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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, JUNE 4, 2002 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens, Councilmembers Sherry Butcher, Ron Case,
David Luse, and Jan Mosman
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal, Parks & Recreation Services Director Bob Lambert,
Public Works Services Director Eugene Dietz, Community Development and Financial Services
Director Don Uram, City Planner Michael Franzen, City Attorney Ric Rosow and Council Recorder
Jan Nelson Curielli
I. ROLL CALL / CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Tyra-Lukens called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Councilmember Butcher was
absent.
II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
III. COUNCIL FORUM INVITATION
Mayor Tyra-Lukens said the Council Forum has been modified as follows. Council Forum
will be held the first and third Tuesday of the month from 6:30 – 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chamber. Please note that this portion of the meeting is off-camera. The Council Forum
will consist of two parts: scheduled and unscheduled appearances. 6:30 to 6:50 p.m. is
reserved for scheduled participants. If you wish to schedule time to visit with the City
Council and Service Area Directors, please notify the City Manager’s office (at 952-949-
8412) by noon of the meeting date with your request. The last 10 minutes of the Forum,
from 6:50 to 7:00 p.m. is set aside for impromptu, unscheduled appearances by individuals
or organizations that wish to speak the Council.
IV. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
Rosow said a wrong copy of the Developer’s Agreement was delivered for Items VI.B. and
C. He provided a corrected copy. He noted that the seventh bullet under Background
Information on Item VI.C. is not a condition of the final plat and should be removed from
the memorandum.
Regarding Item VI.J., Case said this is an extremely pleasant task to approve the lease
agreement with Dunn Brothers. He asked if they would be selling baked goods or other
food items as they discussed before. Uram said they are going to bring in goods from a
commercial kitchen. Case asked when the renovation work would begin. Uram said they
expect to bring discussions back to the Council the first of July, and expect to have it open
right before Thanksgiving.
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MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to approve the Agenda as published.
Motion carried 4-0.
V. MINUTES
A. CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD MAY 7, 2002
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Luse, to approve as published the
Minutes of the City Council Workshop held May 7, 2002. Motion carried 4-0.
B. CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD MAY 21, 2002
MOTION: Luse moved, seconded by Mosman, to approve as published the
Minutes of the City Council Workshop held May 21, 2002. Motion carried 4-0.
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CLERK’S LICENSE LIST
B. TERREY PINE VILLAS by Matrix Development, LLC. 2nd Reading Planned
Unit Development District Review with waivers on 6.39 acres, Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-9.5 on 4.97 acres and Zoning District Amendment within
the R1-22 Zoning District on 1.42 acres. Location: Terrey Pine Drive. (Ordinance
No. 15-2002-PUD-10-2002 for PUD District Review, Zoning District Change
and Zoning District Amendment)
C. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-106 APPROVING FINAL PLAT OF
TERREY PINES
D. APPROVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 1 FOR FLAGSHIP CORPORATE
CENTER ACCESS DRIVE – PHASE II, I.C. 00-5517
E. ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-107 APPROVING PRELIMINARY
LAYOUT PLANS FOR CHARLSON ROAD / TH 212, I.C. 98-5470
F. APPROVE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR MITCHELL ROAD
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS ADJACENT TO ATHERTON
TOWNHOMES, I.C. 015540
G. APPROVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR UPPER
EDEN LAKE SEDIMENT REMOVAL, I.C. 02-5575
H. APPROVE ENGINEERING SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH HTPO FOR
PIONEER TRAIL/FLYING CLOUD DRIVE UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS,
I.C. 52-204
I. DIRECT STAFF TO NOT WAIVE THE MONETARY LIMITS ON
MUNICIPAL TORT LIABILITY ESTABLISHED BY MN STATUTE
§ 466.04
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J. APPROVE LEASE WITH CEEFAY LEASING, LLC (DUNN BROS.
COFFEE) FOR SMITH-DOUGLAS-MORE PROPERTY AT 8107 EDEN
PRAIRIE ROAD
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Luse, to approve Item A, amended Items B
and C, and Items D-J of the Consent Calendar. Motion carried 4-0.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS / MEETINGS
A. SPECIAL ASSESSMENT HEARING FOR THE CRESTWOOD TERRACE
NEIGHBORHOOD
Neal said official notice of this public hearing was published in the May 2, 2002,
Eden Prairie News and sent to 46 property owners.
Gray said this is the final assessment hearing for the street and storm sewer
portions of the project in the Crestwood Terrace neighborhood. He said the
assessment amount for each of the properties is $10,968. There is an item later in
the agenda to consider levying the assessment. He said we will also consider
awarding the construction contract. He noted that the bids were very competitive
and were $200,000 under the estimated cost. The City’s share will probably be
about $2000 per unit.
