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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY JUNE 26, 2023 7:00 P.M. Heritage Rooms City Hall
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steven Schumacher-Chair; Paul Thorp-Vice Chair, George
Maxwell, Robert Bowes, Rod Fisher, Andy Ludowese,
Melanie Willett, Catherine Lau
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 15, 2023
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. 5 MINUTE HISTORY REPORT (BOB)
B. UPDATE ON TOUR OF BIRCH HALL AT CAMP EDEN WOOD WITH SHPO (BETH)
C. HERITAGE SITE PLAQUES (BETH)
D. BIRCH ISLAND ROCK (PAUL)
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS NEXT STEPS FOR EDEN MILL DESIGNATION NOMINATION
(BETH/PAUL)
B. UPDATE ON INTERVIEWS FOR THE REFLECTIONS ON THE 1968 COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN PROJECT (BETH)
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
A. GENERAL UPDATE – (PAUL/BOB)
IX. FYI ITEMS
X. NEXT MEETING
July 17, 2023
XI. ADJOURNMENT
UNAPPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 15, 2023 7:00 P.M. Meeting
Heritage Rooms
8080 Mitchell Road
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Rod Fisher (Chair); Paul Thorp (Vice-
Chair); George Maxwell; Steve
Schumacher; Robert Bowes; Andy
Ludowese; Melanie Willett; Catherine Lau
STUDENT MEMBERS: Avik Garg, Sophie Lunda, Mary Margaret
Mellen, Ilhaam Mohamed, Jash Parekh,
Suweda Said, Siri Tanget
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Fisher called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Absent were commission members
Schumacher and Willett and student members Garg, Lunda, Mohamed, Parekh, Tangeti
and Said.
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
Fisher read the land acknowledgement statement.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Lau to approve the agenda as amended by Thorp
to add PeopleFest under Item VA, New Business. Motion carried 5-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Lau moved, seconded by Bowes to approve the minutes of the April 17, 2023
minutes. Motion carried 5-0.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. FIVE-MINUTE HISTORY REPORT (MELLEN)
Mellen reported on strong women in history: Julia Nelson, one of the first women
to graduate from college (Hamline) in the 1890s in Minnesota, who then taught
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Kindergarten in Red Wing, then taught slaves in the Freeman’s Bureau in Texas.
She worked alongside Susan B. Anthony on justice issues before her death in
1914.
B. DISCUSS POSSIBLE GRANT APPLICATION FOR BIRCH HALL
IMPROVEMENTS (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs stated that at the last meeting at Camp Eden Wood, it had been
discussed that John LeBlanc wished to make improvements to Birch Hall, with
the HPC expressing an interest in assisting to write a grant. Novak-Krebs added
she had spoken with LeBlanc, who was meeting staff from SHPO at the site for a
tour. Commission members were invited. Fisher and Thorp volunteered to attend
this tour as well. He added former Eden Prairie staff liaison John Gertz was also
interested in this potential project. Discussion followed on the history of Gertz’s
work.
[Maxwell arrived at 7:08 p.m.]
The tour with LeBlanc was set for June 6, from 1:00 – 2:30 p.m.
Novak-Krebs stated LeBlanc was considering hiring an architect. Thorp stated
this might not be necessary, as a study of the site had been completed. He offered
to bring this along on the tour. Novak-Krebs stated a cost estimate and drawings
were needed to apply for a grant. Thorp replied these were also in the study:
$45,000.00 without interior improvements. Discussion followed on the costs of
the interior improvements.
Novak-Krebs added she could write the application for a grant or a consultant
could be hired to write the application for the grant. Everyone would know more
about the grant cycle and needs after the tour.
C. DISCUSS JOINT MEETING WITH HUMAN RIGHTS AND DIVERSITY
COMMISSION (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs announced Megan Yerks had emailed her regarding a joint meeting
in the fall, with the daughter of Agnes Daluge, who had presented at the Historical
Society’s Annual Meeting and documented her mother’s experiences in Rosas
Miracle Mouse: The True Story of a WWII Undercover Teenager, giving a
presentation. Thorp replied she lived in Illinois. Novak-Krebs stated she could
reach out to Megan for agenda items and a possible other speaker. Mellen
suggested a Zoom/Skype meeting or recorded session might be an option for the
speaker. Thorp offered to speak to Kathie Case about this.
