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FLYING CLOUD AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION
TUESDAY, JANUARY 14, 2021 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL RD
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chair: Bob Barker
Vice Chair: Daniel Dorson
Commissioners:
Keith Tschohl
Andy Kleinfehn
Kurt Schendel (Business Representative)
Blaine Peterson (Airport Manager)
STUDENT MEMBERS: Evelyn Hemler, Abshir Noor, Pranav
Kartha, Yash Salunke, Jake Dorson
COMMISSION STAFF: Scott Gerber, EP Fire Chief
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
MAC STAFF: Jennifer Lewis
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Barker called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Commission meeting was held in
hybrid model. All Commission members were present. Jake Dorson was present and it
was asked for staff to include him on the agenda in the future.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Dorson moved, seconded by Kleinfehn to approve the revised agenda with
the addition of the 2020 Operator of the Year Award in Item VII. Motion carried 5-0.
III. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Schendel moved, seconded by Kleinfehn to approve the minutes of the
October 8, 2020 meeting amended to change in Section VII B the weight limit from 60
pounds to 60,000 pounds and to correct the spelling of Brian Ryks’s name under Section
VII C. Motion carried 5-0.
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VII. STANDING DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. NOISE REPORT - MAC
Jennifer Lewis, Community Relations Coordinator for MAC, gave the quarterly
noise report for the fourth quarter of 2020. 37.6 percent of the traffic across MAC
reliever airport was associated with Flying Cloud Airport, and 88.8 percent of the
complaints were related to Flying Cloud activity. There were 6,215 complaints
filed from 35 locations. 1,015 of these were related to nighttime activity filed
from 22 locations. This represented a substantial increase in complaints, but the
number of locations remained fairly consistent compared to the same period in
2019. Most of the complaints in 2020, particularly in the fourth quarter, were
related to frequency and excessive noise and half of the complaints specified low
flights. January 2020 was the only month in the 2020 year that had a lower
number of complaints compared to 2019. In 2020 overall there was a 420 percent
increase in complaints over 2019.
The greatest increases were in the middle and the end of the year. Most occurred
during the late morning or early afternoon. 79 percent of nighttime complaints
occurred from 3:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. Overall there were 24,071 complaints in
2020 from 100 households, a 9 percent increase in households lodging complaints
over 2019. In general the number of households lodging a complaint stayed below
the 2019 levels for the first half of the year, until July, when they rose, and 54
new locations filed complaints.
The complaints were directly related to increased flight training and an increase in
the amount of time residents spent at home. Piston aircraft generated 74 percent of
the complaints in 2020, compared to 23 percent in 2019. Residents highlighted
repetitive flight training in their concerns when speaking to MAC staff.
There was actually a reduction in nighttime operations at Flying Cloud in 2020
compared to 2019, but an increase overall. Due to difference in metrics there
would be a difference in numbers in this report compared to Peterson’s report. A
deeper level of information was available on the online heat map.
Changes to outreach included visits to flight schools to talk about their flight
activity and the concerns expressed by the residents, speaking to residents about
why there was increased flight training, and holding two virtual meetings with
pilots to inform them about the noise abatement plan and noise reduction
courtesy. Gerber added this was part of the final agreement with MAC, and
feedback from both sides on the real impacts of noise was positive. Flying Cloud
was becoming more busy, even more busy than MSP for 63 days in 2020, and the
significance of this was realized by all parties. There was a mistaken perception
that no one was flying due to the Covid-19 coronavirus. Dorson added pilots had
thanked the commission for the information. Gerber agreed and stated this was a
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positive public relations opportunity. Kleinfehn added the tower controllers at
MSP were doing their part to intercept charter planes and direct flights from
residential areas.
Gerber asked how Flying Cloud compared to other airports during April-
December 2020. Lewis replied Flying Cloud had by far the largest percent
increase in complaints, but other airports also saw increases during this time
period.
B. 2020 OPERATOR OF THE YEAR AWARD
Peterson presented the award to Scott and Brenda Elhardt.
