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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY,JULY 20, 2004 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens, Councilmembers Sherry Butcher, Ron Case, Jan
Mosman, and Philip Young
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal,Parks &Recreation Director Bob Lambert,Public Works
Director Eugene Dietz, City Planner Michael Franzen, Community Development Director Janet
Jeremiah, City Attorney Ric Rosow and Council Recorder Theresa Brundage
I. ROLL CALL/CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Tyra-Lukens called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Councilmember Butcher was
absent.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. COUNCIL FORUM INVITATION
IV. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Young, to approve the agenda as published. Motion
carried 4-0.
V. PRESENTATION BY MET COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE MARY HILL SMITH
City Manager Scott Neal reported that Rep. Smith had a last-minute family issue and was not
able to attend this meeting. He said she wants to reschedule for sometime in September.
VI. WALKABLE COMMUNITIES PRESENTATION
City Planner Michael Franzen said that on April 22, the City hosted a Walkable Communities
Workshop, sponsored by the sidewalk section of the Metropolitan Council and the healthcare
industry. He said the workshop was put on because there is a relationship between the health of
a community and exercise, and a way to promote exercise is to promote the construction of
sidewalks and trails. He said his definition of a walkable community is one that"takes an
active and conscious decision to plan for sidewalks and trails as part of a comprehensive plan."
Franzen said barriers to walkable communities are lack of sidewalks and trails, low density
land use and missing sidewalk connections.He provided statistics from the healthcare industry
about lack of physical inactivity.He also observed differences in family transportation habits
and physical activities from 1953 to 1971.
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Franzen said at the conclusion of the workshop, there were three things the planner said should
be done: continue to build more sidewalks and trails; continue to promote more compact land
use; and plant more trees in boulevards.He said the City got high marks for past sidewalk and
trail planning, connectivity, and compact land use.
Mosman said the City has a wonderful trail system. She said priority routes used a lot by bikers
and walkers should be designated and plowed so they are also accessible in winter.
Tyra-Lukens commented she was at the presentation and stressed the importance of safety and
creating safe crossing spaces in the middle of wide roadways. She said changes have been
made in the business center area with more housing in the area. She said she would like to talk
with businesses at the mall and in that area to consider a continuous trail system so walkers
will have a way to get to the businesses. She said she would also like to see the city look at
developments as they come in in terms of walkability of the road spaces.
VII. MINUTES
A. CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD TUESDAY,JULY 6, 2004
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case, to approve the Minutes of the City
Council Workshop held Tuesday, July 6, 2004. Motion carried 4-0.
B. CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD TUESDAY,JULY 6,2004
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young,to approve the Minutes of the City
Council Meeting held Tuesday, July 6, 2004. Motion carried 4-0.
VIII. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CLERK'S LICENSE LIST
B. APPROVE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NO. 19-2004 AMENDING
CITY CODE CHAPTER 2 BY ADDING SECTION 2.33 RELATING TO
OBTAINING CRIMINAL HISTORY INFORMATION
C. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-104 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
FOUNTAIN PLACE
D. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-105 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF EAGLE
RIDGE AT HENNEPIN VILLAGE FOUR
E. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-106 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
WESTGATE OFFICE PARK
F. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.2004-107 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
SOUTHWEST STATION 3 ADDITION
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G. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-108 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
SETTLERS WEST
H. FLYING CLOUD MALL by Kleve Properties, LLC. Request for Rezoning from
Commercial Highway to Neighborhood Commercial on .65 acres and rezoning from I-2
to Neighborhood Commercial on 2.31 acres, Site Plan Review on 2.96 acres. Location:
Pioneer Trail and Highway 212. (Ordinance No. 21-2004 for Zoning District
Change,Resolution No. 2004-109 for Site Plan Review)
I. FOUNTAIN PLACE RETAIL by North American Properties. Request for Planned
Unit Development District Review with waivers on 12.8 acres, Zoning District Change
