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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCH,WORKSHOWFORUM
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2002 CITY CENTER
4:00- 6:25 PM,HERITAGE ROOM H
6:30—7:00 PM, COUNCIL CHAMBER
CITY COUNCIL:
Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens, Councilmembers Sherry Butcher, Ron Case, David Luse and
Jan Mosman
CITY STAFF:
City Manager Scott Neal, Public Safety Director Jim Clark, City Attorney Ric Rosow, and
Recorder Lorene McWaters
Heritage Room H
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Tyra-Lukens called the meeting to order at 4:15 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. SECOND HAND-SMOKE
Tyra-Lukens said there were several items to address before beginning discussion of a
second-hand smoke ordinance. City Attorney Rosow would comment on
communications he and the Council had received over the past few days, Councilmember
Mosman would show a short video that explores both sides of the smoking issue, and
Councilmember Luse would present some prepared comments.
Rosow said several matters had come to his attention over the past few days indicating
the level of pressure the Council is under. Rosow said in the spirit of openness he wanted
to share these matters with the public. He distributed a document he prepared in response
to several of these communications, to help the Council"act as they are supposed to,"
without undue pressure.
• Rosow referenced a letter written to him that was critical of his representation of the
City. Rosow said the letter indicated that his response to questions about MPAAT
lobbying"only confirmed your limited understanding of the impropriety of MPAAT
actions and the magnitude of the court's order." Rosow said he continues to believe
he has represented the Council well and will not confine his opinions based on this
letter. Councilmember Case asked the name of the letter writer. Rosow said the
letter was from Thomas Briant, an Eden Prairie resident and attorney. Council-
member Luse said he believes Briant may be a paid tobacco lobbyist. Case said he
thought it vms important to for the press to know..,ho..rote the letter and their
affiliations.
• Rosow said City Manager Neal reported he attended a meeting Monday morning with
Mayor Tyra-Lukens and a citizen regarding the smoking issue. Rosow said it was his
understanding that this individual stated that he"knew things he did not want to have
to make public." The person said he would not make these things public if the
Council agreed to his version of a smoking ordinance. Rosow reiterated that he
strongly believes the best way to proceed is in an open manner. Case asked the name
of the citizen. Rosow said the person was Paul Wendorff. Case asked if Wendorff s
statement constituted blackmail. Rosow said he had analyzed the incident only in the
context of civil law, and was mainly concerned with advising the Council how best to
proceed with their discussion of a smoking ordinance.
• Rosow said a Milwaukee law firm, Whyte,Hirschboeck Dudek S.C., e-mailed to him
a copy of a letter to Councilmember Luse. The letter said it had been brought to their
attention that Luse had publicly questioned the legality of some American Cancer
Society activities. The letter put Luse on notice to refrain from further public
comment questioning ACS activities. Rosow said he had received the letter just that
afternoon and hadn't had much time to look into it. He said he asked one of his
partners to do some research and advise the Council on how such a letter might limit
Councilmember Luse's ability to comment publicly on the smoking ordinance issue.
Rosow said their research indicated that those in the Federal government have
unqualified immunity with regard to public comments. On the other hand, the City
Council has what Rosow termed"qualified"immunity for comments made within the
context of Council meetings. The State extends conditional privilege to Council-
members,which is only overridden in cases where malice,ill-will or wanton
recklessness can be proven. Rosow said this gives the Councilmembers broad
latitude in their comments.
Rosow said in a democracy, the Council is one of the places where debate occurs, and
this is as it should be. The second-hand smoking issue has been very contentious, and the
public needs to know the Council has and is operating in the full light of public scrutiny.
Councilmember Mosman said she would show a few minutes from a video of the 6:00
news in New York.City on August 1, 2002. Mosman said the video shows government
and business working together for clean air. She said second-hand smoke is the only one
of 16 top carcinogens that is not addressed by regulations. She said she considers what
the Council is proposing as living up to a new standard that is essential for health,rather
than"regulation." Mosman said the issue is not one of"freedoms"but rather one of a
toxic inhalant that is making us sick. She said she is not"against"smokers,but actually
considers them victims as well. She said Minnesota spends $1.6 billion on healthcare
costs associated with smoking. The number of people dying from second-hand smoke is
equal to three 747 jets going down each day with no survivors. If an ordinance saves one
life,the Council would be remiss if they didn't do something. She hopes the Council is
able to pass something concrete, even if it is small to begin with.
