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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY JANUARY 23, 2023 7:00 P.M. Heritage Rooms – City Hall
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Rod Fisher-Chair; Paul Thorp-Vice Chair, George Maxwell,
Robert Bowes, Steven Schumacher, Andrew Scipioni, Andy
Ludowese
STUDENT MEMBERS: Avik Garg, Sophie Lunda, Mary Margaret Mellen, Ilhaam
Mohamed, Jash Parekh, Suweda Said, Siri Tangeti
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER / ROLL CALL
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING ON DECEMBER 19, 2022
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. DEBRIEF OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION OF 2022 ANNUAL REPORT AND 2023 WORK
PLAN (BETH AND ROD)
B. STUDENT PRESENTATION ON THE SHPO HERITAGE PRESERVATION
COMMISSION TRAINING MANUAL (MARY MARGARET)
C. DISCUSS POTENTIAL WOMEN FROM EDEN PRAIRIE THAT COULD BE FEATURED
FOR WOMEN’S HISTORY MONTH, WHICH IS MARCH (BETH)
D. REVIEW LIST OF PROPERTIES ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, THOSE THAT ARE
LOCALLY DESIGNATED AND THOSE THAT HAVE A HERITAGE SITE PLAQUE
(BETH)
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE ON CEMETERY RECORDS MANAGEMENT (BETH)
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
A. GENERAL UPDATE – (PAUL/BOB)
IX. FYI ITEMS
X. NEXT MEETING
FEBRUARY 27, 2023
XI. ADJOURNMENT
UNAPPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 19 2022 7:00 P.M.
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Rod Fisher (Chair); Paul Thorp (Vice-
Chair); George Maxwell; Steve
Schumacher; Robert Bowes; Andrew
Scipioni; Andy Ludowese
STUDENT MEMBERS: Avik Garg, Sophie Lunda, Mary Margaret
Mellen, Ilhaam Mohamed, Jash Parekh,
Suweda Said, Siri Tanget
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Fisher called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Absent were student members
Mohamed, Parekh, and Said. Mike Rogers joined the meeting.
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
Fisher read the land acknowledgement statement.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Schumacher moved, seconded by Bowes to approve the agenda. Motion
carried 6-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Bowes moved, seconded by Schumacher to approve the minutes of the
November 21, 2022, minutes. Motion carried 6-0.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSS OR INTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS FOR
SMITH COFFEE WITHIN THE SMITH, DOUGLAS, MORE HOUSE
(ALEX SCHUSTER)
Novak-Krebs introduced Schuster, the owner of the Smith Coffee House. Schuster
displayed a PowerPoint and detailed his plans for the remodeling. The “café side”
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had already been completed, and the “house side” or dining rooms side needed
updating. There were four segments: new furniture, new wall paint, new light
fixtures, and some ceiling trim work. Nothing of historic merit would be altered
or removed.
[Maxwell arrived at 7:11 p.m.]
Schuster displayed the existing and planned seating, including the additional “soft
seating” in the stained-glass window nook. The tabletops would be of wood. He
would be using the existing wooden chairs.
The light fixtures would be new chandeliers in new locations to center the room
and light it better. There was not a lot of natural light in the space. Supplemental
lighting sconces would supply fill illumination. Novak-Krebs explained that
interior changes such as lighting did not require a Certificate of Appropriateness
and did not alter the character of the home or the features that made the building
historic. There was no requirement for the furnishings to conform to a certain
style. Schuster displayed the ceiling trim style he would add. He explained he was
not trying to “modernize” but keep a classis or timeless look. He showed how one
room had no overhead lighting and explained he was responding to the needs of
customers. He had updated the place when they started leasing the building and
grounds, but this was the first time he had retained an architect to look at future
designs. The walls would be repainted, and a mural added.
Schuster displayed a layout of the ceiling trim (box and circle around the light
fixture). He also displayed the plan for the mural placement. New tables would
also be installed upstairs but the chairs would remain. The Large Conference
Room would get a new table, and the Small Conference Room would get new
draperies and a rug. He displayed the art choices and foliage. He stated the flow
would be more natural; this was a difficult space to furnish without blocking a
door, et cetera. The architect had suggested commercial artwork, although he
wished to incorporate a map of Eden Prairie and perhaps some text from old
letters. Maxwell suggested a rotating PDF display, perhaps on iPads.
Schuster displayed the booths styles and construction details. At least one would
be custom built for the space. In some rooms the wallpaper would remain.
Fisher commended the plan. Schumacher remarked this would be a more
attractive room and Fisher agreed. Mellen asked for the timeline, and Schuster
replied it would begin in the spring. The work could take a few weeks, but he
hoped to shorten that as much as possible. The commission members thanked
Schuster for his presentation.
B. DISCUSS THE 2022 ANNUAL REPORT AND 2023 WORK PLAN
(NOVAK-KREBS)
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Novak-Krebs explained every year the commission completed an annual report
and a work plan for the next year, to be presented to the City Council. The 2023
Work Plan would be presented by Novak-Krebs and Fisher at the workshop on
January 3, 2023, and the student commission members were invited along with
the commission members.
Novak-Krebs went through her presentation. The first part was dedicated to 2022
accomplishments such as the Citywide Open House, the Harvest to Halloween
event and the discussion surrounding possible uses for the Dorenkemper House.
