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EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2024 7:00 PM—CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: John Kirk, Frank Sherwood, Andrew Pieper, Ed
Farr, Trisha Duncan, Robert Taylor, Dan Grote,
Charles Weber; Phou Sivilay
CITY STAFF: Jeremy Barnhart, City Planner; Carter Schulze, City
Engineer; Matt Bourne, Manager of Parks and
Natural Resources; Kristin Harley, Recording
Secretary
I. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Chair Pieper called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE – ROLL CALL
Commission member Weber was absent.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Grote moved, seconded by Duncan to approve the agenda. MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
IV. MINUTES
MOTION: Farr moved, seconded by Taylor to approve the minutes of September 9,
2024. MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. MARSHALL GARDENS (2024-10))
Request for:
• Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to
Medium Density Residential on 8.69 acres and from Low Density
Residential to Parks and Open Space on 12.95 acres
• Planned Unit Development Concept Plan Review on 32.11 acres
• Zoning Change from Rural to R1-9.5 on 7.21 acres, Rural to RM-2.5
on 8.69 acres, and Rural to Parks and Open Space on 12.95 acres
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• Preliminary Plat of 32.11 acres into 16 lots, four outlots, and right of
way
• Site Plan Review on 32.11 acres
The applicant, Cody Dietrich of Lake West Development, displayed a PowerPoint
and detailed the application. He introduced colleague Kelsey Thompson and Lake
West owner Curt Fretham.
The property was located west of Flying Cloud Airport and had been owned by
the Marshall family for 70 years. It sits on the bluffs overlooking the Minnesota
River to the south. This was designated by the Comprehensive Plan as an infill
site, calling for increased density to provide housing. The applicant wishes to
convert part of the site to medium density. The higher density would be kept away
from the existing homes to the north.
The applicant began to work with staff a year ago, attended two City Council
workshops, held two neighborhood meetings and submitted the application in
August. If approved, construction would start in summer of 2025. The northwest
corner (Outlot A) would be a community garden first available to the residents of
the development, then to the wider community. Outlots B and C on the northwest
side would be additional stormwater ponds. 15 villa homes would run across the
width of the development, with 60-foot lots and single-level dwellings.
On the south side, the project would provide a townhome feel (Stacked
Townhome Flats), with four separate buildings on top of an underground garage
to provide 100 units. There would be a pool, fire pits and other amenities. On the
west side of the property there would be a garden shed and a dog run. The bluff
area would be deeded to the City, and the development provides 60 percent of the
site as open green space and preserved bluff area.
During the neighborhood meeting, neighbors had expressed concern with the
proposed connection of Crestwood Terrace through the development to LaForet
Drive and Dell Road. Others had commented on the separation between the single
family homes and the neighborhood to the north. Dietrich provided drawings
showing a 90-foot separation between the proposed and existing homes, along
with tree plantings for screening and buffering. The community garden offered
250 plots of various areas and accenting raised planter beds. It would be owned
and administered by the HOA through a non-profit and a board. Dietrich
displayed several renderings of the proposed development and explained the
sustainable elements such as EV charging, stormwater improvements, and solar
panels on the rooves. He displayed the unit and villa floorplans and the locations
of the elevators.
Farr asked for and received confirmation the flats and the villas would be all of
the same color and that the units above the parking garage would be a wood-
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frame, rather than concrete, structure. He asked for the reason the backyards were
not color-coded as the rest of the open space, and Dietrich explained the
backyards could not be counted in the open space calculation. Therefore, the 60
percent of open space could not include those backyards. Farr asked for and
received confirmation there were two trash rooms in the basement of the flat
building, requiring residents to take an elevator. He added this was outside the
purview of the commission.
Duncan requested clarification on the buffer area configurations between the villa
homes and the existing neighborhood. She also asked for and received
confirmation the buffer areas in the development there were existing trees that
might be removed. Pieper asked if east side villa units 13, 14, and 15 could be
flipped with the community garden. Dietrich replied the result would be a long
and narrow garden, not feasible from a design perspective. This was a
consequence of having a road through the development. He explained the noise-
reduction efforts of the design.
Farr asked if twin homes were considered to match the house widths of the
surrounding neighborhoods and increase the space between the twin homes. He
noted there would be Comprehensive Plan and zoning issues with this change.
Dietrich replied this had not been considered. Fretham replied the design was
geared toward single-family homes. The final result was the most popular
compromise, as they had considered a development entirely of single-family
homes as well. Barnhart added the property was guided for low-density
residential, and in review staff saw the benefits of a mixed-use development while
keeping single-family homes to the north.