Case commended Mr. Gray and other Staff members for handling the questions and
concerns of the residents, particularly since there were no neighborhood
representatives here at the public hearing.
Luse asked if the sidewalks are included in the construction. Gray said the
sidewalks are part of the bid but are not part of the assessed costs. The sidewalks
will be funded from the Parks budget.
There were no comments from the audience.
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case to close the public hearing for
street improvements in the Crestwood Terrace Neighborhood. Motion carried 4-0.
B. GUIDE PLAN UPDATE - AIRPORT ELEMENT by the City of Eden Prairie.
Request for approval of the Aviation Goals, Chapter 2 and Airport Element,
Chapter 6, to be included as part of the approved Guide Plan Update. (Resolution
for Adopting Airport Element of the Comprehensive Guide Plan Update)
(Continued from May 21, 2002)
Neal said this item was brought to the Council before and staff is asking that it once
again be continued to the June 18th meeting. He said we are awaiting the FAA
review of the agreement with MAC.
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Luse asked if we have any idea when the information will be able to be disclosed to
the public. Rosow said he recently talked to the attorney for MAC. He said they are
trying to arrange another meeting between MAC and the FAA to go over some
details with the FAA and then they plan to have a meeting with us. Rosow said the
details of the proposed final agreement are already public and were discussed at the
Planning Commission meeting. He said our consultants are preparing information
to bring to the public once the agreement has been approved.
Case noted the FAA has jurisdiction over the funding MAC receives but does not
have direct approval of the agreement. Rosow said we are looking to MAC to get
certain assurances from the FAA. If we don’t have those assurances, we would
need to take a look at the terms of the agreement and modify it.
Having been part of this effort since former Mayor Harris and he were appointed to
the negotiating team, Case said he continues to be very confident in our legal
counsel. He said they work very well with MAC, but they are very independent and
vigilant to work on our concerns. He thanked Mr. Rosow and the others who have
been involved in developing the agreement.
Luse said he was looking for the point where a celebration might be appropriate to
involve those advocates who worked really hard to bring this about.
Mosman noted she has received calls and some emails saying the Council has
dropped the ball on the airport issue, so this makes people aware that we are
continuing to work on this issue.
Case said, in his mind, when we get to the point where we celebrate the final
document, we are celebrating the cessation of the fight and that is a different
celebration than celebrating the existence of the airport. He said he wanted to be
careful that all we as the Council have agreed is that we are no longer going to fight
the specific expansion and in exchange for that we have guarantees to the limits of
the future expansion and a protection for our people. He noted there are people out
there who would like to not have the airport expand. Be that as it may, that is a
regional and statewide issue in which the Council may or may not want to be
involved.
Tyra-Lukens thought every person has a different point at which they would
recognize success.
Luse was concerned that this not just be put on the agenda as a consent item. He
thought we will get press and commentaries, and we may want to consider a
mailing to define what this is.
Case said he agreed with Councilmember Luse, because any time the Council
spends this amount of dollars we should go out and show on what we spent those
dollars. He said he was very proud of the choices we have made to protect the
future health and welfare of the people.
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MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case, to continue the public hearing until
June 18, 2002. Motion carried 4-0.
VIII. PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman to approve the Payment of Claims as
submitted. The motion was approved on a roll call vote, with Case, Luse, Mosman,
and Tyra-Lukens voting “aye.”
IX. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
X. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
XI. REPORTS OF ADVISORY BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
XII. APPOINTMENTS
XIII. REPORTS OF OFFICERS
A. REPORTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS
B. REPORT OF CITY MANAGER
1. Proposed Hennepin County LRT Study
Tyra-Lukens said Councilmembers have been getting a lot of emails
regarding the LRT study. She said this is just a study of a possibility in the
LRT corridor. Some of the emails have indicated a frustration that
Councilmembers did not attend one specific meeting in Minnetonka;
however, all the Councilmembers were attending a welcome for the new
City Manager that evening.
Tyra-Lukens said the presentation that the HCRRA did for the Council in
April was one of six presentations, and there have been seven community
meetings. She attended a presentation last week for elected officials and
businesses. She said there seems to be a misconception that the Minnetonka
City Council has taken a stand against light rail.
Neal said the actual name of the study is the Southwest Corridor Rail
Transit Study. He said this is a proposal we received from the organization.
He noted staff has received some of the same emails. He said he talked to
the Minnetonka City Manager who said they have not taken a position
against the study.
Neal said we are working on a meeting here that will be similar to the one
in Minnetonka. He thought the best time for the meeting is going to be 30-
60 days out when we believe the rail authority will have more information
about what they are doing and why they are doing it.