from Rural to Commercial Regional Service on 12.8 acres, Site Plan Review on 12.8
acres. Location: West of T.H.212, east of Columbine Road, south and east of
Castlemoor Drive (Ordinance No. 18-2004-PUS-11-2004 for PUD District Review
and Zoning Change,Resolution No. 2004-110 for Site Plan Review)
J. APPROVE FINAL "CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE WELLHEAD PROTECTION
PLAN"
K. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-111 REQUESTING MNDOT INVESTIGATE
SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON TH 212 AT CSAH 1
L. APPROVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 3 FOR HILLCRESUALPINE STREET
RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT
M. DECLARE OBSOLETE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AS SURPLUS AND
AUTHORIZE DISPOSAL
N. APPROVE AGREEMENT WITH TELADJUST,INC. FOR AUDIT OF CITY
PHONE RECORDS
O. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2004-111 CHANGING THE AUGUST 3, 2004,
CITY COUNCIL MEETING TIME AND LOCATION TO 8:00 PM AT THE
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE'S HOUSING AND HUMAN SERVICES OFFICE
P. APPROVE CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL REQUEST NO. 11 FOR SANITARY
SEWER INSTALLATION AT THE RILEY-JAOUES BARN
Q. APPROVE CHANGE ORDER PROPOSAL REQUESTS 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,AND 12
FOR CONSTRUCTION CHANGES AT THE RILEY-JAQUES BARN
R. APPROVE PURCHASE OF NEW TELEPHONE HARDWARE AND
SOFTWARE FROM ESCHELON FOR THE CITY'S NEW OFFICE SPACE AT
EDEN PRAIRIE CENTER
S. AWARD CONTRACT FOR REPLACEMENT OF ICE RINK 1 AT EDEN
PRAIRIE, COMMUNITY CENTER TO COMMERICAL REFRIGERATION
SYSTEMS,INC.
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MOTION: Young moved, seconded by Mosman, to approve Items A-S of the Consent
Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
IX. PUBLIC HEARINGS /MEETINGS
A. HARTFORD COMMONS PUD AMENDMENT 2004 by David Bernard Homes:
Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 17.8 acres,Planned Unit
Development District Review and Zoning District Amendment in the RM6.5 District
on 6.74 acres, Site Plan Review on 6.74 acres,Preliminary Plat of 6.74 acres into 11
lots. Location Rolling Hills Road and Prairie Lakes Drive. (Resolution No. 2004-113
for PUD Concept Review, Ordinance for PUD District Review and Zoning
Amendment,Resolution No. 2004-114 for Preliminary Plat)
City Manager Scott Neal said official notice of this public hearing was published in the
July 15, 2004,Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to 257 property owners. He said the
approved plan for phase two is 131 multiple family townhomes at a gross density of
17.84 units per acre. He said the revised plan has a different mix of the same product
and one new product, the vista townhome.
Neal said the Community Planning Board voted 5-0 to recommend approval of the
project to the City Council at the June 28, 2004 meeting. The project requires waivers
similar to the ones granted in 2001.
Franzen said the vista townhome is a variation of the urban row townhouse,but the
architecture was within the framework of the design manual approved by the City
Council. He said this product type also provides for more green space and room for
parking and sidewalks. He said Tim Whitten is here representing David Bernard
Homes.
There were no public comments.
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case, to close the Public Hearing;
and Adopt the Resolution for Planned Unit Development Concept Review on
17.8 acres; and Approve lst Reading of the Ordinance for Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers, and Zoning District Amendment in
the RM-6.5 District on 17.8 acres; and Adopt the Resolution for Preliminary
Plat on 17.8 acres into 40 lots; and Direct Staff to prepare a Development
Agreement incorporating Staff and Board recommendations and Council
conditions.
Case commented that it is a pleasure to see that urban density is happening and
this is the right project in the right location. Motion carried 4-0.
B. EDENVALE HIGHLANDS by BC Development, LLC. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 10.62 acres. Preliminary Plat of 10.62 acres into 8
lots and road right-of-way. Location: East terminus of Alpine Trail, south of the Twin
Cities and Western Railroad. (Ordinance for Zoning District Change,Resolution
No. 2004-115 for Preliminary Plat)
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City Manager Scott Neal said official notice of this public hearing was published in the
July 15,2004,Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to 51 property owners. This is for 8
single-family lots. The Community Planning Board voted 5-0 to recommend approval
of the project at its June 28,2004 meeting. The project was originally nine lots. One lot
was eliminated prior to Community Planning Board review. A conservation easement
along the rear yards of Lots 1 through 5 is proposed. This will protect the wooded slope
and shoreland bluff area. Outlot A located along Purgatory Creek will be dedicated to
the City. No variances to the City code are proposed.
