HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 04/12/2005 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY,APRIL 12, 2005 7:00 PM, EDEN PRAIRIE LIBRARY
565 PRAIRIE CENTER DRIVE
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens, Councilmembers Brad Aho, Sherry Butcher,
Ron Case, and Philip Young
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal, Parks & Recreation Director Bob Lambert, Public
Works Director Eugene Dietz, City Planner Michael Franzen, Community Development Director
Janet Jeremiah, City Attorney Roger Pauly and Council Recorder Deb Sweeney
I. ROLL CALL/CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Tyra-Lukens called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. All members were present.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. COUNCIL FORUM INVITATION
IV. PROCLAMATIONS
A. ARBOR DAY—MAY 7, 2005
Mayor Tyra-Lukens read the Arbor Day Proclamation. Case noted that due to
Eden Prairie's past as a prairie/savanna, there are more trees in Eden Prairie now
than at any time in its history. He commended tree planting efforts.
B. NATIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK
Councilmember Case read the National Public Safety Telecommunicators
Proclamation.
V. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
Butcher added an update on the Community Development Block Grants to Reports of
Councilmembers. Case requested an update on the airport from Neal and added his own
item to discuss conducting a follow-up to the Senior Task Force under Reports of
Councilmembers.
MOTION: Young moved, seconded by Butcher, to approve the Agenda as published
and amended. Motion carried 5-0.
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VI. MINUTES
A. JOINT CITY COUNCIL/SCHOOL BOARD MEETING HELD TUESDAY,
MARCH 7, 2005
B. JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PARKS RECREATION AND NATURAL
RESOURCES COMMISSION MEETING HELD TUESDAY, MARCH 7,
2005
C. COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD TUESDAY, MARCH 15, 2005
D. CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD TUESDAY, MARCH 15, 2005
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Butcher, to approve all four of the minutes listed
above as published. Motion carried 5-0.
VII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CLERK'S LICENSE LIST
B. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-51 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
HERITAGE PINES
C. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-52 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
EAGLE RIDGE AT HENNEPIN VILLAGE FIVE
D. APPROVE HTPO PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR
FLYING CLOUD DRIVE OUTSIDE STORAGE PROJECT
E. APPROVE TERMINATION OF TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENT AND
SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS FOR ADC
F. APPROVE OLYMPIC HILLS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AGREEMENT
G. AUTHORIZE PREPARATION OF PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS AND
BIDS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF FULL ACCESS TO THE PURGATORY
CREEK RECREATION AREA
H. APPROVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SUBCONTRACTOR FOR
GARDEN ROOM
I. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-53 DECLARING PROPERTY AS
"ABANDONED PROPERTY"
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Case, to approve items A-I of the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
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VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MEETINGS
A. HENNEPIN VILLAGE GUIDE PLAN CHANGE OFFICE TO LOW AND
MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL by Dan Herbst, Hennepin Village LP.
Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from office to low-medium
density residential on 17 acres. Planned Unit Development Concept Amendment
on 17 acres. Location: North of T.H. 212, east of Spring Road. (Resolution No.
2005-54 for Guide Plan Change, Resolution No. 2005-55 for PUD Concept
Review, Ordinance for PUD District Review and Zoning District
Amendment)
City Manager Scott Neal stated the official notice of this City was published in
the March 31, 2005, Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to 49 property owners.
Neal shared the following reasons to consider the guide plan change:
• The housing is a transfer of 43 units displaced from the approved plan by
either noise zones or wetlands.
• The site is not in noise zone 60 or 65.
• The homes would be designed to meet interior noise standards.
• The housing site sits at an elevation lower than the airport, and views of the
airport are limited.
• Housing generates less traffic than office.
• The PUD has 51 acres left for office and commercial uses which can provide
employment/services in close proximity to housing.
He noted the following reasons to not consider the guide plan change:
• The project is inconsistent with the comprehensive plan.
• The project is inconsistent with the approved PUD.
• Additional housing located close to the existing airport.
• Office provides a better transition between the airport and housing to the
south.
• The proposed housing does not meet a senior or affordable housing goal.
• Loss of employment(approximately 1,000 jobs.)
Neal reported the approved PUD identified an office use of the site but not a
specific number. The traffic study for the PUD estimated a building square
footage,based on City code requirements for this site to be 152,000 square feet.
This number was used to estimate traffic generation in order to determine what
road improvements would be needed.
Community Development Director Janet Jeremiah added she is continuing to
work with the developer and West Hennepin Affordable Housing Land Trust to
try to resolve the affordable housing issue.
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Tyra-Lukens asked Jeremiah if she had approached West Hennepin Affordable
Housing Land Trust about the sustainability of affordable housing after resale.
Jeremiah said this depends on the agency. The WHAHLT Project only sells to
people who meet affordability criteria. If we go with another agency this may be
an issue.
