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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY DECEMBER 18, 2023 7:00 P.M. Heritage Rooms City Hall
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steven Schumacher-Chair; Paul Thorp-Vice Chair, George
Maxwell, Robert Bowes, Rod Fisher, Andy Ludowese,
Melanie Willett, Catherine Lau
STUDENT MEMBERS: Abha Gupta, Abhinov Koutharapu, Amuktha Pothamsetti,
Berit Berggren, Nikhill Andrew, Owen Caruth, Sasha Allen
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING ON NOVEMBER 20, 2023
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS 2024 WORK PLAN
B. DISCUSS STUDENT LED VIDEOS OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES
C. UPDATE ON MEETING WITH SHELDON WOLFCHILD (PAUL)
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. FOLLOW-UP ON DISCUSSION WITH JOHN LEBLANC RE: HOLASEK HOUSE
VII. REPORTS FROM SUBCOMMITTEES
A. NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY/OUTREACH
B. NEW HERITAGE PRESERVATION SITE DESIGNATIONS
C. RENOVATION/MAINTEANCE/DEVELOPMENT
D. DOCUMENTATION/HISTORICAL RECORDINGS/OUTREACH
VIII REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
IX. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
A. GENERAL UPDATE – (PAUL/BOB)
X. FYI ITEMS
XI. NEXT MEETING
JANUARY 22, 2023
XII. ADJOURNMENT
UNAPPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2023 7:00 P.M. Meeting
Heritage Rooms, City Hall
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Schumacher (Chair); Paul Thorp
(Vice-Chair); Rod Fisher; George Maxwell;
Robert Bowes; Andy Ludowese; Melanie
Willett; Catherine Lau
STUDENT MEMBERS: Abha Gupta, Abhinov Koutharapu,
Amuktha Pothamsetti, Berit Berggren,
Nikhill Andrew, Owen Caruth, Sasha Allen
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Schumacher called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Absent were commission
members Ludowese and Willett, and student representative Koutharapu, Gupta, and
Allen.
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
Andrew read the land acknowledgement statement.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Fisher to approve the agenda. Motion carried
6-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Lau to approve the minutes of the October 16,
2023 minutes. Motion carried 6-0.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. DISCUSSION WITH JOHN LEBLANC ABOUT THE HOLASEK HOUSE
AT CAMP EDEN WOOD
John LeBlanc with True Friends introduced himself and presented the Holasek
House. True Friends leased the camp for 20 years at a time to serve residents with
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disabilities. He introduced Mandy Evans, senior director of True Friends, and
Steve McCarsky, senior director of operations.
Novak-Krebs displayed a Google map of the site. LeBlanc explained True Friends
ran programming at the house year-round, and approximately five years ago True
Friends decided not to run rental property anymore. This was not a vision for the
use of the house anymore; it had been used for a travel program and summer staff
housing, but it was at present not able to be used. Long-term he hoped to bring
back the day camp program by 2025, depending on whether or not True Friends
could hire the staff, and house the adult seasonal staff there.
Evans stated the last time the house was used in 2019, to house eight people.
LeBlanc stated the demand for day camp was massive. Staffing had always been a
challenge, but 2019 saw a peak number of staff, and then the program stopped due
to the Covid pandemic.
LeBlanc stated the house had been rented out to nonprofits such as the Angel
Foundation, an environmental preschool, et cetera, but this was no longer the
plan. Evans explained True Friends stopped permanent housing, but would
continue to house seasonal workers, but the space was not usable at present. She
had concerns about the flooring integrity and water quality, and other safety
issues. The house had a modern heating system, but the water had been turned off
and there was a humidity problem. The house needed work inside and on the
exterior. True Friends would have to raise funding for the improvements, which
had the extra challenge of being a historic building. Discussion followed on the
history of changes to the house. LeBlanc stated his priority was improvement to
the exterior. Maxwell suggested a SHPO grant for the roof repair. Thorp
suggested the Lion’s Club and other charities could be approached for non-
historic related work.
Fischer stated the building had to be stabilized at the very least, and hopefully
make it usable at the same time. Discussion followed on the condition of the
house. Lau asked for and received clarification the commission was not worrying
about returning the building to its original internal configuration, and could be
modernized inside. Fisher asked if the commission could rule (theoretically) that
there was no historical value to this building, and Thorp replied that was true.
Schumacher asked if a kitchen would be put in, and Evans stated there was a
kitchen. The issue was the upper level flooring and cosmetic improvements.
