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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP/FORUM
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3,2000 5:00-6:55 PM, CITY CENTER
COUNCIL CHAMBER
CITY COUNCIL:
Mayor Jean Harris, Councilmembers Sherry Butcher,Ronald Case,Ross Thorfinnson,Jr., and
Nancy Tyra-Lukens
CITY COUNCIL STAFF:
City Manager Chris Enger, Parks & Recreation Services Director Bob Lambert, Public Works
Services Director Eugene Dietz, Community Development and Financial Services Director Don
Uram, IT Manager Lisa Wu, IT Coordinator Mike Huffer, Director of Public Safety Services Jim
Clark, Director of Management Services Natalie Swaggert, City Attorney Roger Pauly, and Recorder
Lorene McWaters
VISITORS: Jan Mosman, Chair of the Heritage Preservation Commission
I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER—MAYOR JEAN HARRIS
Mayor Harris called the meeting to order at 5:15 p.m.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. TECHNOLOGY
Uram said the discussion would focus on provision of technology for Council use on City
business, including equipment and software necessary to connect Councilmembers to the
City's e-mail system(Groupwise). IT Manager Lisa Wu and IT Coordinator Mike Huffer
were present to answer questions.
Legal implications related to e-mail were covered, including:
■ Open Meeting Law -- Care must be taken not to violate the open meeting law. City
Attorney Roger Pauly explained that"serial communications"can violate the open
meeting law.
■ Records Management --Pauly noted that thousands of additional files are generated
through e-mail, and that under record retention laws these communications must be
maintained in the same manner as paper documents.
■ Public Access vs. Personal Privacy—Staff suggested Councihmembers use Groupwise
(City-provided) e-mail addresses only for City business and use a personal e-mail
address for all other matters. Huffer indicated that the City's system can be setup up so
that the City maintains permanent record of all Groupwise e-mails whether or not users
delete them from their personal systems
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Management Services Director Natalie Swaggert said that there will also be a"general"
Council e-mail address and that staff will forward items received at this address to all of the
Councilmembers.
Uram said staff proposed a$100 per month stipend for each Councilmember for technology
support. Approximately$60 month would cover the cost of a desktop computer,Internet
service(required for remote access to Groupwise), a printer and Microsoft Office software
(which is compatible with the City's software). The additional$40 per month could be used
to upgrade to a laptop computer,purchase high-speed internet access, or for a cell phone.
Uram noted that this is a stipend for technological support,but since some already have
computers, internet access or cell phones,it is up to each Councilmember to decide how to
use the money. The basic expectation would be for Councilmembers to be reachable via e-
mail.
Councilmember Butcher noted that the City currently provides pagers for the
Councilmembers and asked how much these cost per month. Enger said the cost is
approximately$7 per month. Butcher said she was uncomfortable with the increase from$7
per month to $100 for technology support.
Councilmember Case asked whether there would be a benchmark level of connectivity
expected if the stipend is approved. Case noted that cell phones,pagers and e-mail can all
be used to reach the City Council. Enger noted that not all Councihmembers carry or use
their pagers,but a decision on whether not to continue to provide them was up to the
Council. Enger suggested coming up with a standard of communication rather than asking
staff to contact each of the Councilmembers in a different manner depending on personal
preference. This consistency would allow staff to communicate with the Council more
effectively and efficiently.
Case asked what kinds of e-mail messages staff can send to Councilmembers without
violating open meeting laws. Pauly noted that if one Councilmember expresses a view on
an issue to a quorum of Councihnembers, either simultaneously or serially,this constitutes a
"meeting." Pauly emphasized that the law specifically prohibits"serial meetings of groups
of less than a quorum to avoid public hearing." Councilmember Case asked if dissemination
of information to all of the Councilmembers was allowable. Pauly said it is legal as long as
there is no discussion of the information by a quorum of members. Mayor Harris asked
Pauly to confirm that dialog between less than a quorum is permissible.
Case noted that unlike phone calls, a-mails are relatively easily traced and that members
would have to keep this in mind and"be incredibly careful."
Mayor Harris asked what would happen in the event that a Councilmember didn't need the
entire$100 stipend for technology support because they already have a computer with
internet access. Enger said that,in essence,the stipend can be used for whatever the
Councilmember chooses,but that the minimum expectation would be that they be available
via e-mail. Case said he believed the$60 per month for a computer system would be
completely defensible. Enger agreed that the$60 per month for a computer/software and
internet access was reasonable,but that staff had offered the$100 per month figure as a
choice for Council since individual members had suggested the need for e-mail,high speed
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internet and cell phone. Case noted that the City of Minnetonka provides its Council with
laptop computers with high-speed Roadrunner internet connections. Uram has contacted the
City of Minnetonka and they indicate it is too early to determine how well this system is
working. Uram has also spoken to City staff in Brooklyn Center who indicate the City-
owned laptops provided Council have not worked out as well as they had expected. They
indicated they would consider using the proposed Eden Prairie stipend model next year
when the issue comes before the Council again. Uram said the City of St. Louis Park has
expressed similar feelings.
Case thanked staff for responding to the Council's need for greater connectivity, and said
that since other cities are moving in this direction it is time Eden Prairie did so.