Aho asked if Jeremiah had considered the possibility of residents complaining
about airport noise later. Jeremiah stated the City is required to disclose noise
zones, both as the airport stands now and after expansion. Neal added, while he
couldn't promise there would be no future complaints, other housing is already
located in a higher noise zone, and the topography of the site should also mitigate
noise.
Butcher recalled other projects, east of T.H. 212, that also had disclaimers, and
Jeremiah confirmed the City is required to provide such disclaimers whether the
housing is technically in a noise zone or not. Butcher stated disclaimers must be
effective since there have been fewer complaints. Tyra-Lukens noted the problem
is with resale. Jeremiah confirmed the disclaimer does not follow the property
and is given to the first owner only. Tyra-Lukens explained the City couldn't
attach the disclaimer to future sales because of County filing requirements.
Young sought clarification of the status of the affordable housing, and Jeremiah
stated that further information would be brought before the Council at a future
meeting. Young noted while the Plan Trust provides a mechanism for an
affordable component, it is harder to sustain with owner-occupied housing.
Young inquired if the City has a general policy regarding houses near the airport.
Jeremiah stated the City mitigates the airport noise as much as possible through
the Comprehensive Plan. Two other policies are to disclose noise zones to new
property owners and to require insulation to reduce interior noise. Young asked if
the City had ever turned down a development based on noise.
Neal said he couldn't remember any,but noted Staff work behind the scenes to
discourage questionable projects before they come to a vote. Butcher added the
Metropolitan Airport Council(MAC)has sometimes not approved projects even
when the City Council did. Case expressed frustration at this de facto zoning. He
noted the MAC could just buy the land,but they don't.
There were no comments from the public.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young, to close the Public Hearing; and
adopt the Resolution for Guide Plan Change from Office to Low-Medium Density
residential; and adopt the Resolution for Planned Unit Development Concept
Amendment on 17 acres; and direct staff to prepare a development agreement
incorporating staff and board recommendations and council conditions. Motion
carried 5-0.
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B. COLUMBINE ROAD ADDITION by City of Eden Prairie. Request for
Preliminary plat of 31.49 acres into one lot, three outlots and road right-of-way
for Columbine Road. Location: Columbine Road and Prairie Center Drive.
(Resolution No. 2005-56 for Preliminary Plat)
Neal stated the official notice of this City was published in the March 31, 2005,
Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to 26 property owners.
Neal noted the City acquired this land parcel from the State as a Conveyance of
Forfeited Lands in February of 2002.
Tyra-Lukens asked for clarification on whether this is wetland now, or a wetland
restoration. Dietz explained the largest parcel, a 21-acre outlot on the southwest
side of Columbine Road, is currently wetland and carved off for a conservation
easement.
Tyra-Lukens inquired about the projected completion date for the Columbine
Road project. Dietz said the end of this construction season.
There were no comments from the public.
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Butcher, to close the Public Hearing; and
adopt the Resolution for a Preliminary Plat of 31.49 acres into one lot, three
outlots and road right-of-way. Motion carried 5-0.
C. THE RIDGE AT RILEY CREEK by EPIC Development. Request for Planned
Unit Development Concept Review on 42.22 acres. Planned Unit Development
District Review with waivers on 42.22 acres. Zoning District Change from Rural
to R1-13.5 on 42.22 acres. Preliminary Plat of 42.22 acres into 39 lots, two outlots
and road right-of-way. Location: North and west of the Sky Lane, south and east
of Riley Creek. (Resolution No. 2005-57 for PUD Concept Review, Ordinance
for PUD District Review and Zoning District Change, Resolution No. 2005-58
for Preliminary Plat)
Official notice of this City was published in the March 31, 2005, Eden Prairie
Sun Current and sent to 223 property owners.
Neal explained this project is for 39 single-family lots on 42.22 acres consistent
with the Comprehensive Guide Plan for low-density residential development.
Neal noted the development is consistent with the existing and proposed
expanded Flying Cloud Airport. A small portion of what would be safety zone B
(limited development) overlays the most easterly side of the property based on an
expanded airport. All homes are located outside the safety zone. Noise zones are
based on noise contours determined from forecasted aircraft operations at the
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airport are shown as DNL 60 and DNL 65 contours. Neither of these contours
overlay the property based on the existing or an expanded airport.
Because of the current and future projected number of aircraft over-flights to
occur in this area, the developer will need to provide a disclosure statement to all
first homeowners in the development advising of the proposed airport expansion
and associated over-flights. In addition, each home will need to be designed and
constructed to provide for an interior noise reduction to 45 dBA,based on the
Metropolitan Council's Builder Guide. Neal described this as similar to the
Hennepin Village development.
Jeremiah added Scott Kipp from the planning division asked her to make a
correction to his statements in the Planning Commission meeting. Kipp had
stated that overflights over this project would be reduced if the airport were
expanded. He wished to note that, due to projected re-routing to protect sensitive
wildlife areas, overflights would in fact increase if the airport expands.