Caruth asked if the aim was for the commission to preserve what it could, or use
its historical value to pitch the idea of funding. LeBlanc stated first he wished the
City to be aware the house needed care; in his understanding, they could make the
interior improvements as they saw fit, but True Friends also did not want to take
away from its historical value. Schumacher stated the building had historic charm.
Fisher suggested modernizing the building similar to the Smith Coffee House,
which did not detract from the historical elements of the building. Thorp stated
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some improvements would have to match the 1880s features, such as a porch or
deck. Schumacher stated the commission had different subcommittees to address
specific concerns, and to move projects forward, and the renovation and
maintenance development subcommittee could address the house, but he also
liked the idea of having staff from Facilities to address the condition of the house.
A civil engineer would be addressing the draining on the site in the next week.
Maxwell suggested this project be transferred to the renovation and maintenance
development subcommittee. Caruth offered to conduct research on the historic
elements of the house. Novak-Krebs offered to speak with Rick Clark, Facilities
manager. Schumacher stated Thorp, Ludowese and he would take on this project
in subcommittee.
LeBlanc gave an update on Birch Hall. He stated there was a donor to contribute
$15,000.00 for a proof-of-concept proposal, and an architect had been chosen.
This was still in the scope of work assessment phase and there was as yet no
timeline.
B. DISCUSS ACTIVITY FOR PEOPLE FEST 2024
Novak-Krebs stated the commission had not wished to participate in 2023, but
would in 2024 if an activity could be suggested. She asked if a subcommittee
wished to take this on. Fisher summarized PeopleFest for the student
representatives. Discussion followed on possible activities. Thorp stated the
commission had once contributed maps which had been well received, but he
questioned what the commission could contribute. Fisher stated he wished to
partner with indigenous residents for them to tell their story. Schumacher
suggested the Native American history/outreach subcommittee take this on.
Novak-Krebs stated the deadline was spring or early summer. Maxwell suggested
the tribe that ended up with the Red Rock, and Fisher stated he and Kathie Case
would reach out with the Shakopee tribe first. Lau asked for and received
confirmation the Eden Prairie Historical Society did not participate in PeopleFest.
Novak-Krebs offered to speak with Megan Yerks of the Human Rights and
Diversity Committee.
C. DEBRIEF OF CITYWIDE OPEN HOUSE AND HARVEST TO
HALLOWEEN EVENTS
Schumacher stated this has been discussed the previous month, and the events
were well received. Thorp stated there was a need for more people. Fisher stated
this year’s location within City Hall was better. Novak-Krebs asked how the
Harvest to Halloween went in the Dorenkemper House, and Thorp stated it was
well attended at about 100 people, but some let their children have the run of the
house and some adults also touched objects. Someone also apparently stole a
stove part. Caruth suggested barriers, and Thorp stated the house was small.
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Discussion followed on crowd control. The consensus was that more volunteers
were needed for tours.
D. 2024 WORK PLAN
Novak-Krebs stated she was preparing a draft of 2023 accomplishments and the
2024 Work Plan. She would send it out via email before the next meeting, and it
would be presented and discussed at the next meeting. It would be presented to
the City Council after the January HPC meeting.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. OLD MILL SITE
Novak-Krebs displayed old photographs that Maxwell and Case had found.
Maxwell stated the commission might wish to send a polite letter to the
homeowners who had had dumped yard waste onto the historic foundations on
City land. Fisher asked for and received confirmation it was clear which
homeowners engaged in this behavior. Novak-Krebs stated the commission could
identify those who encroached on City property. She added Matt Bourne had told
her they would visit this site in the spring to assess and document encroachments.
Caruth suggested the yard waste be cleaned up by the homeowners, and Fisher
suggested signage prohibiting dumping. Maxwell stated at least one of the
foundations was holding together well. There was also a very large oak tree right
next to a foundation, which helped to locate the foundations.
Novak-Krebs stated that in looking through old aerial photographs in 2015, both
foundations could be clearly seen. Discussion followed on the history of the site.
Thorp stated next steps was research, including age and possible artefacts, then
documentation for potential designation.
Discussion followed on whether or not to send the letter before the designation
plan was finalized. Novak-Krebs asked if there was a danger of having
homeowners or others cleaning out the site and potentially damaging the
foundation. The consensus was to hold the letter for the designation plan.
VII. REPORTS OF SUBCOMMITTEES
A. NATIVE AMERICAN HISTORY/OUTREACH
Fisher asked if the issue of the Red Rock should be taken up. He stated
Kathie Case had also asked about it. He and Thorp agreed to meet on this.
