HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 07/06/1999 - Workshop APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE COUNCIL/STAFF WORKSHOP
TUESDAY,JULY 6, 1999 5:00-6:55 P.M. CITY CENTER
HERITAGE ROOM H
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Jean Harris, Councilmembers Sherry
Butcher-Younghans,Ronald Case,Ross
Thorfinnson,Jr., and Nancy Tyra-Lukens
CITY STAFF: City Manager Chris Enger,Public Safety Services
Director Jim Clark,Parks &Recreation Services
Director Bob Lambert,Public Works Services
Director Eugene Dietz, Community Development
and Financial Services Director Don Uram,
Management Services Director Natalie Swaggert,
Environmental Coordinator Leslie Stovring,
Senior Planner Scott Kipp, and Council Recorder
Peggy Rasmussen
OTHER: Flying Cloud Airport EIS Noise Mitigation
Commission Members: Tom Heffelfinger,Joe
Smith,Alan Nitchman,Rob Kilpatrick,Jeff
Larsen,Jeff Bauer, Gary Schmidt,John Smith
MAC Staff. Mark Ryan,Roy Furhman, Chad
Leqve,Mitch Killian: Barr Engineering: Bob
Obermeyer,Hal Runke: Riley-Purgatory-Bluff
Creek Watershed District: Conrad Fiskness
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER—MAYOR JEAN HARRIS
Mayor Harris called the meeting to order at 5:20 p.m.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Butcher-Younghans moved, seconded by Case,to approve the agenda.
Motion carried 5-0.
Ill. TOPICS
A. PRESENTATION OF FLYING CLOUD AIRPORT NOISE MITIGATION
Tom Heffelfinger, Chair of the Flying Cloud Airport Advisory Commission, spoke
for the Commission. He said that last July the Metropolitan Airports Commission
(MAC) set up the Flying Cloud Airport EIS Noise Mitigation Committee to
develop a Noise Mitigation Plan for inclusion in the Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS) for the expansion of the Flying Cloud Airport. One subject they
considered was the revision of MAC's Ordinance 51. The group began reviewing
this in September 1998 and ended early in May 1999. They looked at how other
airports handle noise problems, at the engines on various aircraft, etc. After much
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discussion, a compromise agreement was reached to consider changes to Ordinance
51. They concluded that both weight and evaluation of the aircraft engines should
be used in revising the ordinance, as this rewards individuals and companies using
the most recent state-of-the-art technology in their aircraft. The goal of the
recommended changes is to replicate the noise contours for an expanded Flying
Cloud Airport that would exist if there were no expansion of the airport. Total
aircraft operations are expected to increase whether or not the airport expands. It
appears there will be additional hangars at the facility,which will increase traffic.
Heffelfinger pointed out that Section 2.4 regarding the curfew, is also changed. It
states that no Stage H jet aircraft can operate out of the airport between 10:00 p.m.
and 6:00 a.m.
To address Council and resident concerns regarding use of the airport, the revised
ordinance includes that no scheduled airline or FAR Part 121 cargo operations,
such as Federal Express,would be permitted, and includes a limit of 22,500 pounds
Basic Empty Weight for all Stage III aircraft. This would allow the quietest
heavier Stage HI fan-jets to use the airport.
Heffelfinger recommended retaining a Flying Cloud Commission for the future to
ensure compliance with Ordinance 51. He pointed out that non-compliance could
result in criminal prosecution. It is also recommended that the ordinance be
reviewed every three years.
Chris Enger said he has been asked many times over the years who is supposed to
enforce Ordinance 51 and how is it done?
Heffelfinger replied enforcement will be done through MAC, and those in violation
of the ordinance will be reported to local authorities. It is very difficult to pursue,
however, because there is liable to be a challenge of interfering with interstate
commerce. The commission discussed how to handle violations. If a pilot were
operating outside the daytime use limit, for example, the airport manager would
talk to the operator first about the violation. MAC, the advisory commission and
local law-enforcement authorities could process violations. That is why it would be
a good idea to keep the commission in place, as it could decide to ban a particular
operator from the airport if there were a number of violations.
Enger said he doesn't know when this process has ever been tested to see if it
works. He would like to see a test case. With regard to an ongoing role for the
commission, he would like to know what the expected role of that commission
would be.
Heffelfinger replied Flying Cloud Airport fall within the jurisdiction of Eden
Prairie, Hennepin County, and MAC. MAC told the advisory commission of a
handful of cases where aircraft operators were violating the ordinance. The
operators were advised they were in violation, and their behavior changed. This
outcome is better than prosecuting cases. Having a test case would be a good idea.
Heffelfinger suggested the advisory commission could be kept informed of
enforcement actions and used as a "watch-dog" group. He does not expect it to
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expand into a judicial role. The appropriate authority for crimes committed on
airport property would be the city attorney, acting on a report from airport police.
Mayor Harris thanked Heffelfinger for his presentation and said the next step for
the City Council would be to review and comment on the EIS for the expansion of
the Flying Cloud Airport. (The Draft EIS is scheduled for completion by the end of
November.)
