HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 11/05/1974 MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
Tuesday, November 5 a 1974 7:30 PM, City Hall
COUNCIL MEMBERS: Mayor David W. Osterholt , Joan
Meyers , John McCulloch, Wolfgang
Penzel, Sidney Pauly
COUNCIL STAFF: City Manager Robert Heinrich,
City Attorney Harlan Perbix,
City Engineer Carl Jullie ,
Clerk—Finance Director John Frane
Invocation was given by Pastor Fred Herzog, New Testament Church.
Pledge of Allegiance .
Roll Call.
I. MINUTES:
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A . Minutes of October 2.2, 1974 meeting were distributed jast
prior to meeting. Mayor Osterholt said to defer until s
the meeting to be held on November 12 , 1974• {
II . PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A . Flood Plain Ordinance , an ordinance designating the flood
plain, mars es, we ands, watercourses , and lands abutting
meandered lakes in the City and regulating the use and
development thereof. Modified Flood Plain Ordinance as
recommended by the Planning Commission was distributed
on 10/11/74.
Robert Heinrich asked if there was anyone present that
was interested and that Marty Jessen would be down shortly
to discuss it .
Mayor Osterholt stated since it was not an official
hearing , to proceed.
B. Crestwood 73 OutlotA , Alex Dorenkemper, request for
r7i"sion of Outi-otinto 3 lots and rezoning to R 1-22.
The site is located in southwestern Eden Prairie adjacent
to Crestwood Terrace in the Maplewood Estates single family
subdivision.
Robert Heinrich said Mr. Putnam would present this matter
before the Council. He said there is some misunderstanding
giving validity to Mr. Dorenkemper' s request for more lots
and Council should hear from Mr. Dorenkemper as to whether
there is continued interest on his behalf or could we expect
to see the other parcels of his coming before us for
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II. PUBLIC HEARINGS (Copt ' d. )
subdividing.
Mr. Dorenkemper stated approval is for full 39 lots .
Mr. Penzel stated it was not on the Agenda to go into the
matter of the other 36 lots.
Mr. Dorenkemper said he would ask for subdivision of the other
36 lots when these 3 lots were approved.
Mr. Putnam said he has met with Mr. Dorenkemper and Mr. Doren-
kemper' s question concerns previous planning action and as to
whether this is a planning problem or a legal problem. Mr. Putnam
mentioned the Planning Commission recommended 3 options.
Mayor Osterholt asked if anyone had any questions and for
Harlan Perbix' s comments concerning the requests before us
and to confine our comments to Outlot A and the 3 other lots.
Harlan Perbix stated it was a straightforward zoning question.
Also 9 since Mr. Putnam requested the Planning Commission to
ask his feelings as to whether all procedure was proper and if
not proper, was it secured by the Landhold Agreement , Mr. Perbix
said he would not do what is being requested for some period of
time . Mr. Perbix said Mr. Dorenkemper feels he should not wait .
Mrs. Pauly mentioned someone said approval would invalidate
Zoning Ordinance 135 .
Mr. Putnam stated Mr. Sorenson asked this question and it did
not invalidate that agreement . He further stated there are
two questions. First application was for lot rezoning. If
you divide it into j; acre lots and rezone to our R1-229 it
would involve our w> acre minimum. Also v Council should consider
what effect these 3 lots would have on other properties.
A discussion followed regarding other rezoning in area and
if approval would void Landhold Agreement.
Mr. Dorenkemper said he is not requesting rezoning from rural
to R1-22 S but rather that the City made a mistake and that
Ordinance 135 is improper zoning and should be rezoned.
Mr. Putnam said this type of rezoning has occurred before.
Mayor Osterholt asked Mr. Dorenkemper if he is actually asking
for rezoning and if they were not to divide the Outlot, would
he be here asking for the original Outlot.
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Mr. Dorenkemper stated if this happened, he would not have an
Outlot.
Mayor Osterholt asked if Outlot A was originally planned and
if it was sold as 3 lots.
Mr. Dorenkemper said, "Yes, it was. "
Mrs . Meyers questioned what effect the rezoning of these lots
would have on the Landhcld Agreement.
Mr. Perbix stated he didn't think the 3 lots would effect the
Landhold Agreement , but also doesn't think you can isolate as
some people may want to develop in that area.
Mrs . Pauly made the motion to approve the division of Outlot A
into 3 'lots and reaffirm the Landhold Agreement . McCulloch 1
seconded motion.
