been reviewed by the
Planning Commission at its October 24, 1983, meeting at which time it
voted to recommend approval subject to the recommendations included in
the Planning Staff report dated October 21, 1983. Enger indicated this
request had been reviewed by the Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources
Commission and it had suggested the area along the slope on the northeast
side of the proposal be described and covered by a scenic easement within
the conservancy area of Purgatory Creek. Enger said there has been additional
concern regarding the location of the access to County Road 4; work has been
done in an attempt to resolve these concerns. Enger reviewed the various
alternatives and explained the pros and cons of each. He noted that the
fewer intersections along County Road 4, the better; that was the a reason
for looking into alternatives. He stated that the property owner to the
south had been consulted as to his plans for that property and that is
how the alternatives had been developed. Another question to be resolved
is how to save the trees. Krueger reviewed the rationale for how the
site plan was determined.
Anderson asked which proposal would have the least impact on the land.
Enger said that would be the proposal as presented by Krueger. Penzel s
asked which would have the least impact on traffic safety. Enger said
the plan which would limit access to County. Road 4 to one intersection.
Anderson asked about the feasibility of a right-in, right-out turn only.
` ._ Enger said that would not present the best situation, but it would not
be an unduly hazardous situation either. Krueger said the County has
said the right-lane turn at the Duck Lake intersection will have to
remain. Enger said the possibility of having County Road 4 a four-lane
road through this section of Eden Prairie will have to be looked into.
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Bentley suggested the developer come back to the Council with a redrawn
plan. Penzel said Krueger should work with the property owner to the
south to make some adjustments to the plan; he noted he is in favor of
the Hidden Ridge concept. Redpath asked when the realignment of Duck
Lake Road would be done. Director of Public Works Dietz said that will
be done this coming year. Tangen said he felt there were two issues
which had to be examined: the environmental and safety -- and these two
issues tend to conflict with each other. He said he felt a decision
could not be made at this time because the details were not available;
he said he would like this referred back to Staff so these details can
be worked out.,
MOTION: Tangen moved, seconded by Anderson, to continue this Public
Hearing to December 6, 1983, and refer this back to the developer and -
City Staff for further consideration. Motion carried unanimously.
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V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. REQUEST FOR MUNICIPAL INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF
$4,000,000.00 FOR JAMES REFRIGERATION COMPANY Resolution No. 83-285
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City Manager Jullie stated notice of this Public Hearing had been published.
Charles James, proponent, was present to answer questions . Also present
was John Hickerson, Allison-Willians Company, proposed original purchaser
of the bonds.
There were no comments from the audience.
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Bentley asked about the status of the City' s establishment of a reserve
fund. Jullie said he had sent out letters of inquiry to other communities
and had received four responses. These will gc to the Development Commission
for its review and then will come before the City Council .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Redpath , to close the Public Hearing
and to adopt Resolution No. 83-285, relating to the authorization and
issuance of revenue bonds of the City under M'nnesota Statues , Chapter
474, for the purpose of financing a project thereunder; giving preliminary
approval to the project and authorizing an application by the City to the
Minnesota Energy and Economic Development Authority. Motion carried
unanimously.
B. PUBLIC HEARING FOR S & S _LAND COMPANY JSHERMAN & SOREM RELATING TO THE
TAX EXEMPT FINANCING REGULATION �TEFR
City Manager Jullie indicated notice o- this Public Hearing had been
published.
Finance Director Frane said the purpose of this Hearing was to conform with
new IRS rules which became effective after the City' s MIDB approval for
this project and prio to the closing.
Bill Sherman, S & S partner, 7575 Corporate Way, said they are trying to
comply with the law and it is necessary to go through this procedure.
There were no comments from the audience.
MOTION: Tangen moved, seconded by Redpath, to close the Public Hearing.
Motion carried unanimously,
C. HIDDEN RIDGE by Ron Krueger _and Dick Mackenzie. Request for Zoning District
Change Pram Rural to R1-13. 5 and Preliminary flat of 10.3 acres for 11 lots.
Location: east of County Road 4 at Duck Lake Trail . (Ordinance No. 55-83 -
rezoning and Resolution No. 83-283 - preliminary plat)
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D. REQUEST FROM JOHN LIEPKE FOR COUNCIL REVIEW OF BOARD OF APPEALS &
l ADJUST_MENTS DECISION ON VARIANCE NO. 83-33
City Manager Jullie said notice of this Public Hearing had been published.