Case asked where the City land is located that is slated for a trail along Riley
Creek. Parks & Recreation Director Bob Lambert said he would have the precise
location in two weeks, after walking the site with citizens and planners. With
land dedicated 100 feet back from the creek, there will be sufficient land for a
trail. The developer will do the trailhead.
Case asked how the City could protect the 150-foot buffer to the creek, comparing
the issue to Purgatory Creek. Lambert said there will be lot markers on the back
of the lots,but also noted these tend to "disappear" after a while, as homeowners
do not like them. Case asked if there would be any inexpensive way to fence off
the area. Lambert said he wouldn't recommend fencing, as it would be preferable
to have a natural corridor. He also suggested when the trail goes in,homeowners
will want the markers to keep trail users off their property and hence be less likely
to remove them.
Case referenced issues with the Big Woods development, and asked if the back lot
lines appeared straight for this development, or if they needed to be adjusted.
Lambert said the westernmost lot had a jog that needed correction,but the rest
were straight.
MOTION: Butcher moved, seconded by Case, to close the Public Hearing; and
adopt the Resolution for Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 42.22
acres; and approve 1 st Reading of the Ordinance for Planned Unit Development
District Review with waivers, and Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5
on 42.22 acres; and adopt the Resolution for Preliminary Plat on 42.22 acres into
39 lots, two outlots and road right-of-way; and Direct Staff to prepare a
Development Agreement incorporating Staff and Commission recommendations
and Council conditions. Motion carried 5-0.
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IX. PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Butcher, to approve Payment of Claims as
submitted. The motion was approved on a roll call vote with Aho, Butcher, Case,
Young, and Tyra-Lukens voting "aye."
X. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
XI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. SPONSORSHIP PROGRAM FOR EDEN PRAIRIE COMMUNITY
THEATRE
Sandy Werts, Recreation Coordinator, Arts and Special Events, addressed the
Council to seek approval of a sponsorship initiative. The Community Theater,
which is a program of the Parks and Recreation Department, is inviting
community businesses to sponsor a night at the summer musical, which will be
The Pajama Game this year. The performance dates are June 17, 18, 19, 24, 25
and 26. For givers of$1,000 or more, the Community Theater would like to offer
a benefit package that would include free use of the Staring Lake Park building
from 4 to 10 p.m. for a pre- and post-musical get-together,reserving two row of
seating—for up to 40 people at the amphitheater and reserved parking for 20 cars.
Werts noted since the performances and the parking are free, it's harder to think
of sponsorship benefits. Since the performances and parking are typically packed
to capacity, the Community Theater thought these benefits might be attractive.
Butcher approved the idea and noted it would be easy for the City to do. Aho
concurred.
Lambert questioned the parking. He said is would be difficult to mark and
enforce, especially since the performances are so popular and people come early.
He recommended the reserved spots be near the building, not near the
amphitheater.
Lambert also informed the Council that sections of the amphitheater that are
rotting will be removed and replaced this summer by summer youth work crews.
So there might be more pressure on seating this year as well.
Lambert noted he had asked the Community Theater to look at ways to lower its
subsidy, so he appreciated the idea. He stated,however, it's important not to
create bad feeling.
Tyra-Lukens asked when the amphitheater work would begin. Lambert said it
would start as soon as school lets out, maybe June 15"'. They could potentially
wait,but then other performances would be affected.
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Tyra-Lukens stated the parking would be a headache to enforce, requiring
vouchers or a list. If sponsors paid for parking and it was not available, that
would create bad feeling. It might be less of a problem if they arrive at 4:00 p.m.
to use the building anyway.
Butcher commented that the parking really sweetens the deal.
Werts confirmed the Community Theater would reserve the spots closest to the
park building.
There were no comments from the public.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Aho, to approve the Sponsorship Benefits
package established by the Eden Prairie Community Theater. Motion carried 5-
0.
XII. REPORTS OF ADVISORY BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
XIII. APPOINTMENTS
XIV. REPORTS OF OFFICERS
A. REPORTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS
1. Community Development Block Grant Federal Funding Restored—
Councilmember Butcher
Butcher shared a follow up on the success of advocacy during the National
League of Cities meeting in Washington. She noted federal funding of
Community Development Block Grants had been slated for cuts of 25 to
33 percent. These grants were instituted about 30 years ago to help cities
develop in a number of positive ways, including job generation, affordable
housing, and promoting economic investment. She reported, with the help
of Senator Coleman, the bill was amended to keep funding at the same
level and to keep the program under HUD, which was also desirable. The
bill passed 66-31. This was a huge victory for Eden Prairie. The bill still
has to go through conference committee and be signed by the president.
Butcher stated advocates for the grant are fairly confident that will happen.
Case praised the victory but also noted concerns that the victory of the
Community Development Block Grants might mean unfavorable changes
in Section 8 funding. He emphasized the work in Washington is not done.