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Mayor Osterholt called for a roll call vote . Council Members
John McCulloch, Joan Meyers, Wolfgang Penzel, and Mayor Osterholt
voted against the motion and Sidney Pauly voted for the motion. 1
Motion was defeated.
Mayor Osterholt moved to close the Public Hearing and Joan
Meyers seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
III. PETITIONS , REQUESTS & CONIMUNICATIONS :
A. Corrununication from Rosemount Inc. ,, dated 10/21/74., regarding
Ring 11oute Phase I sTcclal assessments .
Mayor Osterholt made motion to file . Mr. Penzel seconded
motion. Motion carried.
B. Communication from Bradley Steinman Worth Oil Com an
(Holiday a ion ,.,cores, Inc . ) a e , regarding
Council consideration of their rezoning request .
Mr. Steinman stated they are not asking for something out
of line with zoning for that area and he was under the
impression the land was zoned commercial until they received
Mr. Putnam° s letter stating due to some slip, the land was
untouched by commercial zoning. He didn't know if it was
an error,, deliberate, or deemed unnecessary. They are
requesting rezoning to commercial as they handle some
merchandise , although most of business is selling gas ( 80%)
and the rest ( 20%) is selling merchandise. They do not
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III. PETITIONS , REQUESTS & CONZVJNICATIONS : (Copt ' d. )
They do not plan any reconstruction at present time.
Building will retain its current design with exception
of "Holiday" sign. They plan no big changes on the
corner, just wish to operate as a Holiday station. He
showed Council a drawing of property. He said in 2 years ,
they plan to add a 40' x 42' addition, but at present just
want to operate as it is being operated now. He said the
Mini-Sector Study of 4 & 5 will not be presented until
December 9. 1974. However as they are planning to buy
the location, they need approval so they can exercise
their option. He asked lair. Putnam why Planning Commission
marked off this corner on zoning map.
Mr. Putnam said map is merely graphic portrayal and the
mistake is on the zoning map, not the text.
Mr. Penzel asked if they couldn' t wait for the study to
be completed and then plan.
Mr. Steinman said the owner wants to back out of agreement
and they need to know if it is worth their money to gamble
on the property being approved for selling merchandise.
Mr. Putnam stated there will be a Planning Commission
meeting on November 11, 1974.
Mayor Osterholt stated that apparently there is a variance
between the map and text of Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Perbix stated it was an unusual legal description,
but more accidental than deliberate .
Mayor Osterholt said Council was not prepared to give a
decision and the matter is to be continued until they
have further reports from the Planning Commission on
the 4 & 5 Mini-Sector Planning Study. F
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C . Communication from Dr. James Osberg and Dr. AnthonyPesola
requesting approval o rent approximately 750 square reet
of space in the building located at 7770 Mitchell Road for
use as a dental office.
Mr. Heinrich said there is some confusion as to the category
of Office-Warehouse zoning. The owners think the building
can be used for other offices as well as the office in
conjunction with the warehouse operation. The City Mana-
ger proposed clarification of this cate&ory to clear the r
situation. Mr. Heinrich wanted to meetwith the owners for
a discussion, but Mr. Dietrich is out of town and his
attorney, John Crouch, was not available, but they do
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III. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COP-IMUNICATIONS: (Cony d. }
support the dentists' request. Also$ Mr. Heinrich felt
2 more dentists on a temporary basis would not create a
hardship on the City.
Mr. Perbix said he called Mr. Dietrich to set up a meeting
and Mr. Dietrich will return his call when he gets back in
town. Mr. Perbix also stated under the Cade, that office
is to be used with warehouse operation and there are differ-
ent requirements for office buildings and office-warehouse
buildings. He thought it could have something to do with
the public using the building. He said owners should be ;
here to participate in the agreement as to how the building
is to be used.
Dr. Osborn said he and Dr. Pesola are residents of Eden
Prairie and have been dealing for space for a year, but
have; been misled. They have money invested in equipment
and need approval before signing a lease . They are ready
to go and need approval now. He said they have Mr. Dietrich'
support .
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A discussion followed regarding the need for this type of
r office and the lack of space available. Also, the fact
r,. there are two dentists in the building now and an agreement
should be made with the owners regarding temporary use for
office space or ro zoning.
Dr. Posola said as there arc no other buildings available ,
they arc requesting temporary use for a period of four years.
Dr. Osburg says he is requesting use now due to Mr. Die-
trich' s letter just received by the Council.
Mrs . Meyers moved they approve property occupancy for lease
of three years contingent upon owner of building either
requesting proper zoning or agreeing not to renew lease
for a similar type of activity.