Taylor asked for and received confirmation there were only two entrances to the
garage for the flats, on the east and west. Dietrich added the garage was
completely open across the building. It would hold 200 stalls, plus 50 outside for
guests. The pool would only be for the HOA residents. Duncan asked for and
received confirmation staff followed the guidelines of the Comprehensive Plan
from the beginning of this design which guided the site for low-density
residential. Kirk added in Eden Prairie the bluff was sacred, and this development
as presented protected it.
Sivilay asked for and received confirmation the square footage of the foundation
was 1,700 to 1,800 square feet per unit and 3,475 square feet per loft. The villas
would start at $1.2 million, and the condos would start at $900,000.00 to 1.3
million.
Barnhart presented the staff report. This development needed a number of
approvals: a Comprehensive Plan amendment; a zoning change from rural to the
low- and middle-density sections and the parks and green space section instead of
a straight, flat, uniform zoning; and a PUD with waivers to allow a unique infill
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development and to preserve the community garden area. There were no waivers
for density, setback, or height. This was a good example of the PUD flexibility in
applying the zoning regulations to a property. He listed again the sustainable
features of the application and its compliance with Eden Prairie’s affordability
housing goals. The parking met City code. Staff recommended approval subject to
the conditions outlined in the staff report.
Kirk asked for and received confirmation from Kelsey Thompson that the original
owners of the farm made the community garden a condition of the sale.
Thompson explained this was also a result of researching a community-social
benefit. There was a great demand in Eden Prairie for community gardens. Grote
asked how many would be individual plots versus a garden club. Thompson
replied their site plan would allow for combining plots as residents chose. Grote
asked for and received confirmation a water spigot would be provided. Taylor
asked for and received confirmation the plots would be assigned on a first-come,
first-served basis.
Farr asked for and received confirmation there was no buffering or screening
requirement with a single-family home next to another.
Schulze gave the results of the traffic study. It looked at several surrounding
intersections, both at build condition and trip generation. A single-family dwelling
generally generated six-10 trips per day; a multi-family building generally
generated six to seven trips per unit per day. There were expecting no operational
issues from the traffic study. The study concluded 700-900 trips per day, 50 each
in the morning and evening peak hours. An access to the south (Dell Road) to
Flying Cloud Drive was provided for the benefit of the potential new residents.
Farr asked for the construction sequencing of the road improvements versus the
development itself. Schulze replied they would be simultaneous. The culvert
along Dell Road would begin first in 2025, while the flats were being constructed.
Farr stated he anticipated questions from neighbors north of the project and asked
if the road there could accommodate new commuters. Schulze replied they would,
as this development would still generate lower traffic than the total load of those
roads.
Sherwood asked what the connection to Flying Cloud Drive would look like.
Schulze replied it would resemble Dell Road north of Crestwood Terrace, a thirty-
foot wide collector road with a trail, completed at the end of 2026.
Duncan asked for and received confirmation there were similar developments
near the bluffs but Barnhart did not have specifics about the multi-family
building. Kirk suggested Hennepin Village as an example of this. Grote asked for
and received confirmation there were 3.6 homes per acre in this development, but
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was denser at the southern end (7-8 units per acres). Barnhart explained the
density calculation.
Pieper opened the public Hearing
Mark and Beth Reese, residents at 9744 LaForet Drive, stated they had sent a
letter, which Barnhart replied he received. As residents for 22 years, their primary
concern was the amount of possible traffic with this development. 175 cars
traveled from Crestwood Drive to Canopy Trail per day. The exit flow from the
townhome, the most densely populated, would exit north through Canopy Trail,
impacting their neighborhood. He expected ten times the current amount of
traffic, and expressed concern for existing families and children along the streets.
They also objected to having to look at two houses across from them with 20-foot
setbacks without trees. They requested the development be shifted 30 feet to the
west or even eliminate one of the 1.3 million homes. They also objected to the fee
for the community gardens. They requested Canopy Trail be closed.
Ted Mellby, resident of 1181 Germaine Terrace and a former attorney, questioned
the definition of a “wavier,” calling it a “variance” and questioning its legality. He
read from the staff report: “None of the outlots including the community garden
may be developed without platting” and suggested the commission remove the
final two words. He also requested an archeological study done to find historically
significant artifacts or features along the river bluffs, as he understood this to be a
prerequisite. He also suggested the commission check this development against a
copy of the airport safety zone map.
Becky Somerville, resident of 9735 LaForet Drive, opposed opening Canopy
Trail, as her family had already experienced a car-pedestrian accident. She
doubted the new residents would use Dell Road instead of the smaller residential
roads. She feared the increase in traffic. Her son expressed concern at the 900-trip
figure.