C. ORDINANCE 97 MONITORING – MAC
Peterson gave the update. The last quarter of 2020 saw three different aircraft
violate the Ordinance: two in October and one in November. None were repeat
offenders. Letters were sent to all three.
D. AIRPORT INCIDENTS AND OPERATIONAL UPDATES – MAC
Peterson reported that from October through December 2020 there were four
runway incursions, one pilot deviation, and two controller saves. He explained
there was a new tower supervisor, Anthony Walsh, who was identifying how
many times controllers identified planes lined up on the wrong runway. When a
tower controller made that identification and corrected the error, so the plane
landed on the correct runway, that was a “controller save.”
There were 125,610 operations at Flying Cloud in 2020. This was up substantially
from 2019 roughly (105,000). He offered to get the precise 2019 figure at the next
meeting. Comparatively there were 7,776 in operations in November 2019 and
9,647 in November 2020, representing a 24 percent increase, and 7,372 operations
in December 2019 versus 9,259 in December 2020, for another 24 percent
increase. He would report official percentages at the next meeting.
The Flying Cloud monthly newsletter was available to the public. Some sub-
tenants might not receive it and he asked everyone to contact him with contact
information of those who might not receive it in order to get the word out. Crystal
and Lake Elmo airports also had newsletters, and anyone interested could sign up
at the MAC website.
Construction in 2021 would be for the Delta-Echo-LED taxiway project, which
was supposed to have been completed two years ago but was pushed back due to
budget constraints. It would be completed in late August.
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On January 27, 2021 there would be a Lunch and Learn from noon to 1:00 p.m.
including Bob Barker, Anthony Walsh tower supervisor, Brian Ryks, Peterson,
Joe Harris, and Chad Lefke, Vice-President of Operations.
Gerber stated his department was updating its Fire and EMS response services for
the airport. He commended the help from Peterson for getting information to
firefighters and dispatchers.
D. PRIMARY RELIEVER AIRPORTS VISIONARY STUDY - MAC
Peterson stated this was on hold due to the lack of an airport planner at MAC. There
would be an ALP update in 2022, and this report would be a part of that. Barker
stated he asked Lewis about the status, who said Phase I was completed. Peterson
agreed, but added he could not give a timeline for Phase II or next steps, due to the
lack of a planner.
VIII. OLD BUSINESS
A. AIRPORT TOUR
This item was tabled.
IX. NEW BUSINESS
I. MAC FLIGHT TRACKER TUTORIAL
This item was tabled.
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP PRESENTATION
Barker announced the presentation would be given the following Tuesday.
He thanked Lewis, Peterson and Dorson for compiling the data for it.
Gerber would introduce Barker who would give the presentation. There
were three commissions scheduled to present. There was a limited
audience for this, but everyone was invited to attend online, and Gerber
would send that link to the commission members.
Dorson asked if City workshops were normally broadcast, and Gerber
replied they were not, but would be in this case. The hybrid model was
being used due to the Covid-19 coronavirus. Barker added this new model
with workshop presentations allowed the City Council to be more
interactive than in the Council Chambers.
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IX. UPCOMING EVENTS AND TOPICS FOR FUTURE FCAAC MEETINGS
Dorson asked Peterson if there would be a possibility of a walk-through of the
Flying Cloud development. For example, Hummingbird Aviation had new
construction. He also wished to see the Comprehensive Plan, a three-to-five-year
vision for the airport in addition to the visionary study. Peterson offered to recap
this in future meetings.
Kleinfehn asked if there could be an airport rough estimate of tax revenue
generated by the airport. Dorson replied that would be available from the City, but
he was not sure if there was a breakdown. Peterson replied he had done some
research, and the amount was significant. Barker added the airport also generated
jobs. He also asked for data on pending new tenants. Peterson stated in 2019
operations totaled 105,000.
Barker announced this was his last meeting as chair and thanked the commission.
Schendel stated this was also his last meeting. Gerber thanked them both.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
The next FCAAC meeting will be held on Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Heritage Rooms.
MOTION: Kleinfehn moved, seconded by Schendel to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:05 p.m.