HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 07/15/2024APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, JULY 15, 2024 7:00 P.M. Meeting
Heritage Rooms, City Hall
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Schumacher (Chair); Paul Thorp
(Vice-Chair); Rod Fisher; George Maxwell;
Robert Bowes; Andy Ludowese; Catherine
Lau
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Vice Chair Thorp called the meeting to order at 6:59 p.m. Commission members
Schumacher and Bowes were absent. Mary Margaret Mellen and Devyn Stanton joined
the meeting.
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
Mellen read the land acknowledgement statement.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Fisher moved, seconded by Lau to approve the agenda. Motion carried 4-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Lau moved, seconded by Fisher to approve the minutes of the June 17, 2024
meeting amended to correct facts about the Bluestone and Otherday families in Section
V, No. 3. Motion carried 4-0.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. REVIEW THE DRAFT HERITAGE PRESERVATION SITE
NOMINATION FOR THE RAILROAD DEPOT, DETERMINE
ELIGIBILITY AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL
Novak-Krebs explained the process: the first step was the HPC make a
determination that the property was eligible for local designation, and make a
recommendation to the City Council. The application then went to the State
Historic Preservation Office (SHPO), and then the Eden Prairie Planning
Commission. The final step was consideration by the City Council. SHPO did not
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necessarily approve or disapprove the application, but it had to be shared with that
organization.
Thorp stated he had a meeting with the Historical Society on Thursday to recruit
some volunteers to help clear the site of invasive plants.
[Maxwell arrived at 7:04 p.m.]
Novak-Krebs read aloud Eden Prairie’s criteria in the Ordinance for determining
eligibility for local designation. Discussion followed on the applicability of the
criteria. Maxwell stated Eden Prairie would not have a town without the Depot
and Novak-Krebs agreed. Fisher stated he found criterion Two to be applicable,
and Thorp and Novak-Krebs agreed. Thorp stated he found One, Two and Four to
be applicable (association with events that contributed to the broad patterns of
local history, association with the lives of persons significant with the City’s past,
and has yielded or may be likely to yield information important to history or pre-
history).
Fisher asked Novak-Krebs to walk the commission members through the
submittal. Novak-Krebs went through the summary, the planning information
(location, classification, boundaries, and present use) and the various historical
maps along with a map showing current Eden Prairie. Discussion followed on the
various stations along this rail line. Thorp suggested including the photograph of
the railroad trestle, and Novak-Krebs agreed to do this. Thorp stated he had hoped
to find the foundation of the water tank near the Depot. Novak-Krebs also
displayed a 1937 aerial photograph showing the water tank, and a 1945
photograph showing the tank and pump house had been removed. She displayed a
railroad inventory map from 1917 showing the Depot and the water tank, and the
platform. Discussion followed on a pixelated sign on the Depot which Stanton
read as “Adam’s Express Company.” A 1930s photographs showed the Miller’s
store and the creamery in the vicinity of the Depot. She displayed present-day
photographs and explained the locations of the removed historic landmarks.
Fisher asked if a narrative regarding significance would be included. Novak-
Krebs stated she would get those to the commission members. It was included in
the ap nomination report. Discussion followed on the significance of the site
regarding the milling of wheat and the production of vegetables and milk.
Novak-Krebs displayed the section explaining the function of the water tower and
pump house, and the existence of a section crew who lived nearby. Thorp stated
their housing had been on the north side of the tracks, near Eden Prairie Road.
She summarized the section that explained the community that grew up around
the Depot; Miller’s store was used as a community meeting space and for dances.
The Depot also provided the telegraph. Amie Smith Douglas was a trained
telegrapher who also trained other telegraphers, many of whom became depot
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agents. The Smith-Douglas House was a hotel at the time. David Frank Douglas
took boarders by stagecoach to Chanhassen and Excelsior. Passenger service
ended in 1945. In the 1980s and early 1990s the rail became the bike and walking
trail.
Novak-Krebs summarized the preservation management section, which
emphasized education of the public and the installation of a small sign to direct
visitors to the interpretive panel located near the new pump house. Discussion
followed on the possible interpretation of the site for the public.
Thorp stated any work on the property had to have the permission of Hennepin
County. Novak-Krebs stated once designated this property would be on
“everyone’s radar” regarding any disturbance of the site.
Thorp stated this application for local designation might help finally get the
Smith-Douglas-Moore House on the national register as well. Novak-Krebs
agreed.