He reviewed the file on this request.
John Liepke addressed the request noting this was a unique situation.
The address of the home is 15208 Scenic Heights Road and was built in
1890. He said it was one of the oldest homes in Eden Prairie. He noted
he would like to build a deck and reviewed the plans of what was proposed.
Liepke said he understood there was a "grandfather" clause. City Attorney
Pauly explained that the "grandfather" clause applies to non-conforming
uses -- those properties which do not presently conform to proper set-
backs, etc. , and existed prior to the passage of a particular Ordinance;
it is a non-conforming use as long as the use is not expanded -or changed
and therefore is allowed to continue in that form. Pauly explained that
because Liepke is intending to expand, he is subject to the terms of the
Ordinance.
Redpath asked if Liepke has attempted to meet with his neighbors as per
the request in the Minutes of the Board of Appeals & Adjustments. Liepke
said he had not; he said he did not feel he had gotten a "fair shake" from
the Board of Appeals & Adjustments and therefore chose to come before the
Council .
Bill Gilk, 15212 Scenic Heights Road, said this has been a long, drawn out
project. He said he felt a 15' setback was quite adequate. He stated the
design of the deck does not conform to the design of the old farm house.
He noted that this has strained relationships in the neighborhood and has
created a negative impact. He asked the Council to take into consideration
the work of the Board of Appeals and Adjustments. He said he felt the deck
constituted more than just that -- it is an addition to the home. He said
it would have a negative impact on the neighborhood.
Raymond Rannow, 15210 Scenic Heights Road, asked Liepke if he intended
to cantilever the deck over the footings and if the footings would be
15' from the property line. Liepke said it would be 15' back or 20'
back from the easement and according to the plan which had been presented
to the Board of Appeals & Adjustments. Rannow said he was not happy with
the plan.
Ethel Wokash, 15214 Scenic Heights Road, said her husband' s main concern {
is about the run-off from the second story roof and its effect on the road
which is private and must ba maintained �Y the residents. Liepke said he
would repair the road if there were problems .
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Tangen asked what the side-yard setbacks would be in an R1-22 District. Enger
said 15' . Tangen said he felt this neighborhood had the characteristics of
that type of neighborhood (R1-22) and while the neighbors might not feel the
C deck to be aesthetically acceptable that is a matter of personal opinion and
he would be inclined to grant the variance.
Bentley said he questioned the precedent setting aspect involved in this
decision -- does the Council take action or not. He reviewed the findings
of the Board of Appeals and Adjustments.
Redpath said no matter which direction Liepke were to add on to his home
he would offend someone because there are neighbors on all sides. He suggested
Liepke make a final attempt to work out something with the neighbors and come
back before the Council in two weeks.
Anderson said he had a similar problem with an addition to his home whereby
he was unable to get a building permit due to restrictions on homes in his
neighborhood. He said there should be uniform enforcement.
Penzel said he felt the rules should be applied uniformly and there is time
for compromise with the neighbors.
" MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Anderson, to continue this Public Hearing
to December 6, 1983, to allow time for Liepke to work with his neighbors on a
solution to his deck problem. Motion carried unanimously.
VI . PAYMENT OF CLAIMS NOS. 10522 - 10745
t, MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Penzel , to approve the Payment of Claims
Nos. 10522 - 10745. Roll call vote: Anderson, Bentley, Redpath, Tangen and
Penzel voted "aye. Motion carried unanimously.
VII. REPORTS OF ADVISORY COMMISSIONS
A. South Henne in Human Services Council - Mary Hayden and Rosemary D sin er
This item was continued to the December 6, 1983, meeting.
VIII . PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS
A. Request from Alex Dorenkemper regarding denied shooti9.g_permits
Penzel noted Dorenkemper' s letter of November 10, 1983, (see attached)
regarding the denied shooting permits.
Alex Dorenkemper, 18925 Pioneer Trail , reviewed the points expressed
in his letter.
City Attorney Pauly said there were considerations of safety involved
which he felt could be best expressed by Captain Keith Wall . Wall
referred to his memorandum of November 14, 1983, in which the request
was addressed (see attached. )
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Redpath said he was willing to go along with the recommendation of
the Public Safety Department because it has the wherewithal to
make these decisions.
City Attorney Pauly said the City Council has the authority to take
into consideration the public safety issue.