Neal said the developer's consultant indicates tree loss of 35%. According to the City
Forester,tree loss is 44%. The difference is due to the consultant's inclusion of some
non-significant trees in the total count, and additional tree loss anticipated by the City
Forester with the construction of the retaining walls. An additional 405 caliper inches
of tree replacement is required. The plan has not yet been revised. This requirement
will be included in the Development Agreement.
He said a total of 23,000 cubic yards of excess fill will be removed from the property.
The developer is requesting City Council authorization for early grading so this work
can begin prior to 2°a Reading for the project.
Franzen said the developer, city forester and planners are continuing to look at ways to
position buildings and retaining walls so as to close the gap between calculations for
trees. He said the goal is to reduce tree loss as much as possible, and he will update the
Council by second reading on whether or not the plan requires more tree replacement.
Tyra-Lukens said she is concerned because an early grading permit is requested and the
trees may be gone before second reading. Franzen said a plan was just received late this
afternoon,but he has not had opportunity to check the site with Stuart Fox.Franzen
said before the grading permit is issued,there will be a definite answer about whether
or not a tree replacement plan is needed for 405 inches or some lesser amount.
Tyra-Lukens clarified that approval for early grading permit will be issued at the
discretion of staff when the tree issues have been resolved.
Becky Brown, 6855 Alpine Trail, said neighbors do not want the area to be developed,
but given that it is going to be developed,they feel confident that Mr. Calhoun has
addressed their concerns. She said Calhoun and his engineer have been very responsive
to concerns and generally the neighborhood is in favor of it.
Tyra-Lukens asked if the trail runs alongside the property line for this neighborhood
and the adjoining neighborhood, and is there any sidewalk or trail along the street itself.
Franzen said he does not believe there is a sidewalk or trail going up the cul-de-sac. He
said there is a conservation easement running across the rear of the lot,but that is where
a wetland buffer zone is located.
There were no further comments.
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MOTION: Young moved to close the Public Hearing; and approve 1 st Reading of the
Ordinance for Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 10.62 acres; and adopt
the Resolution for Preliminary Plat on 10.62 acres into 8 lots; and direct Staff to
prepare a Development Agreement incorporating Staff and Board recommendations
and Council conditions; and authorize issuance of an early grading permit for Edenvale
Highlands at the discretion of staff when the tree issues have been resolved. Seconded
by Case, motion carried 4-0.
C. HIDDEN PONDS TRAIL AND POND IMPROVEMENTS,I.C. 03-5606
(Resolution No. 2004-116)
City Manager Scott Neal said official notice of this public hearing was published in the
June 24 and July 1, 2004,Eden Prairie Sun Current and sent to 257 property owners.
He said with the assistance of HTPO, Inc:,the staff has prepared a feasibility study for
reconstruction of trails and sediment removal from several ponds in the Hidden Ponds
First and Second Additions. This public hearing and the adoption of the attached
resolution is the next step in advancing this project. Neal said since the feasibility
study is not the result of a petition from affected owners, the requirement for approval
of the resolution is by four-fifths majority vote. He said with the absence
Councilmember Butcher tonight, this will require an affirmative vote of all four
Councilmembers in order to advance.
He said through a process guided by Parks Department staff that began in
approximately 1992, the City come to own the outlots containing trails and ponds in the
First and Second Additions of Hidden Ponds. The informal caveat of this process has
been that if the property owners pay the cost to upgrade the trail system to current City
standards,the City would own and maintain these outlots and trails in perpetuity.
Neal said although the primary objective is to replace the trail system, it was
determined during the scoping process of the project that access to the ponds for
maintenance purposes would be over the trail system that is proposed to be replaced.
Therefore, the project involves a first stage of sediment removal from several of the
ponds during the winter of 2004/2005 and then the complete reconstruction of the
trails in the Spring/ Summer 2005.
The feasibility study estimates that the assessment for each of the 258 properties in the
assessment district will be approximately$655.00. It is proposed to assess that amount
over a ten-year period. The feasibility study concludes that the project is both
necessary and feasible. Staff recommends that Council order the improvements in
accordance with the schedule included in the feasibility study.
Dietz explained the purpose of the public hearing. He said it is to determine the
feasibility for the special assessment aspect of the project and there will be a required
4/5 majority vote in order to advance the project. He said staff does advocate for the
project and all 258 properties received a copy of the feasibility study report.