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Tyra-Lukens thought the meeting should have a representative presenting
what the study will look like. She thought there might be some value in
discussing among the Councilmembers what our position is on this
proposed study.
Tyra-Lukens said her position would be that you couldn’t make a decision
until you have some information about the study. She thought there are a lot
of big loose ends including where the trail ends. Rather than making a
motion against the study being done, she would like to see what the
proposal is.
Luse said he remembered from the first evening that there were a lot of
people who had conflicts. He thought the people who are coming forward
are personally involved because it is apparently in their backyards. He
thought Councilmembers and City staff are taking this seriously, and
ultimately we have to look at what is the best final decision for all of Eden
Prairie. He thought there appears to be a good thought process in “why
don’t you keep it contiguous to a major thoroughfare,” but we won’t know
until we take a look at it.
Tyra-Lukens noted that we have no authority over whether they do the
study.
Case said he wanted to underscore that in no way has this Council given
any indication to the rail authority that we would favor this proposal. He
agreed that until the study has been done and is presented to us, it would be
difficult to make a judgment on it. He said he would hate to see Southwest
Metro damaged by this, so he is a skeptic who has to be convinced. He
wanted to reassure the residents that we would never make the decision
lightly, and ultimately do what we think is best for everybody with special
concern for the residents who live along the corridor. He reiterated that no
decision whatsoever has been made.
Mosman said she told people at the Saturday morning meeting the Council
did not have control over this, but we would be listening and that we would
have some kind of public meeting with the Council.
Luse said those people who have voiced concerns and thoughts will need to
stay with the process. As the Mayor pointed out, we do not have legal
recourse over the other entity. He thought the Council has been consistent
about safety being the ultimate issue.
C. REPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION SERVICES DIRECTOR
D. REPORT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCIAL
SERVICES DIRECTOR
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E. REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES DIRECTOR
1. Crestwood Terrace Area Improvements
a. Approval of Special Assessment (Resolution No. 2002-108)
Dietz said the Public Hearing for this item was held earlier this
evening. Staff is asking for approval of the special assessment for
street improvements in the Crestwood Terrace neighborhood.
Dietz noted that, since the project was expanded beyond the scope
of the petition received, a 4-0 vote would be required for approval.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to adopt Resolution
2002-108 approving Special Assessments for street improvements in
the Crestwood Terrace Neighborhood (I.C. 98-5474). Motion
carried 4-0.
b. Contract for Improvements (Resolution No. 2002-109)
Dietz said he distributed copies of the resolution to award the
contract for the Crestwood Terrace street improvements earlier this
evening. He said staff is recommending award to the lowest bidder
who was S.J. Louis Construction, Inc.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to adopt Resolution
No. 2002-109 awarding contract for I.C. 98-5474, Crestwood
Terrace Area Improvements to S.J. Louis Construction, Inc.
Motion carried 4-0.
F. REPORT OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES DIRECTOR
G. REPORT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR
H. REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY
1. Protocol for Public Meeting on Smoke-Free Ordinance
Rosow said his office has arranged for Administrative Law Judge Allan
Klein to preside over the public meeting on June 11, 2002. His office also
prepared a Notice and Order for Public Meeting and a letter to Judge Klein
identifying preliminarily the procedure we would use for the meeting.
Rosow reviewed a proposed five-point process with the Council. The five
points included:
a. Each presenter shall be limited to three (3) minutes.
b. Each presenter shall be required to present testimony under oath.
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c. The Law Judge would ask speakers to alternate between pro and con
until that was not possible.
d. The Council requested that there be backup data for factual data
being presented. If factual testimony is, in fact, opinion testimony, it
will be received as opinion.
e. Parameters will be set regarding the length of the meeting. The
meeting will start at 7:00 p.m. and adjourn no later than 10:00 p.m.
If, at the end of the three-hour time period, there are additional
presentations not yet heard, the Council would have the opportunity
to continue the meeting to another date or possibly extend the time
beyond the scheduled 10:00 p.m. adjournment.
Case asked if we could take written testimony up to a certain time as a third
alternative. Rosow said that was an excellent point and he would add that
written testimony could be submitted.
Tyra-Lukens said she maintains that what somebody says here at a public
meeting doesn’t have any more weight than another person’s email or
phone call. She was not sure there should be a cut-off at all because that
may imply we want to restrict the amount of information submitted.
Luse said we need to let all the voices be heard and that is what we are
doing. He thought we have been very clear about how we were going to do
it and we decided this was the best format. He didn’t think we would know
until that night if we will need another night or more for presentations.
