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May 18, 1998
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APPROVED MINUTES
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Monday, May 18, 1998 7:00 p.m., City Center
Prairie Room A/B
8080 Mitchell Road
Commission Members: Deborah Barkley, Kathie Case, Timothy Colliton, Jane
Hession, Jan Mosman, Lori Peterson-Benike, and
James Wilson
Student Representatives: Jenny Freemyer, and Kristin Kelly
Staff: John Gertz, Historic Preservation Specialist, and
Rebecca Belz, Recording Secretary
I. ROLL CALL
Vice Chair Case called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and noted that Tim Colliton was
absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The following items were added to the agenda:
F. Coffee Shop Update (Under Old Business)
C. Douglas-More House Question (Under Reports of Commission and Staff)
Jan Mosman entered the meeting at 7:03 p.m.
Jane Hession moved, seconded by James Wilson, to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion carried unanimously.
III. APPROVAL OF APRIL 20, 1998 MINUTES
The following corrections were requested of the April 20, 1998 Minutes:
> To correct the spelling of the Douglas-More House two times on page two under
letter A.
> To correct the date of the Garden Club’s plant sale on June 13, 1998 on page 3
in the third paragraph.
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> To delete the sentence that reads, “She further explained that the HPC is
now helping Friendship Ventures restore and reconstruct the original
facility so it will
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be more useful to Friendship Ventures.” In the first paragraph of
page 4 to read, “ She further explained that the HPC is now involved
in discussions about restoration with Friendship Ventures and the
City.”
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> To correct the spelling of Kristin Kelly’s name in the first paragraph on
page 7.
James Wilson moved, seconded by Lori Peterson-Benike, to approve the
minutes of the April 20, 1998 meeting of the Heritage Preservation
Commission as amended. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. REPORTS OF THE EDEN PRAIRIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Commissioner Case reported that the Historical Society would be making a
presentation to the School Board June 8, 1998 regarding the
importance of saving and restoring the Gymnasium. Commissioner
Case further explained that the school plans to destroy the
Kindergarten Gymnasium to erect office space for the school. She
stressed that the gym had seen seventy-five years of graduates and
still plays an important role at the school for meetings, parent-teacher
events, orientations, and also classes for the Kindergartners. She said
that the building has been kept in very good condition and still has
the original bleachers.
The Commission discussed this meeting and the plans for the gym at
length. Commissioner Case invited the Commissioners to attend the
meeting in support of saving the gym.
Mr. Gertz reported of the presentation Phyllis Messenger gave at the
Historical Society’s Annual Meeting. He said that a Hamlin University
Student assisted Ms. Messenger. The presentation consisted of a
complete recap of the program including a slide presentation and
display of artifacts from the site. Others added that the presentation
was very interesting and educational.
V. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. 19th Annual Historic Preservation Conference:
Attendees reported that they attended the sessions Saturday in nearby
Faribault. They noted that Tom Johnson, who wrote “Divided
Highways”, was the Keynote speaker. They reportedly attended
Mr. Johnson’s presentation, the educational presentation by the
Faribault High School, and Pat Nunnally’s “Historic Landscapes”
in which Eden Prairie and its sites were mentioned.
B. Vision 2001
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Mr. Gertz reported that though four of the HPC members were there, the
meeting was not well attended that evening which eliminated
the discussion groups. It was decided at the meeting that the
videotapes would be forwarded to commissions to view at a
regularly scheduled meeting.
Commissioner Peterson-Benike added that the presentation introduced a
new approach to thinking about the City’s future.
C. Douglas-More House Question:
Commissioner Case reported a conversation with Earl More’s granddaughter
and the trees that were to be taken down. During the
conversation, the granddaughter cried and expressed her
frustration with the vines that were cut down from their house.
Commissioner Case wondered if the Commission was aware of
the removal of the vines. Mr. Gertz acknowledged that he knew
of it and had recommended the vines be cut back. He explained
that it could be very damaging to the house – mainly in rotting
the ornamental woodwork on the house it was covering.
The trees were also discussed and it was reported that Minnesota
Department of Transportation will be replacing some of the trees
and landscaping.
It was also reported that nine windows in the house were broken as a result
of the recent hailstorm.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Fredrick-Miller Spring:
Mr. Gertz reported that he and Jan Mosman had met approximately two
weeks ago to go over the drawings for the spring. Gertz then
took the two comprehensive drawings to Bob Lambert who
agreed with the HPC’s original motion to move the spring Creek-
side.
The Commission reviewed the comprehensive drawings and reviewed a few
questions with Gertz and Mosman about items such as: parking
spots, kiosks, benches, and curbing. The Commission
commended Mosman for her work.