Dietz presented the history of the Hidden Ponds neighborhood that began in 1972.He
said when started, the plan contemplated an open space, a trail and a linear park system
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as part of the project. He showed a map of the additions and pointed out existing trails
and ponds. He said in 1996, some of the longtime residents in the first addition deeded
outlots to the city. He said from 1997 to 2000, a process was put in place to receive and
file consent agreements from 75 percent of property owners so that they matched
terminology and language of the association documents.
Dietz said it came across his desk in 2001, and in November, 2003, Council adopted a
resolution to require and request a feasibility study. In it,he said, a trail system needed
to be upgraded, and a process has been identified on how to maintain stormwater
ponds. He said access to the ponds will be over the same trail system that will be
reconstructed. He said this is a joint investment with the city doing the dredging and
upgrading of the ponds and the neighborhood would be responsible for upgrading the
trails to current city standard that is thicker and 8 feet wide.
Dietz said the estimated cost for the entire project is $427,000 and the amount to be
assessed is about$169,000 with costs for stormwater improvements estimated at
$258,000. He explained that each of the 258 properties would be assessed$655 for the
trail improvement cost. He said the plan is to open bids sometime this fall,pond
dredging would begin just as freeze up occurs, and next spring the trails would be
rebuilt. He said a special assessment hearing would be held in September/October of
2005 with collection of certified assessments to begin in 2006.
Dietz said there is not a consensus in the neighborhood on whether or not they want a
trail system. He noted letters from neighbors in tonight's packet, showing support or
nonsupport of the issue. There is also a petition representing 23 homeowners.
He said at the staff level, these trails are just as important as any other trail in the
community. He said they provide a safe alternative to roadways for pedestrians and
bicyclists and provides an interconnectability that is highly desirable.
Dietz said he and Lambert agree to recommend eliminating the extension of a new
section of trail,new to the neighborhood, along the south side of Valley View Road
between Green Ridge Drive and Tartan Curve. He said it was thought to be an interim
step towards building a trail to Hwy. 101,but there is no safe way to cross Hwy. 101.
Mosman asked about trail width and winter snow plowing of the trails. Dietz said there
has been some concern that there may be a need to go to a 10-12 foot trail,but right
now there would be no commitment to winter plow this area.
Mosman asked if all the ponds will need cleaning. Dietz said he thinks that's true.
Mosman said it is against the Wetland Conservation Act Regulation to increase the
depth and capacity,but why wouldn't we increase them so they might last longer?
Dietz said there are 7 different types of wetlands. He said these are fairly shallow
ponds, 3-5 feet in depth. He said there is a rule to maintain the diversity of wetland
types. He said Hidden Ponds was built prior to NURP standards for water quality
treatment, and sediments will be removed in 4 of the 7 ponds.
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Dietz said flow generally goes from west/southeast,north/northeast through the 7
ponds, so the last pond in the system had 1"of sediment in it. He said one of the things
that will be done is the adding of catch basins to collect some of the street's sediments.
Nancy Pudas, 19150 Pheasant Circle, said she is a walker/runner and uses the section of
trail that is a non-trail. She said there is no sidewalk and it is very dangerous because
there is a curve there and cars cannot see her, so she must cross Valley View at some
point to get across the street. She said she is also concerned that a section of the trail is
overgrown and she cannot access it with a stroller. Pudas said the recommendation to
use a non-phosphorus fertilizer should be a requirement because she sees grass
clippings and fertilizer pellets everywhere that are going into the ponds.
Robert Little, 7261 Green Ridge Dr., said he thinks the parks department is great to
redo the bike trails and he is in support of the trails.
Edwin Lanning, 18800 Deerfield Tr., said the pond is not visible this time of year and
is not usable for swimming,boating, fishing and is not a very healthy looking pond. He
said he doesn't think it is a priority and as far as spending the money he does not see
who can benefit from it. He said it is more of a holding area for stormwater. He said the
storm sewer drains into the pond in front of his house and he is concerned about the
outlet being plugged up. He said the trails are kind of a luxury. He said this is a noble
effort, but he cannot see it being a priority item. Lanning suggested putting the whole
item to rest for now.
Bill Rogers, 18975 Valley View Rd., said he is against the trail extension along the
south side of Valley View Road, between Tartan Curve and Green Ridge Road. He
said there are 5 homes where the trail will go through the front yard and he is
concerned about how it will look as well as the liability and financial impact on
property values. He asked Council to give strong consideration to removing that trail.
Tyra-Lukens asked Rogers if he would be opposed to having a sidewalk in the front
yard instead of the trail. He said he would not be opposed to that.