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D. DISCUSS RUINS EAST OF PURGATORY CREEK AND NORTH OF
PIONEER TRAIL FOR POSSIBLE DESIGNATION (THORP)
Thorp displayed a map and stated the Welter family once owned a large tract of
land north of Pioneer Trail near Purgatory Creek. There was a dam feeding the
mill where Purgatory Creek crossed Old Pioneer Trail. Thorp had visited the site
with Ron and Kathie Case following the directions from Welter. The stone
foundations related to the mill still existed onsite. The complex had been part of a
hotel.
Novak-Krebs explained the location of the stormwater facility and that the owner
of the property is the City. Thorp explained the dam was still a functioning dam,
built in the 1950s. The DNR had had no record of it until Thorp contacted that
agency. He displayed the foundations for a barn for the hotel and the mill
foundation and the historical no-build easement (not always obeyed by
homeowners). Thorp displayed a photograph of the foundation, made of boulder
rocks, and stated Gertz was also interested in working on this project. The area
was very dense and not easily accessible.
The mill had been built in the 1870s and eventually abandoned. The dam was
constructed to feed the mill from the creek. Novak-Krebs displayed an aerial view
of the site to aid the location of the foundation. Thorp pointed out the location of
the dam. Maxwell asked for clarification on the site of the hotel, which had been
located among farms. Novak-Krebs asked if anything was left of the old road that
went over the creek and Thorp replied there was not. Discussion followed on the
requirements of the historical easement and the prohibition against throwing yard
waste (or any waste) on City land.
Lau asked if there would be signage for the site. Maxwell stated that first required
having someone clean up the site due to homeowners pitching yard waste into the
site. Discussion followed on the prohibition against throwing any refuse on City
property. Thorp stated the site needed to be better documented. Mellen suggested
recruiting students to clean up the site.
Thorp stated this was a point of information; discussions were ongoing with City
staff about a consultant.
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Lau to approve a further study by the
HPC commission with the intent of pursuing location designation of the site.
Motion carried 6-0.
E. PEOPLEFEST (THORP)
Thorp explained this event was somewhat outside of the commission’s scope but
added the commission had participated in the past, with a display table with maps.
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Fisher stated he also wondered if this was a fit for the commission. Discussion
followed on the question of whether or not to have a table at the event. Mellen
suggested a booth publicizing the HPC. Maxwell read the requirements aloud
including the exhortation to have a hands-on activity. Lau suggested tabling the
discussion for now, perhaps until December with the intent of developing a
hands-on activity for the 2024 People Fest. Novak-Krebs stated she would put this
item on the November or December commission agenda.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. STUDENT PRESENTATION ON THE SHPO HERITAGE COMMISSION
TRAINING MANUAL (SAID)
Said was not present. Mellen offered to present at the next meeting on outreach
and recruitment of student representatives and methods of student engagement.
UPDATE ON INTERVIEWS FOR THE REFLECTIONS ON THE 1968
PLAN PROJECT (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs stated she and Tom Achartz needed to set up a time with Maxwell
to read the introduction to the interviews.
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
Novak-Krebs stated Scipioni was moving from Eden Prairie and therefore had
resigned from the commission. The opening will not be filled until the next round
of commission recruitment in 2024. Fisher confirmed that Maxwell’s and Thorp’s
seats were up for reapplication then as well.
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Bowes stated the Farmhouse Market and Sale at the Cummins Phipps Grill House earned
three or four thousand dollars. All proceeds went to PropShop.
The Historical Society had its annual meeting with the daughter of Agnes Daluge
presenting. The next meeting for the Society was Thursday. Katie Qualey would be
honored at this meeting.
The Cummins Phipps Grill House improvements were mostly completed.
Thorp stated the Society had received a donation of a geometry book owned by John
Cummins, who built the Cummins Phipps Grill House, with the date 1850 written in it
along with his name.
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IX. FYI ITEMS
X NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, June 26, 2023 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Heritage Room. Schumacher would be the new Chair, and Thorp the Vice-Chair, as
determined by the City Council.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Bowes to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:43 p.m.