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EDEN PRAIRIE TOWN MEETING—PARKS REFERENDUM
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2005 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
CITY COUNCIL: Councilmembers Brad Aho, Sherry Butcher, Ron Case, and Philip Young.
Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens was absent.
PARKS, RECREATION,AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MEMBERS:
Chair Rob Barrett, Vice-Chair Jeff Gerst, Commission Members Tom Bierman, John Brill, and
Ian Mackay.
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal, Parks & Recreation Director Bob Lambert, Council
Recorder Deb Sweeney.
I. ROLL CALL/CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Councilmember Case called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and welcomed citizens and
people watching at home. He explained the proceedings would be broadcast live and re-
broadcast to help all citizens be informed about the referendum questions and the tax
impacts.
II. PARKS REFERENDUM INFORMATION
Parks & Recreation Director Bob Lambert gave a short presentation describing the thought
process behind offering a new referendum and giving details on the questions and their tax
impacts. Following the failed parks referendum in May 2004, the City surveyed a random
sample of yes and no voters to find out why it failed. Voters said they did not like having a
single question, they did not want an outdoor aquatic center, and the referendum was too
expensive. However, 69% of"yes" voters and even 44% of"no" voters supported the City
coming back with another referendum within two years. Citizens said the referendum
should be held at a November election in a year when there is no school referendum,
should be for less money, not include a water park, target favored projects, and be broken
into parts to permit choice. Favored projects included trails, the community center,
replacing the warming houses, providing matching funds to athletic associations,
improving the Flying Cloud fields, and acquiring parkland.
As a result of this feedback, the Parks and Recreation Commission and the City Council
developed a four-question referendum, which will be put to the voters this November:
Question 1 for Community Center Improvements at a cost of $6.6 million. Lambert
explained many of these items had been in the original concept plans when the Community
Center was built in 1979, but cut due to cost concerns. Lambert said many people had
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regretted that decision ever since. The funds would install a walking and running track
over one of the hockey rinks, improve the lobby and concession areas, expand the locker
rooms, improve and expand team rooms, and add gym space. The tax impact would be
about$25 per year for the average ($339,000)household.
Question 2 for Community Center pool improvements at a cost of $3.3 million.
Lambert explained the current Community Center pool does not meet the community's
needs. Recent changes in national standards mean that its 3.5-foot depth is inadequate for
swimmers diving off starting blocks. As a result, swim meets can no longer be held there.
In addition, the current pool does not meet the needs of recreational swimmers.
Competitive swimmers prefer a deep, cool, fast pool. Recreational swimmers are looking
for warm water and a zero depth entry to accommodate small children and seniors. With
the baby boomers entering their senior years, there is increased demand for water exercise
that is easy on joints. The referendum would deepen the existing pool to 4.5 feet to
accommodate competitive swimming and add a small, zero-depth entry warm water
recreational pool. The tax impact on the average home would be $13.00 per year.
Question 3 for Parks Improvements at a cost of $4.7 million. Lambert explained this
question would provide updates for community and neighborhood parks. The biggest
projects would be at Forest Hills, Edenvale, Prairie View, and Flying Cloud fields. At
Forest Hills, the park would be reconfigured to better use the space. The warming house
would be rebuilt nearer the road to prevent vandalism and the rink relocated next to it. A
"cut-through"road would be eliminated to promote safety. A baseball field would also be
added and more space created for playground equipment. At Edenvale, the park would be
reconfigured as well. A new warming house would be built and the rink moved. The plan
would also eliminate one of the two parking lots and add a soccer field and basketball
court. The playground equipment would be updated. At Prairie View, the warming house
would be replaced. Lambert explained the warming houses and park shelters had been
subject to vandalism and had been temporary, "two-car garage" structures. Plans for
Flying Cloud fields would add two baseball fields and four soccer fields. The cost for an
average home would be about$16.00 per year.
Question 4 for Trails Improvements at a cost of $2 million. Lambert explained that
implementing the City's full trail plan would cost $5 million. This referendum, for $2
million, would make substantial progress toward completing the system. The first phase of
trail construction in 1978 focused on creating trails along county roads, but in some
"expensive" places construction was stopped. County Road 4 north of Purgatory Creek is
one example. Sidewalks and trails in the Major Center Area are another area of need.
Developers in recent years have been required to include sidewalks, but there are many
older parcels that need to be connected to that system. With all the residential
development in the area now, it is important to make the area walkable and safe. The City
would also replace some old substandard trails that were put in by developers before the
City had adequate standards and inspections. The cost for an average home would be
$7.00 per year.
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Lambert opened the floor for questions and comments from the public.
Vicki Olson of 6510 Manchester Lane asked if the Forest Hills reconfiguration would
generate any additional traffic on Tanager Lane. Lambert said if anything, traffic would
decrease. The "cut-through" road would be eliminated. In addition, the new parking will
be on the school side of the park and there will be no entrance or parking off Tanager.
A resident asked what the impact on a $200,000 home would be. Butcher said the total tax
impact for all four questions would be $35/year.
Cameron Mackay of 17859 George Moran Drive asked where the new trails would go, and
if there would be a biking trail. Lambert said there would be trails north on County 4 to
connect from Purgatory Creek to Birch Island Woods, sidewalks in the Major Center Area,
updates of trails in the southeast corner of Eden Prairie, and access to the Minnesota River
Valley at Riverview Road with an underpass under Highway 212. Mackay asked if the
gravel LRT trail would be paved. Lambert explained this is LRT property managed by the
Three Rivers Parks District. There are no plans to pave it.
Jan Anderson of 6519 Manchester Lane asked Lambert to explain why the warming houses
were so expensive, almost as expensive as a house. Lambert agreed the cost seems high
but that is what they cost. To withstand the use and abuse they get, the warming houses
are built with rock base block. They are insulated and require public, ADA-compliant
restrooms and access. They are designed to last 50 years. Lambert said the City often gets
14 or 15 bids so the cost is competitive.
A resident from 14001 Chestnut Drive asked about operating costs for heating the warming
houses. Lambert said the City anticipates heating costs will go up and has allowed for that
in the budget. The City still wants to provide the service,however.
XV. ADJOURNMENT
Case invited citizens to contact Councilmembers with any questions about the
referendum. The meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.