Vikas Jain, 18885 Valley View Road, said he is also opposed to the project because he
is a resident on the same section of trail between Green Ridge and Tartan Curve. He
added that he has lived in Eden Prairie for nearly one year and is also opposed to
increasing taxes. He said the depth of impact on quality of life and financial liability
has to be weighed against the conveniences of connecting trails. He said a sidewalk
would be preferred,rather than a trail.
Dan Murphy, 7252 Tartan Curve, said he is a 15-year resident and vandalism has
increased over the years in the neighborhood. He said trails and paths should be closer
to public property and sidewalks should be in the front. He said he would be glad to pay
additional taxes for sidewalks. He said the most of the 35 property owners who signed
the petition live on the pond.
Murphy asked about the park referendum that was vetoed last May. He said he was told
that part of the paths were in the referendum.Dietz said this process has been going on
since 1992 and the idea of replacing the trails at the expense of the homeowners has
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been part of that thought process. He said in April, he was asked if there would be an
assessment if the referendum were approved and he spoke to Lambert about it and
responded that it may be difficult to do that. Dietz said that is as close to the issue as it
went. Murphy said he was the one who asked the question and he understood that if the
referendum were approved,the trail system would go through based on the money from
the referendum.Dietz said the project was ordered for a feasibility study with the idea
that this would be a special assessment in November, 2003 and because of Murphy's
question, it was talked about internally and if the money did come from the referendum
it was possible that they may not plan to specially assess.
Murphy said it looks to him like trees planted close to the path are going to be gone and
asked how many trees will be pulled up for the 8-foot path. He mentioned that there is
an existing trail between Duck Lake Trail and South Shore Lane West,proposed to be
removed and not reconstructed and asked Dietz to show the location of that trail. Dietz
said there was a trail segment that existed at one time,but adjacent neighbors took it
out and it has been gone for a number of years. He said the problem is that the 1991
Wetland Conservation Act is in place and the only way to build that trail is to fill
wetland and mitigate for it or take additional property from an adjacent owner.
Murphy said he thinks a sidewalk on Valley View is a great idea and is in favor of a
sidewalk, if necessary, on Tartan Curve.
Holly Rakocy, 7250 Green Ridge Drive, said she does not live on a pond or a trail. She
said sometimes we lose sight that we are part of a community and it saddens her to hear
that some feel that their own lives and yards are more important than the health of the
community. She said the health of the water in the Purgatory Creek system is at stake
and the safety of the community is at stake. She said the City has so many cul-de-sacs
and it is very difficult to drive,much less to walk or bike. She commended Dietz,
Lambert and Fox for their work and thanked them for the feasibility study. He said
diabetes and heart disease are on the upclimb and we need to encourage people to get
out into the fresh air and sustain the community. She said the ponds cannot be used as
dumping grounds and she wants to see the trails upgraded and see this go through.
John Conley, 7105 Quail Circle, said he loves the trail systems and is an avid
runner/biker/walker. He said he applauds efforts on this issue. He said as he looks at
Valley View from Quail Circle,he sees one of the trails proposed for improvements
and has not seen 10 people on the trail in 16 years. He said this trail, he believes, is
rarely used and questions the need for that trail. He said the area is served well by trail
systems along Valley View Road and Dell Road. He said he is also concerned about
trails so close to back yards and causing dogs to bark. He asked Council to check that
trail to see if it serves the area well.
Rochelle Ragsdale, 18950 Pheasant Circle, said it is hard for her to get to anywhere,
like Dell Road,without the trail that cuts through,just north of the 724F trail. She said
she has a toddler that likes to go to the park and it is very difficult to get there any other
way. She said she uses the trail all the time in spite of its condition and it is a safe way
for her to get to the park. She said others use the trail as well.
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Ragsdale said her property is numbered 187 and she has less than 1 foot of grade
between the bottom of her foundation and the top of the pond. She said the pond was
previously up a foot onto the house because drainage for the pond was filled in with
grass clippings,branches and other things so it is important to her that the ponds be
dredged, cleaned out and taken care of. She agreed that sidewalks would be as helpful
as trails in other areas.
Bev Cronk, 18895 Pheasant Circle, said her street is very busy all day with people
accessing paths. She said her children played on paths when they were young and
children today should be able to have those places to play also. She said homeowners
wanted the City to take over the trails area because of liability and that has been done.
