HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 07/19/2021 - Joint MeetingAPPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JULY 19, 2021 7:00 P.M.
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp;
Rod Fisher; George Maxwell; Steve
Schumacher; Robert Bowes
COMMISSION STAFF: Beth Novak-Krebs, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Vice Chair Ross called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. Commissioner and Chair Spera
was absent.
II. READING OF LAND ACKNOWLEDGEMENT STATEMENT
Maxwell read the land acknowledgement statement.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Fisher moved, seconded by Maxwell to approve the agenda, amended to
include Maxwell’s suggestion for history recognition under New Business. Motion
carried 6-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Maxwell moved, seconded by Schumacher to approve the minutes of the
June 21, 2021 meeting. Motion carried 6-0.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. PRESERVE MINNESOTA ANNUAL CONFERENCE AND NATIONAL
ALLIANCE OF PRESERVATION COMMISSIONS SHORT COURSE
(NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs explained the annual conference was online this year, September
14-17, and had been free last year; however, there was no information on this
year’s conference registration process or fees. She asked commission members
who wished to attend let her know, and she would continue to check registration.
Discussion followed on Thorp’s experience with the 2020 Zoom meeting.
Maxwell offered to attend, depending on the schedule.
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Novak-Krebs stated the National Alliance of Preservation Commissions was
August 24 and 25, online, and registration would open Wednesday. The fee was
$80.00 but staff could apply for a scholarship to send commission members.
Maxwell offered to attend this as well, and Thorp also volunteered.
B. DISCUSS RESCHEDULING OCTOBER MEETING (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs explained she would be absent during the scheduled meeting.
Discussion followed on an appropriate date. Ross suggested holding the meeting
before the joint meeting with the Historical Society on October 4, 2021 at the
Cummins Phipps Grill House. Novak-Krebs stated she would still be absent.
November 15 was another possibility. Novak-Krebs offered to work with Ross to
see if the October 4 date would work.
C. JOINT MEETING WITH EDEN PRAIRIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY
(NOVAK-KREBS)
This Item was discussed in Item VB.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. DISCUSS THE NOMINATION OF THE OLD DEPOT SITE AS A
HISTORIC PRESERVATION SITE (NOVAK-KREBS)
Novak-Krebs stated she sent an email to Three Rivers but had not heard back. She
also printed out the Yorkville-Bloomington Road report as a sample and stated
there was more than enough information to write a nomination. Discussion
followed on the process. Thorp stated the commission would need to secure
permission from Three Rivers before doing any work. Fisher asked for and
received confirmation this designation would not include the trail. Novak-Krebs
stated she would follow up with Three Rivers and Thorp offered to meet with
them if they were interested. Maxwell asked for and received confirmation the
designation site would include the old water tower.
B. DISCUSS MAPPING OF HISTORIC INVENTORY SITES
Novak-Krebs displayed a website, the EP City Map and showed how the records
displayed nationally and locally designated historic sites. Potential sites would
also be included on EP City Map. Maxwell asked if staff were seeking places to
add to the inventory list. Thorp stated the City hired a consultant in the 1980s to
generate the inventory, which was comprehensive. However, he had found many
homes that should be on the list but were not and needed to be added. The
Minnesota Historical Society had a four-page input form which was approved and
then sent to the State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO). There were also
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properties listed that had been torn down, and newer buildings that were coming
into eligibility. Discussion followed on the process of revising the inventory list.
Novak-Krebs displayed a hard copy of the form, the Minnesota Inventory
Property Form.
Novak-Krebs stated the commission had to think about whether or not the
inventory should be rolled out to the public. Perhaps on the heritage preservation
map site these properties could be listed by description but not by address. Thorp
replied landowners might still object. Schumacher suggested showing a pin on the
map as a general geographic area without giving the address. Maxwell asked if
the historical aerial photograph could be available on the website. Fisher asked if
the commission could ask landowners what was appropriate to include on the
map. Thorp replied all of this information was already public. Maxwell agreed the
landowners should be asked and suggested some landowners would welcome the
possibility of designation. Thorp stated this would at least be a good internal
resource.
Schumacher asked how the commission could get residents more interested in
local history of Eden Prairie. Thorp replied that was the Historical Society’s
mission. Novak-Krebs stated educating the public was one of the duties of the
commission, and often happened during in-person events. She asked if this
education was the goal of putting these properties on the map. Thorp stated for
this commission it was to show possible new preservation resources. Novak-
Krebs asked if the goal was to educate the homeowners whose homes might have
historical significance. Ross stated many homeowners were leery of designation,
fearing more regulation and intrusion. Maxwell suggested emphasizing the
difference between local and national designation. Fisher added the decision of
someone who refused would be respected by the commission. Maxwell suggested
tours of these properties and Schumacher suggested talks at the sites, or a bike trip
to different locations. Novak-Krebs replied there had been history tours in Eden
Prairie, and these could be resumed. Maxwell suggested having the student
representatives develop tours for other young people.
Novak-Krebs mentioned the oral histories, which were being transcribed and
offered online, would be added to the map. Ross stated there had been oral
histories taken throughout the years, but the Historical Society had at least 22 in
various stages of the transcription process. Even more people had been
interviewed in the second round. Many of the oral histories were ready to be
shown on the website. Novak-Krebs added Kathie Case was finding
accompanying photographs for these.
Maxwell offered to reach out to a colleague who could have immigrant oral
histories. Maxwell suggested having the ability on the map to toggle between the
1940 Aerial Map and today’s. He also suggested the actual records be made
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available on the website, and Ross and Novak-Krebs stated the current plan was
to include as much as possible.
Novak-Krebs offered to continue this discussion at future commission meetings.
She also offered to speak to the City Manager about sending letters to property
owners.
VII. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
Novak-Krebs stated she was working on the pre-application grant for the
Cummins Phipps Grill House roof which was due on Friday.
VIII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Ross stated the Cummins Phipps Grill House would be open for tours on July 31
1:00-3:00 p.m.
The Historical Society Annual Meeting would be held September 1, with Steve
Cobbs of the Eden Prairie Theatre giving a presentation. It would be held at Camp
Edenwood with appetizers and cash bar through the Lion’s Club, including
nonalcoholic drinks. No time was set as yet, but there would be a flyer coming
out.
Santa would probably be at the Cummins Phipps Grill House; he would decide in
next few weeks.
Museum had been open; it was now closed for remodeling.
IX. FYI ITEMS
Fisher stated there was a good article in Minn Post about the Mill City Museum
and the effort to preserve it amidst its structural problems.
X NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, August 16, 2021 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Heritage Room.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Fisher moved, seconded by Maxwell to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 8:21 p.m.