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Anderson said he felt it was irresponsible to be in favor of hunting o
with rifle slugs in the City of Eden Prairie.
Penzel said he had calls from people who were concerned that hunting
was going on in the City. He said there is also a problem with controlling
where hunters might be. He said this request might bring to a head the
decision as to whether or not hunting of any kind is appropriate in
Eden Prairie.
Walter Bentz , 9802 Crestwood Terrace, relayed his experience with hunters
in the area and expressed concern about the number of children who use the
various outlots for play areas . He stated it is a dangerous situation to
mix the recreational use of the outlots with hunting.
Tom Jensen, 9806 Crestwood Terrace, said he did not feel the residents
should have to be exposed to this type of danger. He said he cannot
afford to outfit his children in blaze orange.
Jerry Harris 9844 Crestwood Terrace, said he did not know how this got
to this point because it is such a dangerous issue.
Penzel explained that as the City has developed the City has restricted
hunting more and more. Hunting zones were created to allow such in some
areas of Eden Prairie. The City Council must now decide if this is still
viable; more specifically, is this particular request appropriate.
Jill Grier, 9848 Crestwood Terrace, expressed concern for her three children
and dog. )
Sonja Brown, 9869 Crestwood Terrace, said she is fearful of hunters in
her backyard; this is where her children, as well as other neighborhood
children, play. She said hunting is far too dangerous to be allowed here.
Penzel asked Director of Public Safety what the experience has been this
Fall relative to hunting in the City. Hacking said there have been a few
complaints which Captain Wall has personally handled. The complaints, in
general , have come from the area immediately south of City Hail , He said'
he thought the situation should be studied.
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Bentley asked if there was anything in the zoning ordinance which pre-
cluded it. Pauly said that is inherent in the ordinance and the process
of acquiring a permit that the activity for which the permit is sought
not be potentially dangerous, and if it found that it is then the request
for the permit can be denied.
Redpath said he would have to believe that Captain Wall had good reason
to deny the request. Bentley said he was only trying to draw an analogy
between types of ordinances.
There was discussion as to what types of ammunition were used in various
weapons.
Pauly said he would suggest the Council , if it should determine the
request should be denied, give consideration to interpretation as well
as the saf�-ty factor.
MOTION: Tangen moved, seconded by Redpath, to deny the permit on the
basis that the characteristics of the weapons used and other public
safety factors deem such action necessary.
Anderson said since the City has a permit system, it would appear that
the City has a process under which permits could be revoked. Wall
said the Public Safety Department may issue a permit, the ordinance
does not say the Department shall issue a permit.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried unanimously.
4 MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Anderson , to establish a citizen's
committee to review the situation. The matter will be referred to Staff.
Wall suggested the original hunting committee be reconvened since most
of the members of that committee still feel they are members of a standing
committee.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried unanimously.
IX. REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
A. Repo ts _ f Council Members
Penzel - 1 . Expressed displeasure with the action taken at the November
TstCouncil Meeting regarding the location of Council meetings in 1984.
He said he would like to see the Council leave its options open. Bentley
said he would like to see the decision left to the City Manager. Tangen E
pointed out the discussion relative to the parking situation at the Community
Center. Anderson said he would not like to see the public inconvenienced
by the parking situation at the Community Center either.
MOTION: Tangen moved, seconded by Redpath, to hold meetings of the City
Council beginning with the January 3, 1984, meeting at the School Admini-
stration Building for a period of three months. Motion carried unanimously.
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2. Liquor License Terms and Method of Payment - Penzel said he would
like to explore the possiblity of splitting the liquor license fee
{ so that a could be paid in January with the second half then due in
June. He noted that this would make payment easier for some license
holders who find the $7500 fee difficult to come up with in January.
Bentley said he would like to know what the requirements are accord-
ing to State Statutes. He also suggested the City review what is
done by other cities in the metro area.
The matter was referred to City Attorney Pauly for his review.
B. Report of City Attorney
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C. Report of Cityi Manager
There was no report.
X. NEW BUSINESS
A. Lease Arrangement - Rosemount MIbB
Finance Director Frane reported this was a perfunctory matter and was
necessary due to new requirements.
MOTION: Tangen moved, seconded by Bentley, to approve the waiver
agreement. Motion carried unanimously.
XI . ADJOURNMENT
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MOTION: Redpath moved, seconded by Tangen, to adjourn the meeting at
10:33 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.
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