She said an access on Tartan Curve was never given a path and the weeds there are 6-7
feet tall between houses and she would like the City to clean that up. She said some
owners there have cut down cattails and someone put a fire pit in. She said anyone who
bought a home on Tartan Curve,the path was there but right now it is very dangerous.
Cronk said she is in favor of the project.
Mosman asked if the section of path Cronk is referring to is in the middle of Tartan
Curve, across from Partridge. Cronk said yes, it is City owned and a path was supposed
to go there down to the path behind.
Barb Farrell, 7278 Tartan Curve, said she is in favor of restoring the trails. She said she
walked all of the trails until they deteriorated or were taken out by neighbors. She said
neighbors thought that by deeding the outlots to the City, the trails would be restored.
She said if the trails are abandoned, she is not sure if she is losing a property interest
she thought she had when she paid for her house. She said she would appreciate
restoring the leg connecting Dell to Pheasant Circle.
Jim Wagner, 7095 Quail Circle, 25-year resident, stated opposition to the project. He
said the paths deteriorated quickly and were not maintained by the association and he
has not seen much activity on the trails. He asked how critical the trails to the
maintenance of the ponds. Dietz said once we move ahead with this and get the ponds
cleaned out,he does not expect to see maintenance activity in the area for a long time.
Wagner said maybe it needs to be reviewed more closely to see if it's in the best
interest of the community and the neighborhood to maintain and develop trails.
Dave Hackman, 18212 Valley View Road,property 37, said he has lived there since
1978 and used the trails a lot before children and when his children were young. He
said by using the paths,he got to know all neighbors living by him. He said it
contributed to a sense of community. He said the condition of the paths is part of why
he has not used the paths recently. Hackman said where his property and property 38
come together, it is dangerous now for anybody to try to walk or negotiate a bicycle.He
said if the paths were in good condition,he and other people would be using them
again.He said he hasn't had problems with vandalism and he would like to see the
paths and ponds improved.
Leslie King, 18860 Pheasant Circle, said the path is a very convenient way for her and
her grandson to get to the park and if it weren't there, she'd have to walk six blocks on
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the street with no sidewalk. She said the drainage system behind her house, opposite
her back yard,has been affected by neighbors dumping grass clippings,trees and
construction type garbage. She asked if everything would be cleaned out of the back
area if this is approved. She said if we don't replace the trail,what becomes of the land
that still belongs to the city? She said the path is a good thing and families with
younger children appreciate the ability to get around without having to go along streets.
John Bickel, 7254 Tartan Curve, said most of the shade trees have been built up along
the creek and trail. He said he is concerned about the loss of shade trees. He said his
neighbors around him have contributed their own money to clean up duckweed in the
pond.
Darlene Wallen, 18860 Deer Field Trail, said she is concerned about the education of
the neighbors that will happen after the project passes. She said what can and cannot be
done regarding the maintenance. She said she is a big proponent of the paths being
done and the ponds being dredged.
Emmett Johnson, 7240 Tartan Curve, stated concern about safety and the strip of land
that for over 20 years has been overgrown and is an eyesore. He said he would like to
make a plea for something to be done with the overgrown area.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young,to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 4-0.
Case asked Dietz what makes special assessments befitting here and maybe not
elsewhere or are we talking about a precedent that as we rebuild our system in the next
30 years that this is the tool that we will be using. Dietz said the association and the
responsibility of the people who intended to have this trail doesn't create a reason to do
a special assessment but it helps to rationalize it. He said staff viewed this and went
into it believing that there was an obligation that was intended to be against these 258
properties to maintain these parcels and maintain the trail system. He said it didn't
work, so staff rationalized that if homeowners would at least bring them to City
standard, then ongoing perpetual maintenance by the City would be a reasonable
exchange in this process.
Dietz said there is clearly precedence in other cities to specially assess sidewalks, so
it's possible to do that. Case said someday if the Preserve came to us and requested the
City take it over and if the trails were in inferior shape,we might consider the same
vehicle to do that and then maintain as we do every other trail system. Dietz said that
would be a reasonable expectation.
Case asked about the shade trees along the corridor. He asked if the City could go in as
gently as possible and not impact the trees to the extent that residents have feared. Dietz
said yes, he does. He said he and Stu Fox walked the property last Friday and there is
one cottonwood tree that will be a problem,but for the most part they did not see a lot
of conflicts with trees.He said every effort would be made to keep screening to the
back yards. Dietz said some of the volunteer trees in the ditch sections between ponds
may need to come out to allow proper drainage between ponds.