2. Report on the Airport from the City Manager—Requested Update
from Councilmember Case
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Neal reported meeting with two citizens on March 11 to discuss questions
of the implementation of the agreement between MAC and Eden Prairie.
As a result of that meeting, Neal decided it would be beneficial to audit
the entire agreement and evaluate compliance of all parties—MAC, the
City,pilots, and owners. Neal said Scott Kipp would coordinate the audit
with the assistance of City Attorney Ric Rosow and possibly consultant
Dan Remer, whom the City has used before as a special counsel. MAC has
been informed of the audit and agreed to cooperate.
Case added there are three changes in the area of aviation that could affect
the City. A new Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) ruling this year
might weaken the City's agreement regarding pavement depth. In
addition, Northwest Airlines is looking at land use at reliever airports, and
Anoka is considering municipal airport ownership.
3. Proposal for Update to the Senior Task Force—Councilmember Case
Case noted the findings of the Senior Task Force, conducted nine years
ago,have greatly impacted the City's efforts to get senior housing. He
proposed the City might want to spend two months on a quick update of
the Task Force's work. Demographics and needs are continuing to
change. According to demographic projections, seniors in Eden Prairie
might exceed the K-12 population in the future. Case reported he has had
community interest in serving on such a task force. He asked
Councilmembers for their opinions.
Tyra-Lukens recalled in 1995, there was very little senior housing in Eden
Prairie. Today, the City has luxury senior housing that includes athletic
and other amenities, reducing the need for City services somewhat. She
supported taking another look at the needs of seniors.
Case suggested focusing on walkability as a senior issue. He noted
seniors living near the mall have complained about unfinished trails, and
that pedestrian access to the mall is difficult for the young and robust, let
alone seniors.
Tyra-Lukens agreed since the City now has housing options for seniors, it
might makes sense to focus on what the City can do to be more senior-
friendly to the seniors already living here.
Case explained he was thinking of updating the demographic data, asking
whether seniors liked the available housing options, and asking about
other needs such as the senior center. He thought doing this every ten
years or so made sense.
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Butcher noted seniors' housing needs go across a continuum of care, from
cooperatives to assisted living to acute care. She stated twenty years from
now, 25 percent of Minnesota's residents would be age 65 or older. It
behooves us to think about the impacts on services and facilities and stay
ahead of the curve.
Aho asked for clarification on the deliverables of the Senior Task Force
update, and what outcomes the City could expect from it.
Case emphasized he envisioned this as a quick update. He envisioned the
Task Force delivering a demographic update, the result of fact-finding and
focus groups on present and future needs, and ideas about the evolving
Senior Center. Case noted the first Senior Task Force had really focused
the council nine years ago on senior housing and transportation needs. He
stated,however, the Council needs to charge the Task Force very
specifically or they will spend two years.
Neal offered to discuss the Senior Task Force Update with Jeremiah and to
come back to the Council with a timeline and charter statement. Case also
requested a list of outcomes for the council to review.
B. REPORT OF CITY MANAGER
1. April 26 Closed Session for Annual Performance Review
Neal reminded the Council the April 26 meeting would end in closed
session for his annual performance review.
2. Request to Reference Past Resolution to Add Mayors to MAC
Advisory Council
Neal explained a new bill is in the Senate Transportation Committee to
add mayors to the MAC Advisory Council. The City Council passed a a
similar bill last year, as it would allow mayors a seat at the table to
understand the issues. Neal stated he did not have time to draft a new
resolution,but requested permission to reference the former one on the
same topic. Tyra-Lukens assented.
C. REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
1. MCA Open House
Jeremiah announced the MCA would hold its first Open House on
Wednesday, April 27, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. at the Eden Prairie
Library. The purpose is to allow residents and business to learn about and
give input on the long-distance vision (through 2030) for the area bounded
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by the Prairie Center Drive/Valley View ring road. The goal is to balance
residential and business interests. All property owners in the 1000-acre
area will receive a postcard inviting them to the event. Attendees will be
able talk to Staff about land use and transit issues.
Jeremiah noted preliminary discussions with residents of Summit Place
and The Colony have indicated way-finding and directional signage are an
issue. She said there have been some blue-sky ideas and others that are
implementable now.
D. REPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
1. Referendum Considerations
Parks and Recreation Director Bob Lambert presented options for a parks
referendum, including recommendations from the Citizen Study Committee
and Staff. He noted at the joint meeting of the Parks Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission and the City Council, the City Council
requested additional information prior to making any decisions on a
referendum. The City Council specifically wanted a list of all of the
proposed projects that are being considered for at least the next five years
and the estimated construction costs, as well as the estimated additional
operating costs for any of those improvements. These projects fall into
three categories: Community Center Improvements (including possible
swimming pool improvements), Park Acquisition and Improvement, and
Trail Improvements.
Lambert began with Community Center Improvements. He stated for this
project, the plan is to do just what the Citizen Study Committee said to
do—to bond out some of the costs to reduce costs to taxpayers. He
presented three schemes for doing this, each with different costs.