McCulloch seconded motion. Motion was carried. .
Mrs . Pauly said we should take a look at integrity of zoning.
Do we need to protect industrial site. What about "quasi
public' wording in the Ordinance . She suggested taking
another look at "quasi public" and what permitted uses.
She stated we need more rational or more reasons.
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IV. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS:
A . 2nd Reading of Resolution No. 247 rezoning the approximate
seven acm- site for the Now Testament Church from rural to
PUD.
Mrs. Meyers asked if they were able to work out a different
road access.
Mr. Perbix replied that there was no change in road access .
Mrs . Meyers moved for second reading of 247.
Motion was seconded. Motion carried.
B. 2nd Readin& of Ordinance No. 271 rezoning the property from
Highway/Commercialand Ruralo 1-2 Park.
Mr. Perbix stated the property is now divided and that
Ordinance No. 271 covers both A & B rezoning , but two agree-
ments will be necessary.
Mr. Pcnzel moved to approve second reading of Ordinance No.271
and to withhold agreement for publication until rezoning
agreement is signed and in hand.
Mrs . Pauly seconded the motion. Motion carried.
V. REPORTS OF OFFICERS9 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS:
A . Report of Finance Director
1. Clerk° s License List.
Mayor Ostcrholt moved to approve .
Motion made for approval by Mr. Penzel,
McCulloch seconded. Motion carried.
VI. Nal BUSINESS
A. Call for a special meeting for November 7 at 7:15 PM at Eden
Prairie- i c o0l Board Room Eor the purpose or tne Council
o m ot as a canvassing oar for the regular City election
hold Tuesday, November 5.
Mrs. Meyers moved to hold a special meeting November 7.
Mr. Pc:nzel approved. McCulloch seconded. Motion carried.
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VI. NEK BUSINESS (Cont ' d. )
B. Public Safety Vehicle Specifications
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Mr. Heinrich discussed what kind of vehicle was available *
Mr. Hacking asked for permission to ask for bids for a fire
truck. He stated they can save $3000 by purchasing a repo-
ssessed 974 vehicle in excellent condition. Delivery would
be immediate.
Mr. P---,nzol asked several questions regarding specifications
on public safety vehicles and questioned Mr. Hacking about
size of engine,, requirements and so forth.
Mr. Hacking responded.
Mrs. Meyers made motion for now or used fire truck chassis
as outlined in specifications be opened to bid.
Seconded by Mr. Penzel. Motion carried.
Mr. Penzel suggested wording be changed on specifications for
the two public service vohicles regarding gaugosp alternator,
ff torquot dimensions , etc. He stated a high-powered car was
not necessary,
Officer Wall explained need for high-powered vehicle . Said
they have crack people with real talent and need the equip-
ment for them to do their job properly.
A discussion followed with Officer Wall responding to the
questions of the Council members .
Mr. Penzel moved for approval of letting of bids for 2 public
safety vehicles as per amends specifications.
Mrs. Pauly seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Mr. Penzel suggested brief discussion should be given to
air support structure to cover ice skating facilities .
Mr. Penzel suggested a replacement be made for person repre-
senting School Board on Park and Roe. Committee .
Mrs. Meyers suggested nominations be made for Chemical Abuse
Committee Chairman.
II . PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A . Flood Plain Ordinance.
Marty Jossen arrived and the discussion began.
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II. PUBLIC HEARINGS: (Cont ' d. )
A . Flood Plain Ordinance
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The discussion was interrupted by John Franc requesting }
confirmation of 3 counters for Precinct 2. `
Mrs. Pauly mszde motion to approve the counters.
Mr. Penzel seconded the motion. Motion carried.
After the approval of the counters, the discussion continued
on the Flood Plain Ordinance with Mr. Jessen responding to
questions regarding terminology and meaning of various phrases i
in Ordinance by the Council members.
Mrs . Meyer moved to adopt the first reading of Ordinance
No . 276.
Motion was seconded and carried.
Mrs . Meyers mentioned she thought the Flood Plain Ordinance
should be incorporated into the Zoning Ordinance and thought
Messrs. Jessen, Perbix and Putnam should look into the value
of the above.
Mr. Heinrich presented some additional new business to the
Council. He stated the new charge for subscribers to the
Minutes and Agendas of the Council meetings must be $30 per
year in place of $15 per year due to increased costs. The
Planning and Zoning Commission Minutes and Agendas remained
at $15 per year. He stated he had placed advertisements and
he had only one applicant to date .
The meeting was adjourned at 10: 55 PM.