Other accomplishments were joint meetings with the Parks, Recreation and
Natural Resources Commission and the Eden Prairie Historical Society, the
reflections on the 1968 Comprehensive Plan initiative, the Heritage Preservation
Awards, the Flying Red Horse project, and Commissioner Bowes attending the
Preserve Minnesota Conference in Duluth.
Novak-Krebs highlighted goals for 2023, which included student presentations on
the SHPO Heritage Preservation training manual, another joint meeting with the
Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission and with the Eden Prairie
Historical Society, updating the Eden Prairie website, pursuing local designation
of the Depot site and a tour of the pump house, the Peoplefest event, a tour of
Camp Edenwood, and a visit to the Mdewakantonwan Cultural Center. Discussion
followed on additions to the Work Plan and accomplishments. Mellen suggested
taking advantage of social media beyond Facebook, such as Instagram.
Schumacher urged mentioning the website with the oral histories and different
map layers. Discussion followed on social media accounts. Maxwell suggested
Thorp’s research on the Otherday family as an accomplishment from 2022. Fisher
suggested meeting with the Human Rights and Diversity (HRDC) commission.
Novak-Krebs offered to include the suggested changes and to speak to the staff
liaison with the HRDC commission.
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Maxwell to approve the 2023 Work Plan
with the changes. Motion carried 7-0.
C. DISCUSS THE CONSOLIDATED SCHOOL AND REQUESTING LOCAL
DESIGNATION (THORP)
Thorp stated he was cautioned about restrictions that would come with potential
designation by Davd Lindahl. Discussion followed on the pros and cons of local
designation. Thorp stated the site needed recognition of some kind if designation
was not pursued. Novak-Krebs added being locally designated could require
Certificates of Appropriateness for certain work proposed for the property.
Discussion followed on a possible plaque or other award idea. Mellon asked if a
created award could be similar to an HPC Award. Bowes echoed the idea. Fisher
stated he wished to have all existing designations and Thorp offered to pull one
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together. Novak-Krebs replied there was a list of all nationally designated, locally
designated, and plaque-awarded local sites in Eden Prairie, along with properties
the HPC was keeping an eye on. Maxwell stated he would like to have
information on the Depot Site to avoid possible desecration, such as a sidewalk
being built over remains. Discussion followed on the advantages of publicizing
local sites in this manner.
D. DISCUSS STUDENT PRESENTATION ON THE SHPO HERITAGE
PRESERVATION COMMISSION TRAINING MANUAL (FISHER)
Mellon briefly described the project: two chapters would be given to each student
representative, and a presentation on these would be given at each HPC meeting.
Mellon would present the first on January 23.
Although not a formal agenda item, there was a discussion about making
cemetery records available to the public.
Mike Rogers stated his grandfather lived in the More House. He grew up on the
Eden Apple Orchard and his family had owned everything from Pioneer Trail to
Carver County line. His grandfather had been the first 32-year member of
firefighter department, and his father was a charter member. In 1998 his father
was diagnosed with cancer, while he was running the Eden Prairie Cemetery, and
therefore Mike Rogers had learned the business. In the process he had put a great
deal of cemetery information in a database, and ultimately bought a $7,000.00
(Ponton Cemetery Software) program to manage the cemetery’s data. Carol
Kissner helped with finding out data on the cemetery’s north section.
This program had the ability to associate text and photographs with any specific
grave. He turned the cemetery over to the City in 2022. The original cemetery was
quite small, but as of 2022 he was managing 30-40 burials per year, and also
scanning in obituaries and deeds from the sale of graves. The data had the ability
to be shared with Find A Grave, et cetera. Since this project would be
overwhelming for City staff, it might require volunteers. Rogers also had three
legal size fireproof cabinets, with another file cabinet to enter into the database.
The database and the files contained yearly business meetings from 1897 to the
present.
He was concerned about the program being updated and maintained for the
historical information in it. He had over 400 graves left to enter.
Discussion followed on how to support this project. Novak-Krebs stated she had
met with Jay Lotthammer about how to make this information accessible, such as
linking it with Find A Grave. Lotthammer was going to research Find A Grave
and come back with suggestions. Maxwell suggested adding this to the 2023
Work Plan. Fisher asked for and received confirmation the Eden Prairie Historical
Society had no oversight of the cemeteries. Maxwell suggested inviting Carol
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Kissner to a future commission meeting. Fisher suggested pulling up the written
articles about Rogers’ work, and Schumacher suggested putting this on the agenda
of a future meeting. Mellen suggested bringing on the Parks and Recreation
Department as an arm to diversify the workload.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE ON INTERVIEWS RELATED TO THE 1968
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs stated she interviewed Dean Edstrom and Roy Terwilliger in early
December. She would schedule her remaining two interviews in January.
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Maxwell stated the Optimist’s Club sold more Christmas Trees than in any year and
donated the remaining seven to charity. Santa proved very popular with the kids.
IX. FYI ITEMS
Mellen stated she was part of the history club for high school with 25 members and asked
if any commission members would be willing to talk after school (around 3:30 p.m.).
Mike Rogers offered to speak to the students.
X NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, January 23, 2023 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Heritage Room.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Scipioni to adjourn. Motion carried 7-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 8:29 p.m.