Lambert presented scheme A as the most basic option. He altered the
proposal slightly to present it without a deeper pool, at a cost of$6.6
million, which would be funded by referendum. This would cover a multi-
use gym, improved and expanded locker areas, a new lobby, better access
control, expanded ice rink bleacher seating with team and storage rooms
underneath, a concessions area, and a greatly expanded fitness center, five
to six times the size of the current facility.
In addition, Scheme A would include the addition of an indoor playspace,
at a cost of$540,000, to be funded by revenue bonds. Lambert noted Edina
was able to pay off its revenue bonds for their playspace in just seven
months, and most communities have been able to cover their costs within
two years. A general benchmark for a good investment is a five year
payback. Lambert said he wanted to consult other cities that have indoor
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play areas to see what elements they need to be successful, for example, the
option for parents to have their children supervised in the play area while
they work out.
Scheme A would also include an outdoor fun pool, to be funded by
$900,000 in revenue bonds. This would be a zero-depth entry pool for pre-
swimmers,reaching a maximum depth of about three feet, with lots of play
opportunities such as fountains and plenty of deck space. Lambert stated
this type of pool is also a revenue generator. Since adding a play pool to
their outdoor pool complex, Edina has realized $200,000 per year in profit.
Lambert said more study is needed to determine if a play pool would be a
revenue generator outside the setting of a larger outdoor pool like Edina's.
He would only recommend the play pool if it could be done with revenue
bonds for construction and operation.
Lambert also discussed the possibility of a third sheet of ice at the
Community Center, constructed outside under a metal shed roof to reduce
costs, and funded by bonds and donations from the Hockey Association at a
total cost of two million. It would not have walls constructed in this phase.
The rink would need to be funded by a combination of revenue bonds and
funding from the Hockey Association, which has $250,000 in cash and
$250,000 additional committed to the project. Lambert said a balanced
agreement would have to be worked out between upfront cash from the
Hockey Association, and higher ice time fees to pay off the bonds. The
rink might be used as a summer skate park or covered with Astroturf for
indoor soccer and lacrosse.
Young asked how it was decided what would be funded through bonds
versus a referendum. Lambert explained amenities that have a track record
of paying for their construction and operation are appropriate for bonding.
The City must demonstrate to a bond salesman that these projects are a
good investment.
Young asked how the bonding process fits into the entire referendum
package. Lambert stated the details of the bonding would all be worked
out before the referendum. Neal described bond salesmen as investment
bankers looking for an investment that can generate revenue.
Young then asked whether the City would have to hire an architect or make
other outlays before meeting with bond salesmen. Lambert said the project
could be pitched on a conceptual level with the drawings they have,plus
additional information requested. Neal added the bond salesman also
contributes advice to the project, which is free.
Young asked for clarification of how the revenue from the bonded
amenities would be determined. Lambert responded the City would need
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to figure out how to allocate revenues, through daily use fees for different
amenities or different membership packages.
Aho questioned the $2 million cost for the rink and wondered if it were
really that high. Lambert confirmed this was a good number.
Aho then asked about the deepening of the pool. Lambert used this
question to transition into a discussion of expanded pool options at the
Community Center, laid out in Schemes B and C.
Lambert stated the original Scheme A for the Community Center had
contained an additional $300,000 to deepen the existing pool. With highly
competitive teams and about 250-300 swimmers, Eden Prairie has a strong
competitive swimming community. As the plan progressed,however, it
became apparent that deepening the pool was not without its drawbacks.
While a deeper pool would be better for competitive swimming, it would
be worse for recreational swimming, swimming lessons, and water
aerobics. Lambert noted the Community Center receipts for swimming
lessons are already down from$80,000 at its opening to $50,000 today,
mainly due to private competition which offers a warm water pool,
appealing to the lucrative preschool swimming market. A deeper pool
would reduce those receipts still more. Lambert recommended the existing
pool should only be deepened if the City has another recreational pool that
is shallow and warm.
Aho asked if a deepened pool might generate more revenues from
competitive swimmers. Lambert said no, since the pool is already used to
its full capacity.
Case inquired whether Oak Point might be usable as the recreational, warm
water pool option. With declining enrollments, he wondered if the school
district might not need that building in the future. Lambert questioned
whether it made sense to take a recreational pool out of the Community
Center. Case asked if competitive swimming could take over Oak Point
instead. Lambert noted Oak Point is not next to the high school. He stated
the pool question is the most difficult aspect of the Community Center
expansion,because citizens really are all over the map in terms of what
they want and what they will pay for. Lambert said all sides agree,
however, one pool cannot be great for both competition and recreation.
That is the central fact that led to the development of Schemes B and C.
