HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 02/24/2020APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 2020 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-Vice Chair;
Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp;
Shanti Shah; Cheryl Kessler
COMMISSION STAFF: David Lindahl, Staff Liaison
Amanda Pellowski, Administrative Assistant
STUDENT MEMBERS: Maia Chavez; Ellyse Ferlauto; Lilly Hyland;
Aditya Nandhiyar
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Commission members Ross, Kalar,
Kessler and student representative Hyland were absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Spera to approve the agenda. Motion carried 4-
0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Shah moved, seconded by Thorp to approve the amended minutes from the
meeting on January 21, 2020, with one change to the first sentence of section 6B: remove
Wahlen and add Getschow. Motion carried 4-0.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. REVIEW CHAPTER 6 OF HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
TRAINING MANUAL (OLSON)
Olson stated that Kalar had previously asked if a Certificate of Appropriateness
(COA) should have been pursued for the work at the Cummins Phipps Grill
House. In response to that, the Commission is reviewing chapter six of the state
manual. The manual describes the authority the Commission has, when something
should be reviewed, and what steps are involved. Shah asked what prompted the
need to review the manual. Olson responded there should be a COA for Eden
Prairie properties that might be altered. For example, making sure the siding for
Glen Lake Children’s Camp was correct. The question being what the threshold
should be/what level of work would engage the review process. Maintenance
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work wouldn’t require a COA. Lindahl asked Olson if there were other examples
of when a COA was or wasn’t needed. Olson replied that the Cummins Phipps
Grill House clearly did not need a COA, but Glen Lake Children’s Camp did. The
one that was questionable, and perhaps should have had one but didn’t, was
adding the parking lot to the barn on Pioneer Trail. That that didn’t come before
the Commission for review.
Spera asked if the state manual had a glossary, as it would be helpful to have an
official definition for “alterations”. Thorp believed alterations means any exterior
change. Olson thought it referred to work such as adding a porch, whereas
“reconstruction” is changing a window. “Demolition” and “removing” are more
straightforward. Spera pointed out that when there isn’t a definition provided, the
basic definition from the dictionary likely applies. Olson stated, according to the
manual, routine maintenance such as painting, wallpaper, or plaster repair does
not require a COA.
Olson stated the manual also talks about design guidelines. He pointed out there
are City guidelines for new construction, but he isn’t aware of guidelines for old
construction. Thorp stated there was an architect hired for the roof replacement at
the Smith Douglas Moore House who helped determine specifications.
B. HENNEPIN VILLAGE BARN (LINDAHL)
Lindahl received a call from Ann Higgins that her homeowners’ association was
considering removing an old barn in Hennepin Village. The idea didn’t get much
traction at the homeowners’ association meeting but Higgins asked that the
Commission be made aware in case it comes up in the future. Lindahl did some
research and learned that the barn originally belonged to the Good family, which
has been in Eden Prairie for many years. Chester Good built it. He came to own
the property from the Peterson family through marriage. Recently, when the
developer of Hennepin Village was putting the project together he decided to keep
the barn to possibly use as a community center. Lindahl isn’t sure how it’s
currently being used. It feels like the homeowners’ association isn’t planning to
do anything with the barn, but perhaps would be good to update them on its
historical value. He thought that might be something Higgins or Kathie Case
could help with. Thorp agreed that education would be the best option and stated
the association would likely need a demolition permit before they could tear it
down.
C. OVERLOOK DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL (LINDAHL)
Lindahl stated the Overlook development, which is next to Hennepin Village on
Spring Road, was discussed at a Development Review Committee meeting.
There’s a barn and a few old structures on the Overlook property. Engineering has
photos of the structures, which will be torn down eventually, in case the
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Commission would like to review them. Not much is known about the barn or
property, except that it was used as a tree farm for many years. A significant
portion of the property will remain a conservation area.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. WATER RESERVOIR INTERPRETATIVE PANEL UPDATE
(THORP/LINDAHL)
Thorp asked if there’s a contract with Katie Qualley. Lindahl didn’t think there
was, but stated they can use a direct procurement process without having to get a
second quote. Rick Wahlen is ok with moving forward.