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Case asked about the eyesore outlot. Dietz said he was made aware of it at the
neighborhood meeting and has not had a chance to discuss it with Lambert. He said he
did hear if the City cleans it up,neighbors may commit to maintaining it which brings
up the idea of what people are going to be allowed on City property which would be a
change in policy for other City owned property.
Case asked about the possibility of a sidewalk along Valley View. Dietz said the long
range plan is that there will be a trail on one side and sidewalk on the other that will
take you the entire length of the community. He said it is a good idea and for the most
part, this issue is better raised at the time that Highway 101 gets approved.
Mosman asked about regulations and education on fertilizers. She said there are new
regulations on phosphorus fertilizers and there is also education that Leslie Stovring is
coordinating. Dietz said that is correct and there needs to be more phosphorus-free
available. He said Stovring has a plan to target the Round Lake watershed and try to do
educational materials.
Mosman asked what cost and easements would be necessary for a sidewalk on Tartan
Curve. She asked why we are looking at putting a pathway system rather than a
sidewalk on Tartan Curve. Dietz said even though someone said they would prefer that,
he believes it would be 9-1 against anyone wanting a sidewalk in their front yard
because of past experience and lack of consensus among neighbors in other similar
neighborhoods. He said he would guess that a sidewalk on Tartan Curve on one side
would probably cost five times as much as the trail in the back yards.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to adopt the resolution ordering
Hidden Ponds Trail and Pond Improvements.
Case said the Council values people's perspectives and ultimately the Council tries to
make decisions based on the perceived good of all. He said this is a pre-existing trail
and we should be cautious about removing the trail. He said he doesn't think it's a
usage issue, it's a question of accessibility and having the trails available to everyone.
He said he is concerned about the funding part of it and creating a precedent. He said is
concerned about why the assessment process was being used for this and he is
comfortable with it. Case said the ponding piece is important also.
Young said the biggest factor in making this decision is the implications of this
decision on the trail system. He said a lot of work needs to be done and he would worry
what would happen if we were to vote against this proposal.
Tyra-Lukens stated that trails are a priority of the residents of Eden Prairie and she has
heard from those who moved here that they were attracted by the trail system. She said
she does not think it is something we should abandon.
Mosman said she understands concerns about people who are concerned about trails in
their back yards. She said people end up either doing fencing or landscaping for more
privacy or open up their yard areas and those who use the trails need to be sensitive to
the property owners.
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Tyra-Lukens asked Case if his intent was to vote on the proposal as originally presented
or with the elimination of the trail along Valley View Road. Case said it was with the
elimination of the trail along Valley View Road. Mosman agreed. Motion carried 4-0.
X. PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Young,to approve the Payment of Claims. The motion
was approved on a roll call vote with Case,Young and Tyra-Lukens voting "aye."
XI. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE NO. 20-2004 AMENDING CITY CODE
CHAPTER 2 BY AMENDING SECTION 2.05 RELATING TO SALARIES OF
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS
City Manager Scott Neal stated normally the custom would be to place this on the
consent agenda and because this ordinance has impact on the Council and there was
indication for comments, it was placed on the open part of the agenda. He said after the
first reading was made, staff looked at the Mayor's salary increase and a change was
made to the amount of the Mayor's salary increase. The amount was rounded up to
$825.00 from$808.33 per month. The first reading of this Ordinance was approved at
the July 6th Council meeting.
Young commented that he didn't think it was necessary so he voted against it.
Case said it is very important if Council is perceived as doing something for personal
benefit. He said he believes people who are involved in service generally find it
difficult to raise their own salaries. He pointed out that salaries were last raised in 1992
and we are really not raising salaries for ourselves, we are raising them for the position
and for future Councils. He said it is a value statement that asks what value we place
on the people who serve us. He said the time commitment is at about 5-10 hours a week
and we show value that we place on a job by the level of compensation. He said he is
comfortable with compensating for the future of people in these positions, serving the
people of Eden Prairie.
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case, to approve the Second Reading of an
Ordinance amending City Code Section 2.05 relating to salaries of the Mayor and
Council Members. Motion carried 3-1 with Councilmember Young opposed.