Councilmember Luse read a statement he said he had distributed to the press and shared
with the Mayor and City Manager earlier that day. Luse said the Council is five people,
just like any other residents of Eden Prairie. Luse said he did not believe the Council
should spend time or money on Wendorffs request for a task force to investigate its
conduct. He felt NN'endorff was bringing politics into the discussion, seemed to have
some sort of"weird conspiracy theory,"and was throwing around a lot of inaccurate
innuendos.He said this behm for was not appropriate. He said it is apparent that
Wendorff is against smoking regulation, and if this is the case he should just say so.
Regarding the letter from the American Cancer Society's law firm, Luse said he always
strives to "say it the way it is." He regrets if Isis Stark misunderstood anything he had
said in recent months. He said he has been honest and up front all along with his
concerns about MPAAT's lobbying activities. Although the Council has received
criticism about"moving too fast"on an ordinance,Luse said he believes they have
proceeded in a fair and reasonable manner that has included open debate. He said he
feels it was a mistake to start the discussion with an all-inclusive, hypothetical ordinance.
Luse said he would like to bring discussion on a smoking ban to a resolution at this
meeting. He said he was proposing a total ban on smoking indoors. The bar portions of
restaurants would be exempt from regulations until January 2004, giving them time to
prepare for the changes. He recommended creation of a task force that would include the
Chamber,residents, and business owners. This task force would develop a non-profit
fund to promote Eden Prairie as a great place to live,work and do business. He would
like to see$1 million raised to promote the positive aspects of smoke-free environments.
Luse said he was wary of any compromises because it would be very hard to craft a fair
and effective one. He emphasized that there is no "what's next" aspect to the issue. The
City will not be banning Krispy Kreme donuts or other fast food. He said the Council
supports Eden Prairie's businesses,which provide 50 percent of the City's tax base.
Luse also proposed that the City apply to MPAAT for a$4 million to $6 million grant to
help Eden Prairie residents and workers quit smoking. Luse said he is an appointed
official, and as such he would like to stress that his fellow Councilmembers are a"bunch
of good family people who just want to give back to the town."
Mayor Tyra-Lukens said it sounds as if Luse and Mosman were proposing stricter
regulations than those the Council had agreed to at the previous meeting. She asked for
input from the other Councilmembers. Councilmember Butcher said that the issue is very
complex,but everyone is concerned with public health. The question is how far the
Council should go in regulating second-hand smoke. She said she still believes the City
should regulate smoking in the areas it owns together with residents—City facilities and
open spaces. She is not comfortable regulating businesses that are already following
State laws. She recommended a best practices review panel of people with all different
points of view. This panel would set goals and standards for voluntary compliance.
Luse said he respects Butcher's opinion,that he also has put a lot of consideration into
the personal choice and business components of the smoking discussion. He said he
doesn't think a best practices panel is necessary,because the Council has had more than
adequate input both from local residents as well as from around the country. He said he
believes the majority of the Council wants to pass a smoking ban that will be effective
but not hurt business. He doesn't believe the matter should be left to the"free market,"
and that any ordinance must have"meat to it."
Butcher said she respects Luse's perspective,but there are different ways to do the right
thing. She said this is about doing what the Council reasonably can do,which is why she
wants a panel to explore options.
Case said he agrees with about SO percent of what Luse said and even more so with
Butcher. Case believes the best approach is to wrap the issue up in the positive,which he
doesn't think is possible if the government begins regulating business. He said they all
agreed that it comes down to a health issue. Case said he didn't feel the Council should
go beyond the comfort level of the people. Case said he strongly believes a one-question
survey would have indicated a majority approving of a smoking ban—but, one that
doesn't hurt business. Case said that he feels there has been a shift in public opinion
about the smoking debate over the past couple of weeks. People are saying they are tired
of hearing about the issue. They are also commending the Council for the consensus they
reached at the last meeting to ban smoking from publicly-owned facilities and pledging to
support the cause. Case said it is important to remember it is an election year. All of the
non-incumbent Council candidates have stated they are not in favor of smoking
regulation. Even if the Council votes now to pass an ordinance with a likely 3-2 vote, the
ordinance may well be overturned by a new Council in January. If this happens,no other
cities will touch this issue for years to come. Case asked the Council to find a way to
pass a"copyable" ordinance that the Council and the community could support and could
serve as a model for other communities. He said restaurant owners are saying they want
to improve air quality, and he believes it.
Butcher said she believes a ban on smoking in all publicly owned places would be strong.