Enger noted that the Council would have to approve a resolution during the Council Meeting
in order to institute the stipend. Butcher reiterated that she was uncomfortable with the idea
of a stipend, since the Council is already compensated for their work. She worried that the
stipend would push the Council's salaries higher than those in comparable communities.
She said that, out of dedication to her position, she already owns a computer and cell phone,
which she uses for Council business. Councilmember Tyra-Lukens said not all
Councilmembers have the luxury of being able to provide their own technology, and that the
stipend would help in this situation. Butcher said it is still a big reach to go from$7 a month
to $100 a month. She also noted that the position of Councilmember is part-time, and
wondered if increased connectivity may bring with it expectations of Councilmembers being
available 24 hours a day. Enger said that per diem payments for attendance at special
meetings are what make Eden Prairie Councilmember salaries comparable to similar
communities.
Case said the question really is what needs to be done to connect Councilmembers. He
attended a conference in San Diego in December at which only 10 out of 300 attendees did
not have City-provided e-mail accounts. He said that as government, Councilmembers
clearly need to have a certain level of connectivity.
Case said that the Council might need to set a standard of connectivity, since Councils in
other communities have done so. Enger said$60 per month would cover the basic
computer/e-mail package and some additional to help offset other choices in communication
technology Councilmembers may choose: The additional$40 would allow for
enhancements. Tyra-Lukens said she was comfortable with the additional$40 for
enhancements. She said she had used both her computer and cell phone for several City-
related issues that day alone.
IV. COUNCIL PROCESS
Mayor Harris presented an organization chart of City Council Process that appeared in
November 1997 issue of Public Management. She noted that it was very similar to one the
City Council had worked out together in May of the same year. Harris asked the
Councilmembers to reflect on the City's published code of conduct and to indicate whether
or not they wished to continue to adhere to these guidelines or if there were parts that were
troublesome or missing.
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There was general agreement that the guidelines are still relevant and should be adhered to.
Harris asked if anyone had any other related issues they wished to discuss.No issues were
raised.
V. STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES AT-LARGE PROGRAM
Director of Management Services Natalie Swaggert presented final recommendations for
student representatives on Commissions. Swaggert said that 15 applications were received
by the September 22 deadline, and that staff worked hard to place as many applicants as
possible on Commissions. Three students each were recommended for appointment to the
Human Rights and Diversity Citizens Advisory Commission,the Heritage Preservation
Commission, and the Parks and Recreation Citizen Advisory Commission. In the past only
two students were appointed to each Commission. In addition, staff was proposed a new
Student Representative At-Large Program for applicants not permanently assigned to a
Commission. This program would allow students to attend and participate in six different
Board and Commission meetings and to audit a City Council Meeting. The Council
expressed support of the program.
VI. OTHER
Mayor Harris said the question of whether or not Councilmembers should support or
endorse candidates in the Council election had been raised to her earlier. She asked for
input on of what the Councilmembers felt was acceptable. It was agreed that no campaign
buttons or t-shirts should be worn by Councilmembers in the Chamber. .
Councilmember Case said that it seemed"like a tough one to want to tie us to some system."
Harris said she was not sure where to go with the discussion,but that Case had mentioned in
an earlier conversation that he would like the topic broached at the Workshop. Tyra-Lukens
said there is a difference between positive and negative campaigning, and that any
campaigning should remain positive. She noted that it is common for legislators to support
particular candidates, and that it makes common sense to support candidates who are of like
minds. Butcher said the appropriateness of supporting particular candidates would depend
on the manner in which it was done. She asked if the Minnesota League of Cities has a
position on this issue. Mayor Harris said she didn't know. Butcher said she thought it might
not be appropriate for the Councilmembers to actually"endorse"candidates. City Attorney
Pauly said he didn't know of any prohibition against endorsement. Hams summarized that
it seemed to be the consensus of the Council that endorsement of candidates could be
acceptable as long as it was not done in a negative way.
VH. COUNCIL FORUM—STEVE AND KATHY SATHER
City Attorney Roger Pauly advised the Council that due to pending litigation between the
City and Swanson, they should not comment on the issues presented by the Sathers.
Mr. Sather provided to Council a thorough narrative of the history of his investigation and
meetings leading to the purchase of his home at 90432 Purdy Road and events that have
occurred since. He provided Council with a series of letters to support his comments
(attached). In summary,he made the following points:
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• An erosion problem has been on going since 1994 adjacent to his property and that of
neighbors to the south(Swansons).
• There is a fifty-foot drop adjacent to his home and his retaining wall is failing.
• Considerable investment has been made by Sathers and Swanson to resolve the issue
(approximately$23,000).
• The problem has accelerated since 1998.
• The problem emanates from the size of the drainage area directed through a culvert
under Riverview Road,the removal of a berm on the Swanson property and drainage
from the cul-de-sac in front of his home.
• He previously made an offer of$50,000 to resolve the problem,but would have to spend
$30,000 to $40,000 to do remedial work if the larger drainage problem is not properly
addressed.
• He made an effort to avoid litigation as the means to resolve the issue.
• Staff has not been responsive in this matter.
Mr. Sather asked for a response from the City in regard to what to do before winter. Mayor
Harris expressed regret for Mr. Sather's experience and asked for time to review the
attached materials. Roger Pauly advised that this matter could be the subject of a closed
meeting for further discussion.
VIH. ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Harris adjourned the meeting at 6:55 p.m.