B. PRESENTATION FROM BARR ENGINEERING ON WATER QUALITY
OF ROUND LAKE AND POLICY DISCUSSION OF FUTURE
RECREATIONAL USE
Bob Obermeyer from Barr Engineering and a consultant for the Riley-Purgatory-
Bluff Creek Watershed District said Eden Prairie has the benefit of three lakes, two
of which are in the watershed district. He said the purpose of the report is to
provide policy options for maintaining the status of Round Lake as a swimming
facility.
Hal Runke explained that the Use Attainability Analysis provides an analysis of
seven components of a water body that reflects its general health. It also includes
diagnoses of problems and how to achieve better water quality. The problems they
found are an accelerated rate of nitrogen and phosphorous levels that promote the
growth of blue-green algae. This is a result of run-off from the hard surfaces
around the lake, landscaping around the lake, as well as the storm water system.
The Use Attainability Analysis is outcome-based and intended to look at what
needs to be done to achieve desirable conditions for swimming. Late in the
summer, fecal contamination of the lake occurs because of the large number of
geese around the lake. The conditions have been getting worse over the years. The
amount of algae in the lake can be measured; when there is less than a meter and a
half transparency, the water becomes less desirable for swimming. This is a
standard developed by the DNR.
There are stunted pan fish in the lake, which are not attractive to people who want
to use the lake for fishing. In 1981 and 1982 the DNR added a fish toxicant to the
lake to remove the pan fish and added new fish which are predators to the pan fish.
However,there are very few of these predators remaining in the lake
Barr Engineering conducted a yearlong sampling process. They looked at what
practices would have to be instituted to improve water quality sufficiently to
support swimming. Of the total annual phosphorous load, approximately 60
percent of it comes from the northwest sub-watershed area. Barr Engineering's
recommendations to improve the lake's water quality include:
• Use of conventional methods, such as more street-sweeping and banning the
use of phosphate fertilizers.
• Constructing a tenth retention pond for the northwest portion of the lake where
there is none.
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• Increasing the volume or depth of three existing storm-water retention ponds
near the lake. NURP ponds remove 40 percent to 50 percent of phosphorous.
Barr Engyineering does not believe these remedies will be sufficient, however, to
support swimming. They are recommending construction of a water-treatment
plant that would add alum on an ongoing basis to the surface water that reaches
Round Lake from the northwest sub-watershed area, in order to reduce
phosphorous levels. Alum treatment of runoff and other methods should result in
sufficient improvement to support swimming. There would be a one-time
construction cost for an alum water-treatment plant of$760,000, and there would
be an annual maintenance cost for the plant of$10,000 to $25,000. Runke said that
alum is aluminum sulfate and forms aluminum hydroxide in the water, which
sweeps all algae from the water and will absorb much of the phosphorous.
Butcher-Younghans inquired if treating the lake one time with alum would be
sufficient and would save the cost of building an alum plant. Runke replied a one-
time treatment is included in the recommendations they made. The lake would be
improved temporarily but it soon would be back to where it is now.
Runke explained that this whole process is driven by trying to achieve the goals set
by the PCA, the Watershed Board and the DNR. They have classified Round Lake
as a swimming resource in connection with the Clean Water Act. The City or
Watershed District has to take responsibility for maintaining water quality in its
lakes. Cities currently under regulation need to implement the rules by 2012. In
order to exempt Round Lake from treatment to meet these goals, it would have to
be reclassified as a non-swimming lake by the PCA.
Case inquired if a comparison of all lakes in the watershed district is available.
Runke replied the first round of tests was for all swimming lakes. The second
round will be done on fishing lakes managed by the DNR. The third round will be
on less-used lakes.
Butcher-Younghans asked if having a ban on the use of phosphorous fertilizer
would significantly impact the lake. Runke replied it would, as about 15 percent of
the phosphorous in water from suburban residential areas comes from turfed lawns.
The phosphorous from turfed areas gets into the water gradually,whereas it washes
off impervious surfaces during hard rains. Instituting a phosphorous fertilizer ban
may help the condition of Round Lake,but will not make the water swimmable.
Lambert asked, if Eden Prairie decides there is not going to be swimming in Round
Lake because the City can't afford the alum treatment,is there a lesser strategy than
developing a water-treatment plant on this lake? What does the City need to do so
there can at least be good fishing in Round Lake? Is there anything else the City
can do to turn it around?
Runke replied implementing the best management practices would help, and may
even result in sufficiently good water quality to support swimming some years;
other years it won't.
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Dietz asked how long an alum treatment plant lasts, and Runke answered from 10
years to 15 years. Dietz suggested using conventional treatment methods and an
annual alum treatment. Runke said it would be necessary to get a permit from both
the DNR and the PCA every time a treatment is done.
Mayor Harris thanked Mr.Runke for his presentation. The Council needs to decide
if it wants to keep Round Lake as a swimmable lake. Perhaps they can look at a
combination of options. She asked staff to come back to the Council with possible
options and a calculation of costs.
IV. OTHER BUSINESS
V. COUNCIL FORUM
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Hams adjourned the meeting at 6:50 p.m.