B. NEW HERITAGE PRESERVATION SITE DESIGNATIONS
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Maxwell stated the committee visited the Mill Site and the Train Depot.
Thorp stated he was in contact with Hennepin County which would allow
them to do what they want regarding designation. He added brush needs to
be cleared out then the subcommittee could look for foundations. He asked
if City staff could be authorized to assist with cleanup. Maxwell stated
chunks of foundations covered with refuse piles were found. Novak-Krebs
asked for and received confirmation they saw the new water tower replica
under construction. She stated she had received a photograph of the
progress from Rick Whalen .
C. RENOVATION/MAINTENANCE DEVELOPMENT
Schumacher said this subcommittee had not met but had discussed the
cemetery. . He wished the subcommittee to explore doing a better job of
telling this story to people who live in Eden Prairie. Schumacher had also
spoken with Sasha Allen about putting together five to seven video
vignettes, and this was a possible project for student representatives,
utilizing iPads or other devises. Allen was a member of the high school
history club. Discussion followed on possible video topics: Cummins
Phipps Grill House, the Historical Society and museum for access to
photographs, also True Friends. Allen had replied via email she would
bring this idea to the history club, and it could appear on the City’s
website and Facebook page. Lau suggested running on a loop at
PeopleFest.
Schumacher stated Allen had informed him the Minnetonka Historical
Society created a “passport” concept to encourage people to visit historic
sites. Novak-Krebs stated Eden Prairie had conducted a “History Hunt” in
2017, with $5.00 off at a local coffee shop being the prize. Discussion
followed on the process of implementing this. Schumacher suggested
utilizing a walking tour app. He stated this could be discussed in
subcommittee.
D. DOCUMENTATION/HISTORICAL RECORDINGS/OUTREACH
VIII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Bowes stated the Vintage Sale brought in a $4,010.00 profit. Santa (the old Santa) would
be at the Cummins Phipps Grill House after Thanksgiving, and would be training in the
new Santa. The Historical Society made $3,000.00 just from renting the house to him.
The Boy Scouts’ Christmas Tree Sale would be at the Cummins Phipps Grill House (the
two Eden Prairie troupes merged together).
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IX. FYI ITEMS
X NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, December 18, 2023 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Heritage Room.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Bowes to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 8:16 p.m.
HERITAGE
PRESERVATION
COMMISSION
2023 Annual
Report and 2024
Work Plan
“OLD PLACES
HAVE SOUL”
Sarah Anderson
Charter
The Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) is established for the purpose of: (1) safeguarding
the heritage of the City by preserving sites and structures which reflect significant elements of
the City’s cultural, social, economic, political, visual, or architectural history; (2) promoting the
preservation and continued use of historic sites and structures for the education and general
welfare of the people of the City; and (3) fostering civic pride in the beauty and notable
accomplishments of the past.
Mission
The Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) is the City’s steward of Eden Prairie’s enduring
and recognized preservation policies. The programs and strategies focus not only on
preservation, but also on education, public use and enjoyment of our heritage sites.
1. The Commission shall have the following roles and responsibilities:
A. The Commission shall conduct a continuing survey of all areas, places, buildings,
structures or objects in the City that the Commission, based on information available
or presented to it, has reason to believe are significant to the cultural, social,
economic, political, or architectural history of the City.
B. The Commission shall continually survey all areas to determine needed and desirable
improvements of older buildings throughout the City, acting in a resource and
advisory capacity to owners of historically significant sites regarding their
preservation, restoration and rehabilitation.
C. The Commission shall work for the continuing education of the citizens of the City
with respect to the civic and architectural heritage of the City. It shall keep current a
public register of designated and proposed Heritage Preservation sites and areas along
with the plans and programs that pertain to them.
D. The Commission may recommend to the Council the acceptance of contributions
offered to the City and to assist the City staff in preparation of applications for grant
funds to be made through the City for the purpose of Heritage Preservation.
E. The Commission will on a continuing basis collect and review City planning and
development records, documents, studies, models, maps, plans, and drawings to be
passed on to the State Historical Society as a permanent record of City history and
development.
F. The Commission shall make no application to the National Register of Historic Places
or to the State of Minnesota for the designation of a historic site or district without the
consent of the City Council.
2. In pursuance of the above stated roles and responsibilities the Commission should
perform the following work tasks:
A. Recommend best practices for the on-going treatment of historic sites.
B. Recommend local and national designation of historic properties.
C. Review and make recommendations on Certificate of Appropriateness’ (COA’s).
D. Pursue grant funding on behalf of the City for historic preservation properties and
purposes.