Tyra-Lukens said this is not the only format to let them be heard because
email and calls are acceptable.
Case said he would also like to have the idea out there that every voice
could be heard, but it may not be heard at that public meeting. He said the
purpose is to gather information but also to assist us in formulating our
position, He said there is more value to us to be able to ask questions of the
speaker rather than having an additional number of speakers, and he thought
those two things might be at odds. Ultimately the goal is to help the five of
us to arrive at a decision that is the best for the residents of Eden Prairie. He
encouraged people who are not able to attend the meeting to contact the
Council by another means.
Tyra-Lukens asked if there is a way the Council can ask questions of the
presenter. Rosow said he would add to the first item that the council may
ask questions and that will be outside of the speaker’s three minutes.
Case thought we might also have to limit the response time. He also thought
after a certain time when speakers have said the same thing, it is important
that the judge says it is helpful to hear something new. He thought the judge
should be able to handle that.
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Mosman said her question has been whether we plan to respond to the
public as they are speaking. She thought we are not making a decision that
night so we should not be expected to give our responses.
Tyra-Lukens said that was how she is feeling. She said there is no ordinance
that we are defending.
Case said the State Supreme Court does this by hearing both sides and
questioning each one. That is our role to take testimony and respond back.
Mosman said she has received a number of phone calls and emails that have
questioned whether the Council has the right to pass an ordinance on this.
She asked Rosow if he could provide a statement Councilmembers could
use to answer such communications.
Rosow said the Council does have the authority to adopt an ordinance
dealing with this subject matter and the Attorney General has so said. We
can reiterate that at the public meeting and have a copy of the Attorney
General’s opinion on that subject available.
Luse thought we need some structure as we gather this information, and he
thought we are being very professional in our approach. He thought it feels
a little restrictive about how we have information coming to us. He would
agree that we should be able to ask questions of a presenter. Regarding the
question of whether we as the Council have the authority to adopt such an
ordinance, he thought maybe the answer is that it goes on a ballot in
November.
Luse thought we have to be sure that all the people feel they had had their
voice heard. He would support follow-up questions and some all-
encompassing additional time frame if needed. He said there is a whole
problem with the three-minute time frame, but he would agree we have to
do it that way to make the process fair. He would support scheduling
another meeting in July, which we could cancel if it is not necessary, so that
we get all the information needed to make a final decision on the issue.
Case thought we should cross that bridge when we get there. He thought at
the conclusion of the public meeting it is possible that something will come
out to indicate we have received the information we need to make a
decision. We could come back at the next regular meeting and raise the
question of whether there was enough time spent. At some point we as a
Council need to look at what we get and make a decision. An individual can
reach us in various formats, so he did not think we need to allow every
individual to use the format of speaking at a public meeting. He said we are
promising that every position will be heard.
Mosman said she agreed with Councilmember Case. She noted that some of
the emails that were in the Council packets have very interesting pieces of
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information and she wondered if it would be appropriate to read some of
them at the meeting, or if they should be brought in as backup for why a
particular decision was made.
Tyra-Lukens said she did not think everything that has been sent to the
Council has to be entered into the record at the public meeting.
Luse said the majority of the voices heard to date tend to be on one side of
the issue or the other. He was seeing about half and half on the issue. He
thought there are many people who would say this is an important
individual rights issue, and we need to take a vote of our 55,000 people. He
thought we would be setting ourselves up for public scrutiny if we don’t go
the extra mile to get the information. He thought ultimately the issue is a
health issue, but he didn’t want others in the community to think that the
individual rights issue and all the other political issues were not heard.
Tyra-Lukens thought the issue of a referendum comes later, and she thought
there would be pros and cons for a referendum.
Luse said he was asking for a three-hour meeting to be scheduled in July,
with the stipulation that presenters cannot duplicate their presentation from
the June meeting. He thought then whatever decision gets made, we will
have done everything we can to get the issues out on the table.
Tyra-Lukens said she would prefer to wait to make a decision until after the
meeting on the 11th. She didn’t want to schedule a meeting now. She
thought we should get as many people at this one as we can and then deal
with whether to schedule another meeting.
Case said the point is the objective of the meeting is to get information on
the positions, and we have told every citizen in the community that they can
contact any of us at any time. He thought in the course of three hours this
representative body will get the information and can then consider the next
step.
Tyra-Lukens said the purpose of the meeting is to determine the pros and
cons of the issue. Case added that the purpose is also to help us make a
decision as a governing body.
Mosman asked if we would want to limit who would be allowed to present,
for example, would a restaurant owner from Florida who would be against
such an ordinance be a relevant presenter that we should be hearing from.