XII. PETITIONS,REOUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
XIII. REPORTS OF ADVISORY BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
XIV. APPOINTMENTS
XV. REPORTS OF OFFICERS
A. REPORTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS
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B. REPORT OF CITY MANAGER
C. REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
D. REPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
1. Review of Referendum Survey
Lambert said he has provided Council with a copy of a draft follow-up study
survey of what is proposed over the next 3-4 weeks if approved tonight. He said
a random sample survey would be done from people who voted in the
referendum and the goal of the survey is to find out why people voted yes or no
and what whey would support in the future,what would need changing,
circumstances that might change the outcome of a referendum in the fixture. He
said the Council should know, as the result of this survey,what items can be put
on a referendum and what things would need to happen to make those pass in a
referendum.
Lambert introduced John Chambers and Dave Bender from Market Line
Research and Rob Barrett,Parks and Natural Resources Commission Chair.
Lambert said he presented this to the Parks Commission last night and got a
fairly strong reaction that they had a lot of questions about the questions and the
necessity of the questions. He said the commission would like to see the survey
scaled down to a much shorter survey. He said they asked that Council continue
this item to the August 3 Council meeting and in the meantime, the commission
appointed a 4-member adhoc committee to meet with the members of Market
Line Research this Thursday at noon to go over the survey to come up with
something that would be more scaled down but still arrive at the same
information. Lambert asked how Council would like to proceed.
Tyra-Lukens said she had concerns about how some of the questions were
asked. She said in a question on page 196,the statements about the City of Eden
Prairie, she does not think the City and its capitol city should have two
referendums in the same year. She said we aren't—the school district is having
one and the city is having another—and it sounds like both are the same entity
with two referendums. She said she thinks Statement O is an extremely leading
statement because there has not been a large increase of property taxes over the
last four years. She said she's not sure why we're asking demographic questions
and also asked who is being surveyed.
Neal said it would be a good idea for the Council to concur and go into a survey
instrument like this with the same goals and objectives as the Parks Board and
he thinks it would be a good idea to send a couple members of the Council to
the same adhoc group. Case said he is concerned that the Parks and Recreation
board members may not have the same concerns as Councilmembers and
suggested an equal number of Parks members represent their Board and be able
to comment. Case said it would be fine to have other Parks &Recreation
members there as advisors. Tyra-Lukens and Case agreed to attend the meeting.
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MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to continue this item to the
August 2, 2004 Council Meetng. Motion carried 4-0.
E. REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
1. Technical Services Agreement for Hidden Pond Trail and Pond
Improvements,I.C. 03-5606
The feasibility hearing for the Trail and Pond Improvements in the Hidden
Ponds neighborhood is scheduled for July 20,2004. If Council has ordered the
improvements at the conclusion of the hearing, it is necessary and appropriate to
approve the contract for professional services to prepare the final plans and
construction administration services to allow the project to proceed in
accordance with the proposed schedule.
Dietz said this item was left off the Consent Calendar pending the decision on
Hidden Ponds Trail improvements, and it is recommended to hire HTPO to
perform the design, construction and administration services for that project.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman,to approve Professional Services
Agreement with HTPO, Inc. for final design and construction administration
services for Hidden Ponds Trail and Pond Improvements at an estimated cost of
$53,500.00. Motion carried 4-0.
2. Award Bid for Columbine Road Improvements (Resolution No. 2004-117),
I.C. 52-130
The project consists of the northerly 2000 feet of Columbine Road and
intersection improvements at Prairie Center. The Northwest Asphalt, Inc. bid of
$1,957,051.05 is below the feasibility report construction estimate of
$2,232,000. The completion of Columbine Road between Fountain Place and
Prairie Center Drive is a project identified in the City's Transportation Plan first
adopted in 1996. The acquisition of title to a tax forfeit land parcel has
provided the major right-of-way element needed for the project. Construction
plans were approved June 1, 2004.
Dietz said this item was held off the Consent Calendar because of uncertainty of
the Fountain Place project,but there is now a signed purchase agreement and a
signed developer's agreement so staff is recommending awarding the project to
Northwest Asphalt.
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Young, to adopt the resolution
accepting the bid of Northwest Asphalt, Inc. for Columbine Road
Improvements. Motion carried 4-0.
F. REPORT OF POLICE CHIEF
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G. REPORT OF FIRE CHIEF
H. REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY
XVI. OTHER BUSINESS
XVII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
4-0. Mayor Tyra-Lukens adjourned the meeting at 9:35 p.m.