Richard Koppy, resident of 9872 Crestwood Terrace and a former city engineer,
was concerned that Eden Prairie was not pulling together a cohesive plan with the
development of farms and the connection of trails and pedestrian crossings. He
described the message “when the farm is developed” as an answer to his question.
He also expressed concern about traffic and speeds on Dell Road. He suggested a
traffic roundabout at Crestwood Terrace and Dell Road. He asked when the trail,
which was not part of this development application, would be completed, as there
was nothing yet proposed by the City. He also did not see the traffic produced by
the community gardens as part of the traffic study. He stated he had tried to find
an example of a community garden in Eden Prairie as a reference but could not
find one. He also asked what the fee for the garden would be used for, and how it
would look in the winter. He commended the development plan but wished to see
more integration.
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Robert Duerr, resident of 9688 Geisler Road, echoed Grote’s question about the
actual density of the south side of the development. He questioned why the
natural buffer had not been extended all the way across the length of the
development, and also the affordability of the condos. He expressed concern
about traffic going through neighborhoods instead of along the back of the
development as planned. He urged that profit not be the driving factor.
Gupreet Vig, resident of 9727 Geisler Road, stated his concerns were addressed
by previous speakers. He added he attended the two neighborhood meetings and
appreciated the hard work that went into this project, but questioned the actual
effect of the community garden. He wished the Planning Commission to get
answers from the developer how this non-profit development would actually work
with the garden, leasing, and other essential questions.
Ryan Devin, resident of 9839 Crestwood Terrace, expressed his strong concern
about traffic with so many children in the neighborhood, and with the
conversation of a dirt road to a paved one, increasing both traffic and speeds. He
advocated a wider study of the neighborhood environment be done. He also
doubted the community gardens would be a success due to rodents and other
pests. He also worried about parking, including with the dog park—parking was
scarce during sports events.
Einad Ahmad, resident of 9751 LaForet Drive, expressed concern about noise
from this development, as he already heard noise from Flying Cloud Drive. This
development was a surprise and he worried about increased traffic.
Andrew Grabiel, resident of 9888 Crestwood Terrace, stated the aerial view did
not capture the impact of the three-story buildings on the site. He asked the
commission to please consider impact of traffic, as this neighborhood was not
walkable to major amenities, and encourage the traffic to indeed use Dell Road.
Barbara Hamilton-Sustad, resident of 9711 Geisler Road, stated she had bought
her home six months ago and knew nothing of this development, but from talking
with neighbors, found the proposal more aggressive than discussed last year. She
added the rendering was deceptively creating more space between buildings than
there would be. Many ash trees were dead or dying and would soon be removed,
so residents would be staring at bare buildings. She agreed the situation could be
worse but did it need to be this big. She pleaded for the commission to consider
the impact of traffic on the children. She asked that something done across the
whole north line because with this development the aesthetic would change.
MOTION: Grote moved, seconded by Duncan to close the public hearing.
Motion carried 8-0.
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Kirk explained the commission members were volunteers. Being the senior
member on the commission, two things he had learned: City staff spent a lot of
time and resources doing its due diligence, and the owner of the property had a
right to sell, as the neighbors had rights to speak and seek changes, and a good
balance was ideal. The commission’s job was to find a compromise and a balance
and take this to a vote, though tonight’s vote was not final—the City Council
would subsequently hold a public hearing, listen to residents’ concerns, and take
the final vote. There were a lot of factors to be taken into consideration, and the
best solution may not please everyone.
Farr noted two recurring concerns: traffic and lack of detail in the garden plan. He
appreciated the question of what the garden would look like in the winter. He
suggested the commission could offer comments to the applicant regarding the
garden to result in a more detailed concept. He suggested a proof-of-parking plan.
Regarding traffic, he stated the streets in Eden Prairie were overdesigned and had
more than enough capacity for cars. The new residents of this development would
become the new neighbors of the current residents, and he warned against this
becoming an adversarial situation.
Dietrich added the construction of the community garden would be in phases
broken into four quadrants, and until that time it would remain an open green
space, with additional trees planted to make it more pleasing, as referenced in
their memo to staff. The garden would be operated by the non-profit, and there
would be an initiation fee plus a multi-year lease structure, and the leasees would
be responsible for the gardens, otherwise the owners would be notified their
garden was in violation. The garden space would have fencing around it, be tilled
at the start of the year, then cleaned up in autumn and tilled at end of year. There
would be 30 or 40 public parking spots for that garden. The dog run would be
private and administered by the HOA.