Lambert described Scheme B as including all the amenities of Scheme A,
plus a warm water, zero-depth-entry recreational pool with two waterslides,
at an additional cost of 3.5 million to be funded by referendum (which
Lambert said works out to $10 per year per voter). The pool would be
enclosed with two stories of glass. Open swim and swimming lessons
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could be held there. Lambert stated this addition would probably increase
the success of the outdoor fun pool. He added, however, such a pool is
guaranteed to lose money. Other communities have found indoor pools do
not make enough money during the busy summer season to make up for
lighter use during the school year. Year-round operating costs without
sufficient year-round revenues make it unlikely that an indoor recreational
pool could pay its own way.
Case asked if Scheme B would require re-rerouting Valley View Road, as
in the original referendum. Lambert said no, the expansion goes east not
south toward the road, although when Valley View is expanded he would
still recommend realignment to the south.
Lambert then described the final pool option, Scheme C, which would
require an additional $5 million referendum. Lambert described this option
as building the Scheme B recreational pool, plus expanding the existing
six-lane pool to 50 meters of very deep water with a bulkhead to
accommodate 25-yard events and to provide a potential fourteen lanes to
rent. An expanded diving well would also be included to make the pool
suitable for high school swim meets. Lambert noted facilities for
competitive swimmers are substandard compared to Eden Prairie's other
athletic facilities, and so perhaps deserving of improvement, but said it's a
question of affordability.
Lambert noted expansions of parking around the community center could
be funded out of park dedication fees. Only softball field#5 would be
changed to provide additional parking. The rest of the fields would not
move.
Aho commented $5 million for the pool area seemed expensive.
Lambert then presented the plan for Park Acquisition and Improvements.
He discussed suggested improvements at Forest Hills, Prairie View, and
Birch Island.
Lambert said the Forest Hills park shelter burned down, so it needs to be
replaced. He noted,however, the old shelter was in an isolated and
awkward location and had attracted vandalism from day one. Lambert also
stated Forest Hills school staff had approached him to see what might be
done about the playground. Because of a large berm near the school
building, the playground is on two levels, which makes it harder to
supervise the children. Lambert said school staff are also concerned about
the road in the rear of the school where cars cut through. Forest Hills Park
also has two softball fields and a hockey rink.
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Lambert shared the plans for a revised layout of Forest Hills Park, with the
building and rink moved to a new location near the circle drop-off area.
This location would be more visible and more convenient for the summer
playground program, since it is nearer to the playground. Lambert said the
troublesome road would be dead-ended to avoid vehicles cutting through.
He said he was meeting with school staff tomorrow and would then meet
with the neighborhood and the athletic associations regarding field use.
Next, Lambert discussed possible improvements to Prairie View Park. He
noted this park building burned years ago and was replaced with a
temporary structure. Lambert said he needed to talk to school staff and
neighbors of the park to see if they still wanted the hockey rink. Their
answer will affect the decision on whether to erect a permanent building
that could also serve as a warming house.
Lambert also proposed looking into acquiring an additional 4.3 acres for
Prairie View Park. He noted the school was originally planned to be half
the size, and the original site plan included additional fields. The only way
to expand is to acquire more land. Lambert noted the Rogers family owns
an adjacent parcel,but said he didn't know if they were ready to sell.
Lambert recommended meeting with the property owners and requesting an
option to expand the park in the future. He said with the City's shortage of
soccer fields, the opportunity to expand a school park is too good to pass
up.
Case asked whether the school district would partner with us. Lambert said
he hadn't talked to them about it,but noted their financial situation. He
also noted we provide park space to the other schools for free—for
example, Forest Hills School owns land 30 feet out from the building and
the City owns the rest.
Young asked how many soccer fields the City has. Lambert said 42 or 44.
Lambert described improvements to Edenvale Park. He described this park
as somewhat unfinished. It also has a temporary building, and the parking
lot is gravel. Lambert stated, with the addition of a well house in 1985, the
playground has become the focal point of the park and the shelter less used.
Lambert noted Edenvale used to have an active summer parks program,
which dwindled as the demographic changed in the nearby public housing.
Now there are lots of kids living nearby again. Lambert suggested if the
City invested in a permanent building, the park could serve again as a
summer program site. He said he wanted to talk to park neighbors about a
hockey and free skate rink, and to the athletic associations about fields.
Lambert mentioned a dedicated lacrosse field or half or full court
basketball as possibilities.
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Lastly, Lambert discussed Birch Island Woods, two acres of which could
be purchased for$860,000. Lambert speculated that the City did not have
much of a chance of getting a grant when other grant applicants would be
able to purchase much more land for the money. However, he stated Birch
Island Woods has community support. Lambert stated if people were given
a chance to vote on buying all four acres of Birch Island Woods as a
referendum question, it would pass.
Lambert then moved to the issue of putting some additional money in the
referendum to replace old playground structures. He explained the City
currently replaces playgrounds at a rate of one or two a year. With
additional funding, the City could accelerate that process and make many
neighborhoods very happy.