Luse said he respectfully disagreed. Luse said,based on input he has received, for the
Council not to pass a strong smoking ban would be worse than doing nothing at all. As a
businessperson he does not believe the Council should have gone through all of this pain
without something positive coming out of it. He said it would be important to prove that
business will not be hurt by a smoking ordinance. He asked the City to earmark
$100,000 by the end of the year to kick off an advertising campaign promoting smoke-
free Eden Prairie. He said as a businessperson he would pledge the first$10,000. He
challenged the Council to "celebrate Eden Prairie for all that it is." Case said his
impression is that public opinion has polarized at about 50 percent for a ban and 50
percent against it. Luse said he believes a majority of residents favor a ban.
Mayor Tyra-Lukens said before this Workshop it appeared that she and Councilmember
Mosman were leaning toward heavier restrictions with Councilmember Case as a swing
vote. Now it appears that Tyra-Lukens holds the swing vote. She said she had spent a
tough two days thinking about the situation, and she would like to see a better outcome
than a 3-2 vote. To clarify her position, she said it is necessary to "get personal." She
said it is widely known that she believes that regulating second-hand smoke is a public
health issue. She said she is not a political person, and that she has served as a
Councilmember and Mayor as a service to the community. She said she is willing to
sacrifice her position for the cause,but is not willing to sacrifice the cause. She is not
convinced that passing an ordinance that would be overturned by a new Council is the
right thing to do. She likes the idea of working together positively toward a common
goal.
T�Ta-Lukens said that while those who are in favor of an ordinance have been generally
respectful. The opposition has behaved so disrespectfully she doesn't allow her teenage
daughter to answer the phone in their home. She said one citizen has taken the issue to
the newspapers with all kinds of innuendoes. It is her understanding these tactics are
typical of groups who have opposed similar ordinances in other communities. She said
her meeting with Paul Wendorff on Monday morning is an example of what is really
going wrong with this issue. She said she doesn't believe passing an ordinance on a 3-2
votes will change the situation. She said she is okay with losing the race for Mayor if
necessary,but she worries what will happen in January with a new Council. She has
consequently gone from favoring strict regulations to wanting to promote a positive,
consensus-building process. She would rather work toward getting voluntary compliance
and have Eden Prairie be a leader to surrounding communities.
Councilmember Case said he would still like to pass an ordinance banning smoking from
City-owned facilities and properties. He said they can discuss the second part,
developing guidelines and bringing community members into the process later. Mosman
said that propaganda circulated in recent weeks has raised so much unfounded fear and
concern that the Council has no choice but to consider backing up.
Rosow said he wanted to clarify which portions of the discussion the Council wished to
move on. He said he had drafted an ordinance to regulate smoking in publicly-owned
places based on Council direction at the last meeting. The Council could chose to discuss
this draft and put it on the Council meeting agenda for a vote. Ordinances require two
readings and two votes, usually at separate Council meetings. If the Council chooses to
do the first and second readings at the same meeting, a unanimous vote is required for
approval. Case said he would like staff to be directed to prepare an ordinance and a
resolution. He would also like to set a workshop date to discuss further steps. Luse
asked if someone would clarify the consensus reached. Tyra-Lukens said they had
reaffirmed what they had agreed on at the last meeting—to consider an ordinance
banning smoking at City-owned facilities and a resolution asking the state to consider the
issue.
IV. OTHER TOPICS
Council Chamber
V. OPEN FORUM (Scheduled participants, 6:30-6:50 p.m.)
A. STRONG SCHOOLS REFERENDUM
Caroline Sweeny,with the Strong Schools volunteer group kicked off the
presentation. She outlined the School District's need for funding. Acting
Superintendent Dr. Melissa Krull explained the rationale behind the Strong
Schools referendum theme. She said the district is receiving inadequate funding
from the State and the operating levy($3 million per year for seven}Tears)would
help bridge the shortfall. Executive Director of Business Services Patricia
Magnuson also reviewed the financial situation and compared the amount spent
per student in Eden Prairie to surrounding communities. She said Eden Prairie is
the lowest spending school district in Hennepin County. School Board Director
Carol Bomben asked the Council and community to support the referendum and
vote"yes"on"November 5.
VI. OPEN PODIUlbI (Unscheduled participants, 6:50-7:00 p.m.)
Gary Diamond spoke on behalf of"Trails Without Rails", a citizen group opposing the
building of LRT through Eden Prairie on the old railroad right-of-way(which is owned
by Hennepin County). Diamond presented a Resolution the group is asking the Council
to adopt. Doug Henke and Mike Hall also spoke against Hennepin County conducting a
study of possible transit rail routes that might include the current LRT recreational trail in
Eden Prairie. City Manager Neal said he would meet with Mr. Diamond before the next
Council meeting to review ways in which"Trails Without Rails"can proceed with their
requests.
VII. ADJOURNMENT