Thompson added she was working with a Master Gardener at the Minnesota
Landscape Arboretum on best practices and planned to plant more climate-
resilient plants. There were backup plans if the community garden was not in
demand. During the winter, the space would hold snow. Dietrich added there
would also be perimeter plantings, avoiding the utility easements, of course. The
residents would be free to either plant vegetables or flowers. The City was not
interested in acquiring the land. The garden could be tweaked to suit the needs of
the community.
Duncan stated she had not seen that memo in the commissioner’ packet, and
Barnhart stated he had received it but warned the commission against exceeding
its purview in getting into these HOA level details; staff would work with the City
Council on certain matters.
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Farr encouraged the developer to show more creativity with the community
garden design. The layout was very efficient but somewhat sterile, and it needed a
guided principle plan and input from a landscape architect, and more trees. Taylor
asked if there were other options to the garden. Dietrich replied there would be
three to five more homes and green space.
Sherwood suggested the applicant remove the garden, move the villas to the west,
rework the plan, and move the whole concept to the south. Sivilay noted with a
move south the development could tear into the bluff trees. Taylor observed a
shift to the west reduced the size of the garden. Farr suggested trading the green
space at Crestwood Terrace for the backyard at units 13, 14, and 15. Dietrich
replied the resulting front setback would trigger more waiver requirements.
Barnhart counseled the commission to identify the major concerns for the City
Council, not redesign the development at the dais.
Duncan asked for and received clarification the garden space was needed to
balance the waivers. Kirk asked for and received clarification such waivers on an
infill project were not unusual. Thompson stated what set this development
proposal apart from the others proposed at this site was the green space that could
be enjoyed not only by the residents but by the larger community.
Farr asked Schulze to comment on the road through the development. Schulze
replied it followed City specifications and the Comprehensive Plan, and it was
always the preference to make any road accessible rather than terminating in a
dead end. Parking would be allowed along the side of the road. Discussion
followed on the connection to Dell Road. Farr stated he interpreted the applicant’s
plans for the garage as allowing two-way traffic, and Dietrich confirmed this. He
added he expected residents to be mostly empty-nesters. Farr also addressed the
consolidation of projects: the private application was before the commission
tonight, whereas the public improvements did not usually come before the
Planning Commission. Private development could trigger public improvements,
but they often occurred separately.
Taylor asked for and received confirmation the snow removal on Crestwood
would be the City’s responsibility, being a public road, whereas all other removal
would be the responsibilities of the HOAs. Schulze confirmed the project had
snow storage areas.
Duncan asked for what was and was not allowed regarding the proximity of the
airport. Barnhart replied the development was located far enough from the airport
that noise would be the only issue. There will be a notification to that effect in the
Development Agreement. Pieper asked what would happen if the gardens did not
work out and the applicant wished to build more homes instead. The lot would
need to be replatted, but Barnhart stated he did not see that as a development
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option, and he encouraged the applicant to get all questions answered before final
approval.
Kirk stated for the current neighborhood residents that, as random as some of
these points may have seemed to be, this was a healthy and appropriate
discussion. Every development was a balance, and the owner of the property
needed to get a fair deal, as this was their retirement money, and every developer
needed a threshold of units to pay for the development, as well as to make a
certain profit. He commended this development, which focused on ensuring the
bluffs would be protected.
Farr stated he found this to be an exciting architectural opportunity that veered
away from conventional three story structures. He commended the gable design
and character depth, and appreciated the thought that went into this. This would
be a successful project.
Pieper echoed Farr’s comments. He added he disagreed with the through road but
supported the project.
MOTION: Kirk moved, seconded by Farr to recommend approval of the
Comprehensive Plan Amendment from Low Density Residential to Medium Density
Residential on 8.69 acres and from Low Density Residential to Parks & Open Space
on 12.95 acres; and Planned Unit Development Concept Plan Review on 32.11
acres; Zoning Change from Rural to R1-9.5 on 7.21 acres, Rural to RM-2.5 on
8.69 acres, and Rural to Parks and Open Space on 12.95 acres; Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers on 7.21 acres, Preliminary Plat of
32.11 acres into 16 lots, four outlots, and right of way; Site Plan Review on 32.11
acres, as represented in the November 18, 2024 staff report subject to the
conditions listed in the staff report. Motion carried 7-1 (Grote).
PLANNERS’ REPORT
MEMBERS’ REPORTS
Farr announced Eden Prairie resident Mark Weber wrote an in-depth historical
article in the Eden Prairie Local News how Eden Prairie accumulated its open
space over the decades and invited commissioners to read it.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Taylor moved, seconded by Sherwood to adjourn. Motion carried 8-
0. The meeting was adjourned at 9:37 p.m.