Lambert also recommended holding a town meeting with seniors to discuss
their recreational needs.
2. Tentative Referendum Planning Schedule
Lambert referred the Council to the schedule included in the packet. He
acknowledged the Council had been presented with a great deal of
information,but also noted that action could not be put off if the schedule
were to be followed. The schedule allowed just six weeks to meet with all
groups, meet with bondsmen and architects, and work out hard costs for
construction and operation. Lambert said the next step would be a joint
City Council and Parks Commission meeting and a public meeting to
invite input on the proposed amenities and the structure of the referendum
questions. Only then would the City decide whether to run a referendum
this November or not. Lambert said by September 1, all details should be
known. The final eight weeks would be devoted to the final push for voter
education and a successful outcome.
3. Recommendation for 2005 Trails Projects
Lambert noted the City currently has over$5.5 million of trail
construction or repair projects on the proposed schedule. With the current
budget of$125,000 per year for trails, it will be many years before the
transportation trails can be completed. Lambert suggested by adding $2
million for trails to the referendum, the process could be strongly
accelerated. He characterized the cost as 50 cents per month for the
average homeowner.
At this point, Councilmember Case suggested a general discussion on
parks referendum issues and the motions. He stated while he was not
ready to "open the checkbook,"he felt comfortable with the idea of
breaking up the questions. He noted the process could be stopped at any
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point along the way and said he felt comfortable with all four parks
motions.
Lambert clarified the Community Center improvements would have to
pass for any of the pool improvements to pass, even though they would be
listed as separate questions.
Young asked what was different in this referendum vs. last year's, besides
the water park. Lambert said 1.3 million in renovations had been removed
as well as 7 million for the outdoor water park. He said everyone said the
water park was the reason the last referendum failed. Aho asked if
anything had been added. Lambert said the potential Prairie View land
acquisition and additional costs at Forest Hills (the re-grading and change
in layout, instead of the building only) were also new.
Young said he thought developing the trail system was important. He also
said he was not troubled by the park acquisition and improvement. Young
stated the Community Center,however, was a lot to consider in one night.
He said he was worried about how a new parks referendum would be seen,
even if the questions were broken up. Young noted even in a special
election situation with low turnout, the last referendum still lost. He
believed people would still look at the referendum and see a price tag of
over ten million. He acknowledged the Community Center was in bad
shape,but still felt concerned.
Case pointed out if the City did not run a referendum, it would never get
the funds. He asked Young what he was suggesting.
Young said citizens would have the perception the City is running a
referendum again, even with a split question. He said there is a lot of
support for parks and open space, but perhaps not for a $10 million
Community Center. He noted the City has other health facilities such as
Flagship. Young reiterated two hours was too short a time to digest the
concept.
Tyra-Lukens said she understood Young's concerns. She acknowledged it
is uncertain whether the community center referendum would pass. She
asked Young if he had suggestions of items to take out to make the
proposal more palatable.
Aho suggested removing the fitness center since good private facilities are
available.
Lambert said the fitness center rated pretty high in the survey. He noted tat
80 percent of the Community Center members said they joined for the
fitness center. The fitness area is above the expanded locker rooms, which
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are definitely needed. Flagship, Northwest, and the Chaska Community
Center are all in the process of expanding fitness centers because of their
popularity. As to why the City should provide a fitness center, Lambert
said the main point is to provide access for those citizens who cannot
afford a private club membership.
Neal responded to Young's concerns by stating tonight's motions are to
authorize Staff to gather more precise cost estimates and gather
community input. He said these are two important streams of information
to decide whether to go forward with a referendum or not. He assured the
Council this was not a "slippery slope." He said there are too many
questions about school and neighborhood issues, and that Staff and the
Council need more information.
Neal also stated the ideas presented tonight are consistent with what was
learned from the last referendum. Voters,both yea and nay, said they
would like to see the City put up another referendum in one or two years,
during a general election when there was no school referendum on the
ballot. Neal also said voters said no outdoor pool, so that has been
removed.
Young stated "getting more information" is different from"approving the
concept." He said the motion sounded too final.
Aho suggested rewording the motion to say gathering information instead
of approving the concept. Neal noted Staff needs a concept to research
prices and to gather public input.
Aho inquired about the cost of this information gathering stage. Lambert
said it would be about$10,000 in additional landscape planning and
architect's fees for the six-week information-gathering period. He noted
most of the costs had been incurred already.
Tyra-Lukens asked how the motion could be reworded to get a unanimous
vote. Lambert suggested rewording the motion to read, "Direct Staff to
further develop the concept for Community Center improvements" instead
of"approve the concept for Community Center improvements."
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young, to direct Staff to further
develop the concept for Community Center improvements that would be
funded by a referendum and to further evaluate the feasibility of funding
several components with revenue bonds or a combination of revenue bonds
and donations, including the third rink addition, an outdoor fun pool and an
indoor play area. Motion carried 5-0 as amended.