Case thought it would be a slippery slope to limit those who could present.
He thought having the disclosure of who they are and where they live or
work would put the testimony in the appropriate light.
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Tyra-Lukens said we should ask people to sign up on a pro or con list and
they will be asked to come forward alternately. She asked if we want to
regulate how often anyone can speak. Case said he thought we should
allow each person to speak one time.
Luse said to him this is a health issue, an economic issue and an individual
rights issue. He thought we will continue to receive input on the health and
economic issues next Tuesday, but we have barely begun to touch the
individual rights issue. He implored the Council to go the extra mile so we
can get rid of any question as it relates to the ability to communicate. He
was concerned that a three-hour time frame is not going to allow us to get
finalization on all three of the issues involved, and he again asked for
another three-hour meeting in July.
Case thought the purpose of the meeting is to get all the issues laid out. That
may be done in one meeting or not, but we would decide that after the first
meeting.
Tyra-Lukens said we definitely want to get a lot of public input, and we are
going after issues. She wasn’t sure what more information we would get
regarding the individual rights issue if another meeting were scheduled.
Luse said his concern is the group of people who are concerned that this is
an individual rights issue have not been heard.
Case said the individual rights issue is not a gray area. He didn’t think we
need three hours to cover that because it is a belief statement. He thought
we do need to take the time to get feed back on the health issue and look at
the impact of what we do to see how it affects businesses.
Luse said he was trying to eliminate the other pieces of this issue so that we
can get back to where he can accept this. He believed we need more than
three hours to get the information out, and the additional time could be held
any time, not necessarily in July.
Case noted that no one has said we wouldn’t go beyond three hours.
Mosman thought just bringing up the subject may trigger people who feel
strongly on the individual rights issue to come to the meeting or email us.
She said we should encourage them to come, as we want to hear that as part
of the testimony.
Luse said his concern is that only 25% read the paper, and even fewer view
the cable channel. He didn’t think the residents fully understand the process.
He wanted to give the impression that we are going the extra mile, and that
is really what the request is. He did not want it to be construed as a delay,
but rather as a way to get a group of very strong views.
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Case thought everyone wants to go the extra mile, and we are saying that
we are not sure the extra three-hour meeting will be necessary. We can take
the meeting at face value and assess where we are at the end of the meeting.
Tyra-Lukens reiterated that the public meeting is not the only way to get
opinions to the Council. She said emails, phone calls and letters are all
available to the public and each type of information will be given equal
weight.
Rosow reviewed the guidelines the hearing officer would employ at his
discretion as follows:
a. Each presenter shall be limited to three (3) minutes.
b. The Mayor and Council Members may ask questions of presenters.
The time to answer the questions will be in addition to the three
minutes provided for above but never-the-less, the response to the
questions should be limited to two (2) minutes. Mayor and Council
Members will not respond to questions from the public at this
meeting.
c. Each presenter shall be required to present testimony under oath.
Each presenter will be allowed to speak once.
d. Each new presenter will be asked to state their name, home and
business address and the name of their employer.
e. Alternate between presenters pro and con on the issue. A sign-up list
for both pro and con will be available and individuals wishing to
present testimony should sign the appropriate list.
f. After the same point has been made by several speakers, the Hearing
Officer will ask future presenters to present new information, not
just reiterate what has been previously said before.
g. Anyone presenting factual evidence (as opposed to opinion
testimony) must also present to the Council supporting data that
tends to establish the facts being presented to the Council. For
instance, if a presenter wishes to persuade the Council that the
adoption of such an ordinance would have either a negative or a
positive impact on a business sector, the presenter should be
required to provide the factual basis or data that supports the claim,
i.e. a survey or study measuring the impact of a similar ordinance in
another city. If the factual testimony is in fact opinion testimony, the
Council will receive the opinion testimony as part of the record but
it should be so identified.
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h. The public meeting will start at 7:00 p.m. and adjourn no later than
10:00 p.m. If there are present at the public meeting individuals who
wish to address the Council but have not had an opportunity to do
so, the Council will decide at that time whether or not to continue
the meeting to another date
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Mosman, to set the eight-point
process as a guideline for the Public Meeting on Smoke-Free Ordinance to
be held on June 11, 2002. Motion carried 3-1, with Luse opposed.
Tyra-Lukens said she wanted to reiterate the fact that all forms of
communication will be given equal weight. She noted that if someone
chooses to send an email, it would be helpful to include their name and the
other information requested of presenters at the public meeting.
XIV. OTHER BUSINESS
XV. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Mosman moved, seconded by Case, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
4-0. Mayor Tyra-Lukens adjourned the meeting at 8:25 p.m.