Thorp has given Qualley the photos. The committee is working on the text and
has some good resources. There are excerpts from “The First 100 Years” book
that will work well as long as they site the source. Once Qualley is back from
vacation they’ll have one more meeting and then move forward with a contract.
Lindahl stated the proposal should go directly to Rick Wahlen but asked if the
Commission will see it before its finalized. Thorp said the Commission will see it
before it’s finalized. Spera stated the committee did a lot of editing and had a lot
of input on past projects. She was surprised by the amount of information about
the depot and about Amy Smith. Thorp explained that Amy Smith was the train
station operator in charge of teletype and sending Morse code to the next station.
Shah suggested the panel emphasize that Amy Smith was a woman with many
talents. Thorp stated “The 100 Years” book does a good job of that.
Olson asked about the timeline. Lindahl responded the end of March would work,
but timing can be flexible. Thorp suggested reviewing the work at the
Commission’s meeting in April, since March would be too soon. Lindahl will
confirm with Wahlen, but thought April will be fine.
B. CUMMINS UPPER LEVEL RESTORATION UPDATE (THORP)
Thorp is planning to meet with a contractor to get a bid on plastering. He thinks
the Historical Society will be able to cover the cost. They’re considering leaving
one room untouched because there’s a demand for filming with that sort of
backdrop. Lindahl stated Rick Clark has a contractor he’d like to work with and
wants to meet with Thorp and Kathie Case in the next couple weeks.
Olson asked if there was interest in pursuing a CLG grant for the roof of the
Cummins Phipps Grill House, since they weren’t able to get the History Center to
fund it. The roof of the Smith Douglas Moore House was funded by a CLG grant.
Lindahl felt that if the Commission is confident the City can replace the roof in a
historically correct manner, it would be better to avoid involving the State as that
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adds additional layers. Although it’s an option they could pursue. Shah asked
when the roof was last replaced. Thorp thought it had been at least 20 years.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
VII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Thorp shared there was a commercial filmed at the Cummins Phipps Grill House
that raised $500. There will be a movie filmed there in 2021. That rental price
hasn’t been negotiated. He also stated the Gym Task Force and school staff have
been doing a lot of restoration work on the old school, such as painting the stage
area.
Thorp stated the Historical Society would like to schedule a joint meeting with the
Historic Preservation Commission in July or Aug at the Cummins Phipps Grill
House. Olson suggested doing the joint meeting in July. Thorp will confirm that
July 20th at 7 p.m. will work for the Historical Society.
Thorp listed the upcoming events for the Historical Society. Their annual meeting
is April 30 at the Cummins Phipps Grill House. Steve Cobbs will be the guest
speaker. His uncle started the drive-in theater in Eden Prairie. The Vintage Sale
will be May 8th and 9th, also at the Cummins Phipps Grill House. They’re
considering having a potluck dinner in June for members, as the peonies will be in
bloom. On March 2nd the Parks and Rec Commission is going to tour the museum
in City Center. Thorp, Higgins and Case will present at that. Case is speaking at
Prairie Bluffs School on March 3rd. Case and Thorp will discuss Native American
history at a PROP luncheon on April 22nd. Case will speak about the early history
of Eden Prairie Schools on May 6th for Community Ed.
Lindahl asked about the agenda for the joint meeting. Olson responded each
group usually gives an update on what they’re working on. If there’s business that
needs to be handled, the groups will separate to take care of that in different
rooms.
VIII. FYI ITEMS
IX NEXT MEETING
The next HPC meeting will be held on Monday, March 16, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. in the
Prairie Room.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Ferlauto moved, seconded by Chavez to adjourn. Motion carried 4-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:45 p.m.