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The Council moved to a final discussion on the pool motion. Aho asked if
the motion meant that Scheme C was off the table. Lambert said the
motion would take Scheme C off the table. Aho said he was not ready to
take the pool deepening option off the table yet. He suggested rewording
the motion to read "Authorize Staff to obtain detailed operational costs for
both Options B and C" instead of"Approve consideration of Option B as
the preferred option."
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young, to authorize Staff to obtain
detailed operational costs for both Options B and C for providing for
swimming pool improvements, and furthermore that this option be
considered as a separate question if included on the referendum. Motion
carried 5-0 as amended.
MOTION: Butcher moved, seconded by Case, to authorize Staff to
contact representatives of the School District to review options to be
considered at Forest Hills Park and Prairie View Park and to send notices to
residents within the service areas of Forest Hills Park, Edenvale Park and
Prairie View Park to obtain input from neighborhoods regarding proposed
changes to those neighborhood parks prior to making any decisions on park
acquisition and improvements for a referendum. And furthermore to
contact the property owners for the proposed expansion of Prairie View
Park and Birch Island Woods to discuss the feasibility of obtain options on
those parcels in order to confirm acquisition costs prior to a referendum.
Motion carried 5-0.
MOTION: Young moved, seconded by Aho, to accept the
recommendation of the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission to consider as either a separate question or part of the park
acquisition and development question $2,000,000 toward the completion of
the City trail system. Motion carried 5-0.
4. Updated Parks Capital Improvements Plan
Neal requested Lambert to defer this topic until the next meeting.
E. REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
1. Plans and Specifications for Intersection and Roadway Improvements
on Technology Drive and Mitchell Road, I.C. 00-5508 (Resolution No.
2005-59)
Public Works Director Eugene Dietz explained this item would normally
be on the consent calendar,but he decided to present it for discussion
since Technology Drive had not been revisited for a while. This project
would convert Technology Drive from a two-lane to a four-lane road. The
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road would be widened equally in both directions and the trail on the south
side would be untouched. The north side trail would be reconstructed with
a new bridge over Purgatory Creek. The intersection at Mitchell Road
would be redone to include right and left turn lanes.
Dietz said the Technology Road improvements are all as originally
conceived with ADC,but with the downturn in their industry, ADC would
prefer not to do the improvements at all. The City made an agreement
with ADC to assume responsibility for the project in exchange for a
special assessment agreement requiring payments over ten years.
Dietz noted there had been past discussion of walkable communities
related to this project. He said there would be an eight-foot median at the
St. Andrews Church intersection, a convenient crossing for pedestrians to
pick up the trails. There would be another crossing at Bilimbi Bay. The
project would also include $82,000 for plantings along the south side. The
north side does not allow landscaping because of existing wetlands and
ponds close to the road.
Tyra-Lukens echoed concerns about walkability. She commented there is
a long stretch of road between lights, and the south side trail is often
flooded. It might be nice to have a crossing on the western stretch of the
street. Dietz said he would look into it. Tyra-Lukens also requested a flat
pass-through for bicycle traffic crossing the median and Dietz assented.
Jeremiah noted the south side trail had been put in with the expectation of
these road improvements. She said the road improvements would help
eliminate the ponding.
MOTION: Butcher moved, seconded by Case, to adopt the Resolution
approving plans and specifications and ordering advertisement for bids for
I.C. 00-5508, Intersection and Roadway Improvements on Technology
Drive and Mitchell Road. Motion carried 5-0.
2. Professional Service Agreement with Landform EnOneerins!
Company for Technology Drive and Mitchell Road Improvements,
I.C. 00-5508
Dietz explained there would be more action needed on this project before
voting on it. The City Attorney advised a Public Hearing is needed on this
project, so one would be held the same night the contract is approved.
Dietz noted Landform Engineering had designed the project to 90% while
working for ADC. The City would hire them to finish the project.
F. REPORT OF POLICE CHIEF
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G. REPORT OF FIRE CHIEF
1. Neighborhood Meeting for New Fire Station
Fire Chief George Esbensen reported the City has closed on the Delagard
property site. 260 notices have been sent out for a neighborhood
informational meeting next Tuesday, April 19 from 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.
Station 3 (Round Lake) was chosen for the meeting because it has a
similar footprint to the new building. Fire staff and the architectural
design firm will be on hand to answer questions. The developer will also
bring concept drawings for the residual piece to get neighborhood input on
amenities. Esbensen said the project would come before the Planning
Commission on April 29, with a projected groundbreaking of September
26.
Tyra-Lukens asked if Esbensen was already receiving calls from the
neighbors. He said people are always concerned about siren noise, but
once the station is operational they realize there is usually no need for fire
trucks to use their sirens in the middle of the night.
H. REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY
XV. OTHER BUSINESS
XVI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Young, to adjourn the meeting. Mayor Tyra-
Lukens adjourned the meeting at 9:40 p.m.