B. Glenn Lake Children’s Camp:
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Mr. Gertz made note of the report included in the packet regarding the
remodeling outline for the dining hall at the camp (also called
Edenwood Dining Hall). After reviewing the outline, Mr. Gertz
had only a few concerns about the proposition – namely the new
windows. Then, in a conversation with a representative from
Friendship Ventures, who is the partner in restoring the facility,
several items about the plans were discussed, including the
windows which Mr. Gertz suggested restoring the old windows
and fitting the proposed addition with something completely
different. During the discussion with the Commission, Mr. Gertz
showed the latest completed drawings of the camp. Additional
items discussed and that he believed the Commission would be
particularly interested in include, but are not limited to the
following:
> It was noted that the deck shown on the original building portion
would be eliminated.
> A basement may be built on the far end of the original building,
mainly due to foundation work and the 7 to 8-foot footings
that are needed.
> It was suggested to switch the proposed concession room and
unisex bathroom.
> Roofing material will be asphalt shingle.
> Doors will be restored or replaced with in-kind doors.
> Heating will be run under the floor.
> Ventilators on the roof will be retained even though they will
not be functional.
> Siding will remain original.
> The addition will be distinct but seamless.
> It was requested to change the gable on the addition to a
“Hip”.
> The interior of the original building will retain its original appearance.
A vapor barrier will be applied.
> The new building will cross over property lines and may have two
owners. It is also a possibility that the property will be
“gifted” to the city.
> The desire with landscaping is to maintain it and keep it from looking
too structured.
In closing, Mr. Gertz noted that the plans will be going to the DRC this
Thursday and then to the Planning Commission June 8, 1998 for
review. He requested the Commission’s input and support on
the project to continue to proceed with the plans.
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Lori Peterson-Benike moved, seconded by Kristin Kelly, that the
Commission recommend to go forward with the plans for the
Glenn Lake Children’s Camp and to support the plan submitted
by Friendship Ventures including John Gertz’s comments as
discussed in the meeting with the SHPO office.
The Commission recessed at intervals during this conversation due to the
thunderstorm.
C. CLG Grant:
Mr. Gertz reported that he and Pat Nunnally went to inspect the Minnesota
Valley Trail segments and found that they lacked integrity and
was difficult to discern trail features. He and Pat Nunnally
decided not to pursue these sites at this time.
Jane Hession left the meeting at 8:30 p.m.
D. Riley-Jacques Farmstead:
Mr. Gertz made note of the memo to Stu Fox, Manager of Parks, Recreation
and Natural Resources, notifying him of the restoration work and
the recommendation to coordinate the two pending painting
projects for the property. He explained that as well as the
Horsemen’s Club’s fence painting project, that the building is in
need of paint as well.
Mr. Gertz also reported that the septic system repair noted in his report has
been completed.
Bob Lambert had been out to the property and noted light peering through
shingles. Mr. Gertz had noticed this too and requested Diethelm
to fix and replace where necessary.
E. Final Report to archaeology Survey Results of Pemtom-Dorenkemper
Development:
Mr. Gertz reported that the final investigation of the survey area was
completed in April. No burial mounds were found nor any
efficiency of any mounds. Christina Harrison, the archaeologist
doing the survey, recommended that the development be allowed
to proceed.
F. Coffee Shop Project:
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Kristin Kelly looked into obtaining books for building codes and noted that
they are quite expensive and wondered if there were other
avenues to research them. Mr. Gertz reported that the City has
Building Code resources available and that he would help her
with the books or she could ask someone on staff to assist her if
needed. Commissioner Peterson-Benike offered Miss. Kelly her
help with the project and suggested starting by making some
fundamental decisions like developing operating hours so the
Staring Lake Outdoor Center could be reserved and the
formation of a plan.
Lori Peterson-Benike left the meeting at 8:55 p.m.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A.&B. Evaluations for Staring Lake Outdoor Center and Consolidated School:
Mr. Gertz noted the two Findings of Significance included in the packet for
the Commission to review. These two properties will be added to
the current CLG grant project once signed by the Chair of the
Commission.
Jan Mosman moved, seconded by James Wilson to accept the Findings of
Significance for the Consolidated School and Staring Lake
Outdoor Center properties.
C. Request from Pemtom Land Company for Street Names to be used at
Settler’s Ridge Development.
Mr. Gertz reported to the Commission that he had received a request from
Pemtom
Land Company for a list of street names to be used for the
Settler’s Ridge development. He shared with the Commission
that the two student representatives prepared a list, which was
forwarded to the developer last year. Evidentially the list had
been misplaced and they requested a copy.
D. Barney-Zylka Buildings Demolition:
Mr. Gertz reported that the City will be seeking demolition of the Barney-
Zylka buildings and asked if the Commission had input regarding
the proposition. Mr. Gertz informed the Commission that the
buildings are deteriorating and that the owners claim that there
is a Native American Burial mound on the property and that an
Euro-American female child is buried on the property as well.
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The Commission agreed that the graves need to be investigated
thoroughly. Commissioner Case also requested that some wood
from the barn be saved as it is originally from the Hennepin
Hotel.
Staff will keep the Commission informed of the progress of this project.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Having no other business to come before the Commission, James
Wilson moved, seconded by Jan Mosman, to adjourn the meeting at
9:01 p.m. Motion carried unanimously.