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Fisher, to affirm this site was eligible
for local designation under City Ordinance One, Two and Four and recommend
that the City Council approve the designation. Motion carried 5-0.
B. REVIEW THE DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) FOR THE
BOOK ON THE HISTORY OF THE NATIVE AMERICANS IN EDEN
PRAIRIE
Novak-Krebs stated this was a request for proposals, with a deadline of November
1, and she advised two months’ notice. Thorp noted there was no funding; a
ballpark number was needed. Maxwell proposed changing the language “a wealth
of information” to “some information.” Novak-Krebs replied the proposal
included statements that there is “preliminary” research and “further” research is
needed. Mellon suggested the necessary work was compiling what information
was already collected. Fisher suggested “Local residents had a wealth of
information, but further information needs to be developed and assembled.”
Discussion followed on the aim and scope of this work. Novak-Krebs stressed the
difference was between a book and the report DeCarlo’s contributed to
Bloomington. Fisher suggested a book for general readers with facts and stories,
and Novak-Krebs agreed. Mellon asked for comparable books and stressed that
references were important in consulting projects. Fisher suggested Peter
DeCarlo’s book on Fort Snelling as a comparable work, and Novak-Krebs agreed.
Maxwell urged there be a comprehensive bibliography in the back.
Discussion followed on length of the proposed work. Thorp stated he feared there
was not much information. Maxwell suggested a work of 100-150 pages. Fisher
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agreed, saying DeCarlo’s book was 120 pages. Maxwell agreed, saying his own
book was that length.
Fisher asked if the proposal would “go out blind,” and Novak-Krebs replied that it
did not have to. She suggested approaching Maravelas, DeCarlo, and Jane Carroll
who was a recommendation from . Fisher stated Javier Avalos might agree to
review the book, and also Kate Bean.
Thorp suggested sending an RFP to John Gertz. Maxwell recommended against
limiting the commission’s options, and Novak-Krebs would try to compile other
names as well. Thorp cautioned that in the past a public bid might yield proposals
out of scope, and Maxwell replied that was true; however, he added the process
must allow for possibilities. Novak-Krebs offered to find out the whether the RFP
needs to be published anywhere. There was no minimum number of consultants
that she knew of. Fisher stated four or five names would be enough and Novak-
Krebs agreed.
Novak-Krebs stated it would take consultants two months to respond to the RFP.
Maxwell added it would take one to two months to meet and discuss the
consultant candidates, 3-12 months for them to meet with staff, six months to
meet with the HPC to discuss the progress and target, 12 months to end the
project, with a proposal due by November 1, 2025. He found this reasonable if the
application was submitted by August 2024.
Novak-Krebs offered to make the recommended changes and send the completed
draft to the commission members.. Maxwell suggested also posting it publicly.
Fisher asked for and received confirmation the commission was not presuming
where the funding came from. Novak-Krebs clarified the scope of the application.
Discussion followed on a possible review board.
Maxwell suggested once the book was completed the commission could offer
author-signed copies for preorder. He offered Green Card Voices as a model.
Thorp stated he, Fisher, and Kathie Case went on a cruise of Lake Minnetonka
narrated by Paul Maravelas. Discussion followed on the historic significances of
Big Island.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
VII. REPORTS OF SUBCOMMITTEES
A. NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY OUTREACH
B. NEW HERITAGE PRESERVATION SITE DESIGNATIONS
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C. RENOVATION/MAINTENANCE DEVELOPMENT
D. DOCUMENTATION/HISTORICAL RECORDINGS/OUTREACH
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
Novak-Krebs announced the annual Preserve Minnesota conference would be held
September 18-20 in Red Wing. There was a scholarship offered this year that would
cover registration and hotel; the City would be able to pay and get reimbursement.
Attendees would be responsible for meals, but it might be possible to get reimbursement
for that as well. The City could send two commission members, and those interested
should email her.
IX. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Thorp stated there would be a meeting on Thursday.
There would be tables set up at the Dorenkemper House with old farm tools for kids to
touch, and old fashioned games to play as well.
X. FYI ITEMS
XI NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, August 19, 2024 at 6:00 p.m. at the
Moran House, 17155 Terrey Pine Drive, Eden Prairie. (Marcia and Brittney)
XII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Fisher moved, seconded by Ludowese to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:59 p.m.