E. Review development projects where historical resources are or maybe present.
F. Promote the preservation and continued use of historic sites and structures.
G. Promote the education through various avenues for the people of Eden Prairie.
H. Promote partnerships.
2022-2023 Commission Members
Rod Fisher, Chair
Paul Thorp, Vice Chair
Andy Ludowese
Robert Bowes
Steven Schumacher
George Maxwell
Cathy Lau
Melanie Willett
2022- 2023 Student Representatives
Avik Garg
Sophie Lunda
Mary Margaret Mellen
Ilhaam Mohamed
Jash Parekh
Suweda Said
Siri Tangeti
2023 - 2024 Student Representatives
Abha Gupta
Abhinov Koutharapu
Amuktha Pothamsetti
Berit Berggren
Nikhill Andrew
Owen Caruth
Sasha Allen
City Staff Liaison
Beth Novak-Krebs (Staff Liaison)
2023 HPC Accomplishments
• Participated in a joint meeting with the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission, Human Rights and Diversity
• Presented 2022 Year End Report and 2023 Work Plan to City Council.
• Created Subcommittees to work on projects between meetings
• Participated in the Citywide Open House.
• Presented the Training Curriculum to the two new commissioners.
• Toured Eden Prairie’s Historic Cemeteries
• Toured Camp Eden Wood. The Commission and True Friends have been discussing
possible improvements to Birch Hall, which is one of the contributing buildings for the
area of the camp that is on the National Register of Historic Places.
• Participated in the Harvest to Halloween event and gave tours of the Dorenkemper House.
• Welcomed new members and student members.
• Renewed the voluntary Heritage Plaque Program.
• Completed interviews of seven individuals with knowledge of the 1968 Comprehensive
Plan. The goal was to understand how the 1968 Comprehensive Plan shaped Eden Prairie
and keep these stories for future generations. The transcribed interviews will be edited and
put on the City’s website.
• Presented the Heritage Preservation Award to Katie Qualey
• Continued researching the old DePot site and the old Mill site for possible nomination for
designation as a local Heritage Preservation site
• Reviewed language for two interpretive panels for the Pegasus (a.k.a. Flying Red Horse).
The Pegasus will be placed near a plaza the City is constructing at the corner of Town
Center Place and Flying Cloud Drive. Submitted a grant application for the panel.
• Attended the Preserve Minnesota 2023 conference.
• Began researching the Red Rock at Birch Island
Lake.
• Created Subcommittees to work on projects
between monthly meetings
Native American History/Outreach
Renovation/Maintenance/Development
New Heritage Preservation Sites Designations
Documentation/Historical Recordings/Outreach
2024 Work Plan
• Participate in a joint meeting with the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources
Commission, Human Rights and Diversity and the Eden Prairie Historical Society
• Edit interviews from the Reflections on the 1968 Comprehensive Plan oral history
project. Add completed interviews to the Eden Prairie Has Tales to Tell webpage
• Discuss the possibility of replacing the historical marker for the Battle of Shakopee
• Participate in People Fest and prepare an activity
• Continue to pursue local designation for the old depot site and the old mill site
• Students produce short videos of some of the City’s historic sites and put them on the
website
• Interactive Historical programs, including History Hunt
• Coordinate with True Friends and SHPO toward potential improvements to Birch Hall/
Holasek House
• Partner with other groups toward additional activities at or near the Dorenkemper House
• Continue research on the Red Rock at Birch Island Lake
Ongoing Responsibilities, Activities and Tasks
• Participate in events to educate the public and increase awareness of the City’s historic
and cultural resources (Citywide Open House, Harvest to Halloween, People Fest etc.)
• Review nominations for the Heritage Preservation Award, select the recipient and present
the award in May of each year
• Participate in joint meetings and collaborate with other commissions and organizations
(HRDC – Oct., HS – May 2024, PRNR – March 2024)
• Attend conferences and other learning opportunities
• Help the student members have a meaningful experience being on the Commission (Sept.
– May)
• Tour historic properties and sites to become familiar with the sites that the HPC is
charged with preserving
• Work closely with the Eden Prairie Historical Society on projects. Maintain and
strengthen the positive working relationship the commission already has with the
historical society
• Periodically review the Heritage Preservation page on the City’s website and recommend
improvements if any
• Continue to support the sale of street signs
• Continue to educate the public about the history of Eden Prairie