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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP/FORUM
TUESDAY,DECEMBER 4,2001 CITY CENTER
5:00- 6:25 PM,HERITAGE ROOM H
6:30—7:00 PM, COUNCIL CHAMBER
CITY COUNCIL:
Mayor Jean Harris, Councilmembers Sherry Butcher,Ron Case, Jan Mosman, and Nancy Tyra-
Lukens
CITY STAFF:
City Manager Carl Jullie,Public Safety Director Jim Clark, Public Works Services Director
Eugene Dietz, Director of Parks and Recreation Services Bob Lambert, Community Development
and Financial Services Director Don Uram, City Attorney Ric Rosow, and Recorder Lorene
McWaters
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER—MAYOR JEAN HARRIS
Mayor Harris called the meeting to order at 5:45 p.m.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. CARL NEU WORKSHOP REPORT
Mayor Harris suggested going over each section of the Carl Neu Workshop Report,
which was received and approved by the Council at the July 10,2001, Council Meeting.
Councilmember Case noted that the Council had since discussed and made modifications
to the Council Forum beyond those recommended in the report.
Parks and Recreation Director Bob Lambert said he had been approached by several
Program Board Members with concerns he thought should be addressed. Lambert said
the current Boards and Commissions structure has been in place for almost two years,
and is in need of review. Under the former system, the Parks,Recreation and Natural
Resources Board served as a"sounding board"for a variety of citizen concerns. Under
the new system,the Parks and Recreation Citizen Advisory Commission is chartered to
advise staff on issues,while the Program Board reports directly to the Council. Lambert
said that a review of agenda items for both groups over the past year and a half revealed
much redundancy.
In September, Chair of the Program Board,Muna Yasiri, asked for a review of how the
Program Board was functioning. Lambert said some Program Board members expressed
that they felt the Program Board was working more like a"second"Parks Board than
anything else. Lambert said that the liaison to the Park and Recreation Citizen Advisory
Commission, Tria Mann, and the liaison to the Program Board, Laurie Obiazor, also feel
that there is no clear direction on how each group should be functioning.
City Council Workshop Minutes
December 4, 2001 —Page 2
Lambert said that citizen input has dropped to almost zero under the new Board and
Commission structure, and that staff is therefore making more decisions without the
benefit community input. He said the deer and goose management programs are
examples of this.
Lambert recommended that the Council to go back to a system that allows citizens to be
more closely involved—"a government of the people." He recommends combining the
Program Board and Parks and Recreation Citizen Advisory Commission to form a nine-
member Parks,Recreation and Natural Resources Board. He further recommended
requiring only development proposals that directly impact parks land use be reviewed by
the Parks Board.
Councilmember Tyra-Lukens agreed that the current structure is not working well. She is
concerned that if the Program Board is eliminated,there will not be an"all-
encompassing"board doing what the Program Board was intended to do. Lambert said
he considers oversight of the Boards and Commissions to be the Council's job. He also
said that once the City's Water Management Taskforce has completed its plan,there is no
immediate need for a separate Environmental Commission. He pointed out that the
Environmental Education Citizen Advisory Commission has not been active for the past
two years due to lack of applicants from the community.
Councilmember Butcher said she recalled the Program Board being formed as an
"umbrella" organization that could help with dissemination of information to and from all
of the boards and commissions. Lambert said the Program Board was not qualified to do
this in the first place, and that coordination of communication is more a staff function.
He said it has become clear that some of the Program Board members have been not well
informed about the issues before them. Butcher said she had heard from some Program
Board members that they would have liked more extensive training.
Lambert also said he believes the Parks and Recreation Citizen Advisory Commission
could oversee arts issues, particularly since the Arts and Culture Commission also has
been inactive for the past two years due to lack of applicants.
Case said that although he voted for the change in Boards and Commissions structure two
years ago,he remembers questioning the idea and was concerned at the time that the
changes were"going to gut the life out of some of these groups." He said that when they
couldn't fill all the Commissions (Environmental Education and Arts and Culture)two
years ago, that should have signaled a problem with the structure. However, Case said
that instead of abolishing the Arts and Culture Commission, he would like to open the
Commission up to the application process one more time to see if some of the individuals
who were active prior to reorganization might be willing to come back.
Tyra-Lukens suggested that all Commissions once again report directly to the Council.
Case said he too would like to hear directly from the Commissions. Councilmember
Mosman agreed that the current Board and Commission structure of"layers on layers"is
confusing to the community. She suggested using taskforces to address specific issues
that don't fall under the auspices of an existing Commission or Board.
City Council Workshop Minutes
December 4, 2001 —Page 3
Lambert noted that the application and interview process for appointing new Commission
members begins in less than a month, so the Council will need to make some decisions
by the next Council Meeting(December 18). Tyra-Lukens said she didn't feel rushed to
formalize any changes, and that it is more important to get people who are willing to
serve. She also asked if City Attorney Ric Rosow could begin drafting an Ordinance
change. Case said he would like to go forward with the proposed changes.
V. OTHER TOPICS
VI. OPEN FORUM
Laura Neuman said she was commenting on the Memorandum of Understanding signed
by the City and Metropolitan Airports Commission as an individual and not as a member
of any organization. She said she did not understand why the City was willing to enter
into this agreement. She said the major prohibition in the agreement—to Stage 2 Jetcraft
—would not"really change anything." She said MAC's own surveys show that
prohibiting Stage 2 Jetcraft will not make the noise go away and will not address
emission issues. She asked why the City was not pressing for an agreement from MAC
not to extend the runway again in the future. She also said the agreement does not
contain enough provisions on night-time maintenance runups. She said the agreement
allows for Eden Prairie to obtain additional information on environmental issues,but
prohibits the City from publicly opposing expansion. Neuman said the City should
demand additional information from MAC on air emissions. She criticized the way in
which MAC provides information on noise, and said it should include single incident and
other information. She said the City Council should make Eden Prairie residents aware
of the details of the Memorandum of Agreement and allow residents access to all
available information.
VII. OPEN PODIUM
Charlyn Nichols,resident of Hillside Drive in Eden Prairie, said she is being"constantly
being plagued by a party house of 20-somethings"in her neighborhood. There are
usually five or more cars in the driveway and she has endured verbal abuse from the
residents and their guests. She has called police several times this year to report fights,
broken beer bottles, and excessive noise. She said three Eden Prairie detectives to whom
she has spoken indicated they cannot charge the perpetrators of these incidents since the
police have not actually witnessed the violations. Since 1998, there have been 15 incident
reports filed for the residence.Nichols asked the City Council to consider attaching
monetary fines to the types of incidents reported at the house. She said Ordinances
should be changed to limit the number of people in a house to one unmarried adult per
bedroom and prohibit drinking alcohol within sight of the street. Councilmember Case
offered his sympathies and suggested the possibility of scheduling a workshop on the
topic of"party houses." Council also directed Police Chief James Clark to look into the
situation and report back with recommendations.
Vicki Pellar-Price, Eden Prairie resident and member of Zero Expansion,thanked the
Council for the difficult job they have taken on.
City Council Workshop Minutes
December 4, 2001 —Page 4
Gary Demee, 18-year resident of Eden Prairie and Zero Expansion member, thanked the
Council for their work on the Flying Cloud Airport negotiations. He said he was still
concerned with the prospect of an increase in commercial leasing resulting in even higher
traffic volumes at Flying Cloud Airport than anticipated.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Harris adjourned the meeting at 7:00 p.m.